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Old 11-23-2008, 08:53 PM   #1
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Scam Alert

Just wanted to let everyone know there is a craigslist scammer "selling" Thirdgens right now. These same craigslist ads are all over the country right now. I am looking for another thirdgen right now so i replied to 2 different cars and received the same email minus the name change. It really pisses me off because he is posing as a military member and as one myself, it is personally insulting. Here is one of his emails. I sent one backAsking for his name rank and unit, and he replied with a name and rank but when I asked him again for his unit and for him to email me from his .mil email addy he stopped responding.

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Hello,

The car (1984 Chevrolet Camaro Z28) is in absolutely perfect condition, no scratches,dings, dents or other imperfections. Never accidented, Always garaged. Clear title, no liens or leans. I will accept $3,600 if you buy it now. It has only 79,721 miles and Transmission Automatic.

Firstly, I need to tell you that i am located in Helena, MT. I sell the car urgently because my platoon has been sent back to Iraq and don't want it to get old in my garage.I will take care of all transport arrangements.Usually shipment takes maximum 2 to 3 days depending on your location and will be fully insured against damages, shipped in a crated container.....on my cost!!I am a member of the e-Bay buyer protection program and using this service you will get a 15 days testing period after delivery. During that 15 days testing period I will not be getting any money.If you agree with my above terms, I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon as possible.I have reserved the car for you until I will have your final answer.

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Old 11-23-2008, 09:17 PM   #2
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Re: Scam Alert

I have seen a similar response on a white IROC in the Washington DC area. Very strange.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:32 PM   #3
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Yeah I saw that add, it is the same 87 white iroc He responded to me about, same pics and all.
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Old 11-24-2008, 12:03 AM   #4
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Re: Scam Alert

Just by reading that email I'd say it's one of those nigerian scamming pos's. Poorly worded, missing words. etc.
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Old 11-24-2008, 12:07 AM   #5
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Re: Scam Alert

he is doing it on more then thirdgens. I got the same email. Ident. about a 1995 6 spd Z28 in the Atlanta area.
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Old 11-24-2008, 12:33 AM   #6
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Re: Scam Alert

I figured everyone knew about these scams so I wasn't going to post anyhting but a freind of mine said he had never heard of such a scam so I decided to get the word out just in case.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:24 AM   #7
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Re: Scam Alert

just goes to show why you should do everything in person. and is it me or does 3rd gen scams seem to be picking up in numbers?
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:04 AM   #8
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Re: Scam Alert

Here's the email I received from micke.rot@googlemail.com

Hello Rob,
My name is Sgt. Michael R .This "1987 Chevrolet Camaro Iroc-Z" is in perfect working condition.This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty.This detailed vehicle makes the exterior look like it just came off the assembly line.The car has only 89,200 miles.

Transmission:Automatic

Features & Options:
Body type: Coupe, Engine: 8 Cylinder, Exterior color: White, Fuel type: Gasoline, Interior color: Gray,
CD player, Anti-lock brakes, Air conditioning, Cruise control Power locks, Power windows Power seats

So if you decide on buying the car, I want the deal closed only through eBay's Express
Purchase Protection program. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it, eBay will
release the payment to me, in this way we are both protected.
I signed up for US military forces and I was sent here with my department in Iraq.
I am located in Iraq,but the car is in United States in Wisconsin.
My final price on it is US $1,800. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping .It will be shipped from Wisconsin by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address (street,city,zip,state) where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all
the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
I am sorry but we don't have acces with phones here.ONLY laptops.But we can communicate by mail.I hope this is not a problem.
Thanks for understanding
P.S. If you need pics just ask!!!



buyer beware!
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Old 11-24-2008, 10:23 AM   #9
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does ebay really hold the money till the product has been delievered? i know bout paypals deal...but ebay?
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:04 AM   #10
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Funny thing is. I am currently in Iraq. I've not seen a fob without a phone center yet. Also have never heard of US Air Military Cargo. Guy is a complete tool.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:22 AM   #11
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lol ya that sounds lik the american gov, we just love sending useful things into outer space
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:58 AM   #12
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Re: Scam Alert

Those ads REEK of Nigerian scammer.

Too bad they have gotten "smart" & are preying on people, by posing as our military.

And yeah....Phones are everywhere for the military. To say this guy is full of shite, is giving him too much credit.
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:04 PM   #13
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Re: Scam Alert

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Funny thing is. I am currently in Iraq. I've not seen a fob without a phone center yet. Also have never heard of US Air Military Cargo. Guy is a complete tool.
There is Military Air Cargo, but it is for.....Military Cargo. It would be awfully hard to get a camaro through the JI Inspection and on a C-17, KC-135, etc without any one noticing, they look a little different the Humvees and bobtails
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:09 PM   #14
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..... they look a little different the Humvees and bobtails
That's what camo paint is for, right? Nobody will even notice it is on the truck!
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:32 AM   #15
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Re: Scam Alert

About the truck ? It has a clean title, I'm the first owner, it doesn't have any scratches, dents, it never been involved in an accident or in a flood.
It has only 133,217 miles so the truck it's like new. Right now I'm living in Holliston, Massachusetts. If are you wondering how the shipping will be made, i have to tell you,
that for the shipping i have an discount at Das Door company. So we don't have to pay anything for the shipping. I am selling this truck so cheap (only 4500$)
because I need money very quick to pay my college fees. If you are a serious buyer please contact me as quick as possible. Thank you very much.
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there's a add for cpke a cola on the bottom lol so many scammers on c-list
Hello,
This 2001 Chevrolet Silverado 1500, runs and drives excellent. Its unbelievably clean and excellent condition. The price that I hope to obtain is 3500$ with shipping and handling included. I am selling the truck because I had received a very good job offer in my home state and I have no use for it anymore plus I had received a car from work. The price is low because I need to sell it before Oct 30th.
You will not have any problems with registration since the vehicle is still registered in Nebraska and meets all environmental regulations in the US, there is no need to pay any additional taxes, just only the price for it. You will get from me the manuals, keys along with all the additional documents needed for registration. I want to take the opportunity to assure you that this deal is 100% legitimate, the financial part of this deal will be managed by the eBay's buyer protection program (they are acting like a third party in our deal). Which means that you will have a 15 days inspection period before buying the vehicle. If you want to complete the purchase please send me your: Full Name and Shipping Address and I will notify eBay that you are selected as my buyer and they will contact you to explain the entire procedure.
Please email me ASAP if you want to move forward and let me know if you need anything else.
The photos of the car: http://s403.photobucket.com/albums/p...view=slideshow


All the best!
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Old 11-25-2008, 04:06 PM   #16
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Re: Scam Alert

this reminds me of when i was going to purchase my 1st car. i saved for a 3rd gen and found one relatively close. it was a red 89 iroc with a 350. bought it on ebay, the guy wanted a deposit, we said no since he didnt have paypal, he wanted us to western union it to him. so we told him that we could pick it up the next day. we drove to the address and found it to be a church...called the guy and he said he'd be there in a few. called about 5min later and he said "actually i sold it". so that little incident made me rather mad.

a couple weeks later we bid on another iroc, an 86 with a 305. we won the bid but didnt meet his reserve bid. i guess it was close enough though because he offered it to us at just over the bid we had in. so thats how i ended up at my camaro actually. im 17 and lovin it lol. but i still wish i had that 350...
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Old 11-25-2008, 04:47 PM   #17
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Another one to watch for is if you sell a car they'll buy it from you and send you a cashiers check for more then the amount and ask you to ship the car and give the extra back. Works fine for you until the bank realizes a week later that the check is fake. Friend of mine got screwed like that a little over a year ago.
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Old 11-26-2008, 10:13 PM   #18
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Ebay only does their services with Ebay customers and products. Ebay does not have special services for the general public. They do not have special services for any reason besides Ebay.com. There are scammers out there that try to say Ebay will hold certain amounts of money until the vehicle is delivered and that Ebay can guarantee your money is safe. The vehicle will not be delivered and the money that you sent through moneygram is gone. All I have to do to trip them up is ask if the car is numbers matching, what the tire width, height, rim size, what type of transmission (I.E. 700r4 4l60e) it is, and what type of engine (5.7 l98, 6.0 ls2) it is. For the camaro enthusiast: it is very easy for us to be able to trick these people up because they do not know the specifics about cars. I ask about prom. I have never heard a scammer know what the hell that is. They give very vague answers. If the owner says she is a lady and does not know much about the car, look at the pictures. I am not sexist or anything, but most ladies do not know how to take really good pictures of multiple car angle shots including hood up, an trunk area open. Always ask for a phone number and say you will pick up the car. If they say they cannot talk on the phone because they are too busy, that's bs. Then they will say they will deliver the car for free. Insist on you coming to get the car with cash in hand. After that they always stop sending emails. Craigslist.com has a link on its site to show what scammers new methods are. This is how I found out. Almost the hard way. Be safe.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:18 AM   #19
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Re: Scam Alert

I think this message has done good and can now be closed. As buyers, really, we all should be weary of scams.

I'm going to lock it up now. PM me if you have any questions as to why.

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