WhiteKnightZ28

A clean 1991 white Z28 with a 305 TPI/T-5 is for sale in NW Ohio and is looking for a buyer ASAP. The car is in very good condition with only 87,000 on the odometer. It has the original 5 speed transmission and 5.0 engine that have been problem free. Some new parts include tires, starter, shocks, 02 sensor and ignition module. I want to sell the car in the next month or so. I am starting the bidding at $3995 OBO. My email is matt.malanga@gmail.com for more questions, pictures or hopefully an offer.

HeadInTheClouds

Shouldnt this car have a hood with blisters? Nice car though. Does this car need anything? Any rust? How is the paint?

Slick71ss

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BlueZee28

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I'm going to assume it was in an accident which is why the head light buckets are body color and the hood is not the original one?

WhiteKnightZ28

Yes that is correct the nose and hood are not the original. Not all 91's have the headlight buckets painted black so that is why I decided to go with the body color.

VERTIGO Z28

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The Z's did. RS's didnt. How extensive was the damage to the front sub structure?

WhiteKnightZ28

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Cam-aro

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Does the car have a clear title?

WhiteKnightZ28

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Kandied91z

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i have 2k sight unseen if it will make a 1 hour freeway trip and has a tpi in it. it's too bad you don't have the original hood for it. that would really have helped it. pictures of the underside would also generate alot more money. if you can get better pictures of the interior, engine bay and underside then it's worth more to me.

WhiteKnightZ28

I have sent you more pictures via email. What are you trying to say in the beginning of your message?

tpi-hearse

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wow..nice deal tpi..5-speed...looks good....too far for me to buy,but goodluck with the sale...should be an easy sale for that price...

WhiteKnightZ28

Yeah that's what I would think but it seems that everyone gets caught up that the hood is not the original. Its great car with low miles that I really want to sell ASAP!
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How far from NW ohio (toledo area) are you?

tpi-hearse

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I am in Connecticut....you should ebay that car with the milage and being a 1991 with the tpi-5-speed combo...should sell easy...I sold my 1991 z-28 350\auto with 123,000 miles for $3500.....
Most people get caught up with the car being in an accident...but most don't realize that most of these cars have been fixed at one time or another and if a "pro" fixed it you woun't be able to tell

WhiteKnightZ28

Thanks for the tip, I was going to ebay the car as a last resort but I think I will definately do it very soon. The car was fixed by a professional frame shop with all the fancy alignment laser tools so it was done right. Thanks for the encouragement. Cheers.

Bull

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I agree with tpi-hearse.

As a car guy who owns cars from the '60's throguh the '90s, I just kind of assume the possibility that some of the cars I own have had some kind of bodywork done to them because of damage. After decades of use, that's a reasonable assumption. If the car looks good and drives staright, then the work must have been ok and I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

Best of luck...eBay does tend to bring higher prices. Too bad you can't get it into the hands of a fellow thirdgen member...the price is appealing and the car looks clean.

watajob

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If that thing had t tops, it'd be gone! Damn!

Bull

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I'd take the lack of t-tops as a plus! Sure, they are cool, but cars with hardtops will have fewer squeaks, leaks, and be generally more tight.

Besides, how often do you actually use t-tops? I maybe have mine out 5-10 times all summer.

Kandied91z

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to replace that hood it isn't even possible from gm. $1,200 factory original pieces. 4-500 if your lucky to find it all in good shape on ebay and then you still have to paint it. the repaint and touch ups, fact it's been hit and missing original pieces all hurts the price in the long run but this is all things that everyone knows. if you want a higher dollar you need original unmared parts.

it's a buyers market right now unfortunately..

tpi-hearse

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higher dollar .....he only wants $3995?....that is cheap...as for the hood you can find good used factory ones almost anywhere...In fact I have one...I could see If he wanted $15k or something but less than 4k!!!...

Bull

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For a show car or high-dollar rare collectible, then yes, the above is true. But for a clean thirdgen driver, who cares if the car is all original or if it was tapped? Again, if it's clean, rust free, was fixed properly, and runs well, a 305 TPI Z is worth the less than $4k he is asking.

GOY

If you lower the price let me know. $4k for a 16+ year old car is a bit much when LT1 cars can be had for less, almost 1/2 in some cases. I'm only interested in the 5 speed.

For those concerned about the hood - it's the perfect excuse to get that cowl you always wanted, lol.

Bull

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No offense intended, but why do you use that argument? Yes, 4th gen cars can be had in that same range (I should know, I bought one) but that doesn't mean that thirdgens cannot or should not command that same amount of money. If a thirdgen is clean and well-optioned, then it is irrelevant what other cars go for, the price should be evaluated based on the value of the car itself. It's like asking why you should pay big money for a nice 2nd gen when 3rd gens are so much cheaper...you buy the car you like based on its looks, performance, and desirability. If you want a 4th gen, buy one, but don't expect thirdgens to be given away because they are older.

Heck, this is an exclusively thirdgen site, why would anyone on here bash the value of these cars compared to 4th gens?

Again, if you could hear me speaking, you would see that I am merely asking questions, not trying to ruffle feathers.

pearl_iroc

y is it that theres so many cheap skates on this web site? the dude posts a pretty decent car and then people assume that becasue it got a few unoriginal parts it not worth the gas u put in it or becasue 4 gens can be had for the same as these cars? these cars are becoming harder to find in decent condition at least here in toronto no wonder they woukd demand a lil more doe than some forth gens

Cam-aro

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This is a nice car, and I would love to have it(if it had T-Tops, haha). It's an excellent price, especially for a car with a rarer package like this one(Z28 5speed). The car looks good, the body has been taken care of and it's back to near 100%... if he listed it at that price and never mentioned a word about the accident, I bet the car would'a sold 2 days after listing.

FASTERTHANUMARK

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Email sent

Kandied91z

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you clearly missed the point...

tpi-hearse

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what was the point then...we are talking about a car priced @$3995

Bull

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Let's see...guy is selling a nice car for low money and people are whining about it. Nope, got it.

fastfbody

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not to hijack your thread . but why didnt you post that the car had been wreacked. that right there will hert your sale people will say your being shaddy.well any good luck with your sale

blown69nova

Still for sale? E-mail some pics of interior, under hood and as much of the front end as you can.
sandatezak@tds.net
Thanks, Steve

black84z28-4spd

i am interested in the car as well...wanna email me some pics?.....in about two weeks i can have 3500 cash in hand for you in the pis of the car are what i am looking for...what i am looking for is a decent shape car i can use as a DD....thanks!

i can send you a 2000 dollar money order right away if you can let it go for that price and in two or 3 weeks hand you the rest...

GOY

Okay, I'm sorry....

Replace every rubber seal, gasket, and bushing in the car and I'll pull $4k from my account right now. Otherwise, all of those are still 16 years old. Does that make you happier Bull? A 16 year old plain jane fbody does not command $4k unless there is something special about it. A blower, a new engine with great heads & intake, a totally new suspension from ground up, SOMETHING! A starter, shocks, and tires isn't exactly special.

I love these cars, I've owned 7 of them. I've owned them with as few as just over 12k miles, up above 200k miles. I've owned a lowly LG4 car, as well as multiple L98 cars. I've had more intakes then most guys have had spark plugs. I have the Training (IE Working on these cars consistantly) and Experience (IE Previous ownership) to be well aware of what the car is worth. With bushings, seals, and gaskets getting that old, there is the likelyhood of leaks, squeeks (more than normal anyways), comprimised performance, and multiple other related problems. I'm not trying to bash down the value of 3rd gens, but *I AM GOING TO BE REALISTIC.*

There would be no problem in saying the car was worth $4k, had it's condition been preserved through regular fluid exposure for the engine seals, and replacement of the various steering and suspension bushings, but at 16yo and 87k miles, I would almost promise to find more than one cracked and aged seal in that engine.

No matter what your "Ironic" image of the 3rd gen is, money is money son, and a fool and his money are soon seperated. If someone is willing to pay $4k, awesome....

...my post was that I'm not and to let me know if the price was lowered, then compared it to a newer car's value. WHAT IS YOUR INVOLVEMENT OR INTEREST IN THAT? Are you selling the car Bull? Does the amount I am willing to pay for it reflect on you in any way? Would you be so offended if I said I wasn't willing to pay the same for an 82Z that I would for a 92Z? If not, then back out and off my ***. I haven't seen you offer to pony up $4k for it..... Put your money where your illogical mouth is.... And by that.. I mean Seperate yourself from your money.....

(Look above)

Bull

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Goy, you wrote a lot but said little. Don't bother trying to get into some battle of wits with me.

I'll be happy when guys selling thirdgens on here don't have to deal with people coming into their threads and telling them what their cars are worth. If he lowered the price, then I'm sure he'd update the thread and you'd know about it, no need to enter the thread to tell him that he's asking too much and if that changes get in touch with you. My purpose in the thread is to assure the seller that his price is not out of line, despite those that contend that less than $4k is too much for a clean lower miles stock five-speed TPI thirdgen

If you found a solid, clean low miles '69 GTO in a barn somewhere, would you beat up the owner on price because the seals were old? Nope, you'd want the car because it was desireable. And on a thirdgen site, people should want these cars because they are desireable, not because they can be had cheaply or cheaper when compared to a 4th gen.

I can gracefully bow out of the thread now because I have made my point: the car is worth the price if its condition is as stated, period.

The seller should ask that the thread be cleaned up or closed if he feels that any of the posts are detrimental to his ability to sell, which is not fair to him.

black84z28-4spd

well...the car is mine now so there wont be any bother on it

i paid 4200 for my 84 because its a rare find to see a wisconsin car in awesome shape with solid floor pans...that was 3 years ago...it would fetch way more now probably....sorry man...these cars are going up in value...look at all the sites they sell on....autotrader had a low mile 1le for 40k...

pearl_iroc

the value is definetly goin up, there are to many huslters here on tgo that like to tell u wut ur car is worth and brag that they owned 20 million third gens and there for they know the value of ur car

WhiteKnightZ28

Thanks everyone for the entertaining discussion, I appreciate the honestly and the true third gen lovers who will defend a good car when they see one. I have learned a lot from the posts. The car has been sold to the right person.

Bull

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Great news! Congrats to buyer and seller.

GOY

Just let me know when you have that 69 GTO Bull.... Because, they are just like the third gen's, or so your arguement would have.

Bull

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Sure, here's the one I've had since '94, currently parked out in my barn:



Can't sell it to ya, though...seals are a few years old now.

pearl_iroc

lol

black84z28-4spd

this is the 84 i paid 4200 for...and i'd do it again...i would put this car's shape against alot of cars on this site...its one of the cleanest i have seen and it remains that clean....just because a car is a few years old and has a few bad seals so what?... ...a car is only worth what you'd pay for it pretty much...if you dont think it was worth what he was asking then move on and stop making yourself look like a ***...


matt....check your mail the next few days