would I notice improvement with this kit? - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

91R5 · 10-19-2009, 07:05 PM

I'm looking for some more braking power on but on a budget, because this is my daily driver car and I dont want to sink a ton of money into it. I feel after worrying if I would stop in time the other day an improvment to brakes would make it safer. This is the short stop rotor upgrade kit from Hawks. The price is good to me, Do you think I would notice any improvement over my stock set up? Or could I get the same results of this kit by just changing out the brake pads to higher performance ones. has anyone used this one?

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ca...wheeldisc.aspx

//<86TA>\\ · 10-19-2009, 07:19 PM

yes, but you will also notice an improvement with stock replacement rotors are a good set of hawks pads and new stainless flex lines.

rybread11 · 10-19-2009, 07:20 PM

In the rain yes, otherwise probly not

//<86TA>\\ · 10-19-2009, 07:49 PM

explaine that one

rybread11 · 10-20-2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\

explaine that one

I was reffering to his first question, where he asks if he would notice an improvemant over stock. In the rain, the slots will create a channel for the water to evacuate the surface of the rotor, keeping it from being compressed between the pads and rotor surface, which reduces stopping distances (among other things) in the rain. It is an ssbc kit, so the compound in the pads is generally better than "stock replacement pads" you can get over the counter at your local parts store, but that is the only factor that truly will improve the normal dry braking conditions. Since the rotors are not drilled to add a cooling affect, and these pads are not meant for the track where you need heat for the pads to reach their optimal performance level, the way heat will affect the braking of his car with this kit will be comparible to a stock set up. If his questions was will this package improve my stopping distance, I would say yes under all conditions, but will he REALY notice it? I say probly not. He may if he does some real hard breaking, but the only thing he is going off of is his perception, which we all know (or at least guys who are really into cars) is relative. And how many times will he slam on those breaks to test that. Maybe never now that he spent the money on them with a limited budget. Only if he has to. Since the caliper is staying the same, the rotor is not increasing in diameter, wheels are the same, and it looks like his car is pretty close to stock, I dont think he will notice it a whole lot. Of course with every part that is upgraded the effects will be compounded, and thats when I think he would really start being able to tell the difference.

91R5 · 10-20-2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rybread11

I was reffering to his first question, where he asks if he would notice an improvemant over stock. In the rain, the slots will create a channel for the water to evacuate the surface of the rotor, keeping it from being compressed between the pads and rotor surface, which reduces stopping distances (among other things) in the rain. It is an ssbc kit, so the compound in the pads is generally better than "stock replacement pads" you can get over the counter at your local parts store, but that is the only factor that truly will improve the normal dry braking conditions. Since the rotors are not drilled to add a cooling affect, and these pads are not meant for the track where you need heat for the pads to reach their optimal performance level, the way heat will affect the braking of his car with this kit will be comparible to a stock set up. If his questions was will this package improve my stopping distance, I would say yes under all conditions, but will he REALY notice it? I say probly not. He may if he does some real hard breaking, but the only thing he is going off of is his perception, which we all know (or at least guys who are really into cars) is relative. And how many times will he slam on those breaks to test that. Maybe never now that he spent the money on them with a limited budget. Only if he has to. Since the caliper is staying the same, the rotor is not increasing in diameter, wheels are the same, and it looks like his car is pretty close to stock, I dont think he will notice it a whole lot. Of course with every part that is upgraded the effects will be compounded, and thats when I think he would really start being able to tell the difference.

good information there. yeah my car is stock. Since the rotor diamiter remains the same as stock I think I am going to go with the hawks pad's and some stainless brake lines. its a little cheaper that the kit

racing geek · 11-03-2009, 02:45 AM

In my opinion, as long as your current rotors aren't warped or have hot spots on them, keep using the stock rotor and just get new pads. Unless you drive the car hard or race it regularly, I don't see much point in spending the extra money for slotted rotors. The best bang for your buck will come from a brake pad improvement. I've had good experience with the Hawk HPS pads on the back of my car and the HP+ on the front, but I also autocross my car a lot so the HP+ are definitely over kill for you.

Mike