Did the damage effect anything other than the fender?

Yeah, like I said before the door sags now. It didnt at first, but what happened was that the fender was hitting the door and I guess after opening and closing it a few times.. When they took it to jack carter for an estimate, they said the door needed to be rehung.

Hell, I'd just replace it though. It's rusting on the underside anyway.

Yea, a decent door at the wreckers is about $70 I think. New hinges (the high class ones)are $150 I think.

That car had the sexiest exhaust note (with the possible exception of creepingdeaths mu||et exhaust, hahah). Does your car still have the electric exhaust cutout?
If I had any room at my new house i'd pounce on that.

Yeah, cutout included.

Damnit man, you're killing me!

Haha I'm killing myself here, too. If only it was out here in BC, I would totally buy it. Heck, even if I could just buy it and finally run it into the ground, that would be ok too.

A couple months ago one came up for sale out here, for a grand, and it was a white lg4/700r4 86 trans am with the red interior just like mine, and it had a rough idle and a few other things. I wanted it badly.



But, upwards and onwards. I'm deep into the 240 community out here now. I expect to be in the 13's with my little ka turbo this season. Should be fun.

I love both domestics and imports, theyre both such diffrent driving experiences . Hey jay if I recall correctly you liked my mu11et exhuast! personally I hate it, If im in my car longer than an hour I seriously lose hearing in my left ear especialy if the window is down. I thought it was cool when i first had it, setting off car alarms and such but i hate it now haha. So that must be the car in your cardomain then right? if it is I'm taking it without a doubt, hopefully your mom calls me soon I want that thing haha, That willl be my 5th 3rd gen and second trans am if i get it.

oh yea, that's why I said one of the sexiest exhaust notes.
I'll be putting on a dynomax ultra flow welded when I get my header collectors re-welded on.
Damn Kris, you've got too much money and parking space

If you buy it and it's running funny, bring it by my place. He was saying the carb was giving them some issues before, and i've tweaked that one once already.
It's a q-jet that can still be saved!

Ya if it ends up in my hands I'll be keeping the Q-jet until i build this 350 (Can't find a descently priced engine stand), I love not having any bills to pay plus i just did 3 years of taxes When I go there to check it out or pick it up or whatever maybe ill swing out to your place I still got those q jets sitting in my shop. I also got a stock spread bore intake manifold and some other crap... My yellow camaro will be getting parted out or sold for a couple hundred I can't stand it anymore plus I'm gone to quebec for 4 months right away

Yeah that's the one in my cardomain. I forgot all about that page..

Here's a file clip of the 240's exhaust. I like it more. Heh.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ihb5M_0epvA


Anyway Creepingdeath you seem like a nice enough guy and more importantly, I get the impression that car would be in good hands if it went to you. I'll tell my mom to call you first. Which will probably be tuesday or wednesday. My only request to my parents was that they take some of the stereo out so that I can use it in the 240, so it will come with a stock stereo on the passenger seat, crappy front speakers and very nice wiring to all speakers + amplifiers in the trunk.

Oh, and rockford tweeters.

Thanks alot, I dont mind what stereo goes with it i have a full JL gold system anyways Is your 240 domestic or JDM? imports are booming right now i never see any muscle cars anymore, even old dudes are driving jdm's haha. I like pulling up to all my friends in their imports with a loud *** engine that shakes the ground also i think most of their cars look like family cars or something and dont look like they were designed as sports cars haha, like look at the old skylines and soarers, lancers, impreza. also I can't beleive what some guys are paying for parts on imports, for example like $1300 for intake manifolds .

Exactly!!! Super overpriced parts, and family sedans? Not for me thanks.
I was working on a subaru the other day. The serpentine drive pulley was $250! Just a stock part! I can get an entire chromed set of underdrive pulleys for that cost for my SBC!
Imports seem to think that we WANT to sit on super hard formed type of seats. Uck. All the ergonomic interior parts of import cars just plain piss me off. Everything is WRONG for me.

My 240 is left hand drive. It came with a smaller turbocharged engine in japan and everyone loves those things, but I like displacement. So I kept the stock 2.4l and threw a turbo on it. When I have the money and the time and the space (ie when I move back to calgary next year) I'm swapping that motor out for an LS1. Just imagine, ls1 + heads/cam/intake/headers/dumps in a 2700 lb car.

And hey, import and domestic, I 'swing both ways'. :P

i guess i should throw out a "hey there"

lurking for some time, lots of great info on this board, already have recieved some great info

big thanks Sonix!

gonna try and get out to the meet sunday at southcenter, to view...the forecast is for more of the same rain - ugh!

does anyone know if it's maybe being re-scheduled

cheers!

It is canceled We will have an alternate date soon.

ya, i kinda figured the rain would do that, someone might want to update p-shop thread, so guys there know

in case anyone here has? i'm looking for a couple of items, a good HEI, a nice or rebuilt Q-jet, and a speadbore intake for vortec head 350

PS
that turbo'd 240 sounds like its coming along nice, good work!

cheers
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subarus, ugh! a fellow i work with has had 2 new STi, over the past 3 years, and each of them had into service under warranty, almost more than he actually drove them
lets just say that the final straw, was when the last time around, the service manager tried to tell him they had a $ limit on warranty work, and he'd have to pay from then out
i swear he was actually going to park the thing through the showroom window, after setting it on fire - LOL

Hey Whiley, you weird weird guy, here are scenarios i've run through.

1-> "flat tops". If you just go out and buy speed pro flat tops with 5cc valve reliefs. They have a 1.54" compression height, which adds .020" to their deck height. Stock pistons are about .025", so that's what makes it .045" deck height. Since you don't want to deck the block, and I highly doubt the deck is flat enough to hold a shim gasket, so I used a normal composition one, .041" thickness. That gives a whopping 8.8:1, with a terribly ~.080" quench. Yuck.

2-> "zero deck". Exactly as above, except you zero deck the block. That'll give a 9.7:1 CR, and perfect quench. With Calgary's 4000' density altitude, good quench, and vortec chambers, this is about as ideal as it gets. Speed pro H345NP pistons are what i'd recommend. $11 each on summit. Or summits house brand http://store.summitracing.com/partde...0&autoview=sku
Decking the block isn't as big of a deal as it sounds, Rod charged me $120 for that.

ah, i entered the piston cc as a negative number @ -5cc

i also didnt include that the heads will be getting decked straight, so factoring in that, the volume will likely return to 64-66cc, so lets change that too

i found the gasket bore on the v-r vortec 350 is 4.10", so added that in

that gives 9.25 compression, still better than the stock 7.8

still, the GM crate engine made 370hp, on 9.0:1, with the xe268 & 750 double-pump holley

i won't find out till i take the block in for hot tanking & checked that i'll know what it'll need, maybe zero decked? dunno

but the less machine work i have to do the better

the cars gonna get a crate engine in a couple of years, so if i can just re-ring/re-bearing it for now

Hey hey, I think I might be able to hit two birds with one stone here.
creepingdeath - do you still have a few extra q-jets laying around? I'm coming through on a business trip tomorrow morning (10-11am) and back through on friday 3-5pm range. Still got the carbs you want to get rid of?
Then the second bird here, whiley, you still want a rebuildable q-jet?

LOL - ya, i PMd him a few days ago
if he's willing to part with them, i'll be round with that promised crown
maybe this weekend?
lmk

I should be able to check my email from the hotel, if I don't hear back from him i'll give him a call when i'm driving back through his neck of the woods.

Yea, I should be around this weekend. I'll probably be scrambling to get my engine in. You up for some engine tossing whiley? I can show you how to rebuild a q-jet too.

-J

for sure, just LMK about the carbs guys, i PMd you back (creepingdeath) on those, PYP is probably a mud bath right now - LOL
sonix, ya i offered to help with the engine, so just PM or call me to LMK
i do have a job/work on the weekend, but if you let me when (sat or sun) i can schedule it for the opposite day
even if we don't have time & do the carb rebuild thing on a different weekend/day, thats fine too

I gave Kris a call on my way back yesterday, and he wasn't at home.

whiley, let me know what day this weekend works for you. I can throw the engine in either day.
Thanks

no worries, hopefully he'll PM me back

i guess it'll have to be sunday for me, you got my number still (i dont have yours) give me a call

Sure thing whiley, sunday works well for me.
i'm 988-3440. I'll call you on sunday some time around 10 or so and give you directions. Should be an easy job here.
Wanna stick around for a BBQ

so did you get the rest of it together and running?
sorry couldnt stay for bbq, as it turned out, the gf had been working hard on a nice meal, so good thing i didnt screw that up - LOL

Hey, thanks a bunch for your help there whiley, I really appreciate it.
Yea, we had enough food for a small army, good god.

No, I haven't had a chance to go back out to the garage yet. It's my roommates birthday today, so i'm probably not going to be able to get much done until later in the week, or the weekend. boy it's frustrating having to sneak a few minutes here, few minutes there. Really piecemeal alright...

no problem i've sent creepingdeath a PM about the carbs, so likely will hear when he's back, and i'm still pondering cams so i'll let you know once i'm closer on that
gotta take care of trans $ first

LOL - sounds like a hella b-day party, if its going to take you a whole week to sober up

Sorry guys I'm actually in quebec now for the next 4 months, but i can get someone to give them to you whenever you need.

LOL
dang, from the sounds of your last PM, i didnt realize you were leaving already
ya, if something is possible there, let me know
send me a reply on the PM, and let me know what we can do
thanks

hey there

new to this board

i'm up in the north east of calgary

my ride is an 88 iroc z28 white, I bought it off a lady last fall who owned it for the last 12 years, she seemed to take good care of it.

its coming out of the paint shop in a few days.

see if i can catch you guys around

Hey Dude Rjay (?). What's in the IROC? Engine wise? Any plans for it this summer?

Hey whiley, you remember if we nicked the steering gear with the engine while lowering it down? I just realized most of the splines are smushed on it, so i'm looking at ordering a new one. I just can't figure out how it could have happened?

its got a 305 tbi, I'd like to up it up to a crate 350 and keep it tbi

but for now i want to redo the suspension first and foremost not theres any problem but I want to have a good solid suspension before i start pushing more horse power.

Besides the engine is in awsome shape oil stays clean doesnt burn a drop. I had to do a intake manifold gasket on it and it was real clean inside.

Anyways looking up some suspension parts, not into dragging or lowering the car. I'd like stock new a arms lower trailing arms springs, new bushing etc etc the whole nine yards

any ideas????

I've done the suspension on mine. How much you plan on spending?

A-arms are pretty standard, not much to gain from replacing them ($450++).
I have poly bushings for them (haven't installed yet though).

Rear LCA's I boxed, and put in poly bushings. If you want them, $20 or so and they're yours... I replaced them with home made ones. From lefthander chassis (hex tube), rod ends, and rubber ends.

I used KYB gas-a-just in the rears, and GR2's in the front. Moog 5664 springs in the front, cc635 in the rear. Stiff stock style ones. Then poly bushings for the sway bars, tranny mount, etc. Oh, boxed and poly on the panhard as well (and a poly TA mount).

The car is ROCK SOLID. oh, and of course sub frame connectors. It rides like a race car. I'd highly recommend the mods I did.

sh-it!
do you mean at the steering box? cause i know you had the intermediate piece (from firewall to steering box) already out of the car
we were watching the brakes lines & being extra careful before setting it down
even still, how could the spines around a circle shaft get squished, if we're working from only one side of it? and the steering box itself is off to the side??
dang, still, sorry to hear that

sonix how much am i willing to spend hmmmmmm lets put it this way I work in the gas patch, power generation and marine industry on engines 1800 hp to 4400 hp. across canada and have been doing it a quite a while so yeah I can afford it.

I work out of a shop out in Cochrane and I can go in there when ever I want to work on my vehicles. So right there I have acess to welding, bead blast, overhead crane, shop air a lathe tons of tools 3/4 impact guns etc. Oh yeah I also have my service truck which is kind of like a mobil toolbox/workshop. So working on the car is not on issue

I was thinking tubular front a arms, stock hieght moog springs (stiffer tho) boxed rear lca. shocks i dunnno yet i'd like to keep them simple, torque arm, etc. and other stuff I'd like to order it in one shot. I got some catalogs from mopaac but its all drag racing stuff it seems.

how much you figure it would cost to do up the suspension?

duderjay:

I just got Eibach Pro kit (1" drop)
Sphon Chrome Moly panhard rod bar
Hot Parts lower rear control arms w/ relocation brackets.

Car handles much better now--looks better and have not scraped at all.

Also you really want to upgrade the brakes. Your car has the 10.5"X1" single pistion caliper brakes on the front. They are a joke.

I got Ed Miller to send me his front disc LS1 conversion kit. They are 12"X1.25 w/ dual pistion calpiers

Maybe you should upgrade to 16" IROC wheels too. I used to have a TBI IROC so I know all about them.

It will run 17.0 @ race city if its an auto. So do the suspension up then add some power

Post some pics too. How many KMS?

Yea, just a few of the splines on the steering box got smushed. not all the way around, but enough that I can't slide the steering shaft on. I just can't figure out how it happened, that's a hardened spline! Heck, if those are smushed, chances are the shaft is a bit bent anyway.
Ordering a new one from rock auto, local suppliers have me disheartened. I spoke with rock auto this morning and am very pleased with their service. 3-5 days, paid duty/taxes. rock on rock auto!

871LE - I need brakes for my car, but my 15x8 wheels probably won't fit the LS1 conversion kit Anything else I can do ?

hahaduderjay, that sounds familiar, I myself work in that industry, for Enerflex systems actually. I imagine you've heard of them

Think carefully about tubular a-arms. I really don't think they're a good place to spend that kind of cash. I'd spend it on other parts first. Sub frame connectors would be first on my list.

If you're handy with a welder, make your own torque arm. I'm going to be this summer.

Moog 5664 is the stiff spring. I could mine ordered in from C-tire. $88 I think for the front pair. I'd recommend it.

well off the top of my head...good pads like Hawks, slotted rotors and stainless steel lines. That should help over stock I would think.

Not interested in upgrading to 16's?

Nah, I can't justify buying 4 new wheel, when I have perfectly good 15x8's here. You can't seem to get very wide tires in the 16" wheel size anyway. And any higher and it's all low profile tires that are really expensive.

What the crap, you just change your name to avro206??

Yea, i'm thinking those are good ideas. I'm wondering if I can get better calipers that will fit in the stock location?

hehe--yes. Haven't owned that IROC for years. Since I have the Formula now I thought a name change would be appropriate.

I am not putting the bra bacl on the car it messed up the paint on the nose and the bar is for sale.

car has 170 km and coming out of the paint shop within a couple of days. I have coming from davidt's out of edmonton some new door decals.

@ sonix i worked for finning powersystems for a bit a quit after 8 months of bs i went back to fairbanks morse engines. www.fairbanksmorse.com. Iam going on my ninth year. I work on lots of gas compression, canadian coast guard and use to travel a lot to the states and south america. all i've worked on for 14 years is engines...big ones never done any car hot rodding.

Anyways guess i'll study this suspension deal for a bit and maybe i'll leave the front arms and just put new bushings in em.

Hey, right on. I was with Pamco before Enerflex. Good bunch of guys there.
haha, they didn't like the finning guys too much though, probably the same complaints as you have.
Fairbanks morse eh? Oh that's right, they have their base in cochrane don't they? I remember calling them for some info on those oddball MEP engines. WEIRD setups eh?

Yea, very few members have upgraded to tubular front arms, and it's because they've run out of things to spend money on with regards to suspension. I'd just hit everything else first, once the car is fast, and handles great, and you STILL have money to burn, then sure.

Sharp looking IROC you've got there. Engine plans later?

lol those opposed piston engines (mep) are a rare one. 2 cranks per engine 2 pistons per cylinder, 2 stroke intake and exhaust ports. guess a twelve cylinder crank weighs around 3500 pounds, when i was living in SA for fairbanks I had 2 12 cylinder op dual fuels they ran in diesel mode or dual fuel diesel pilot with nat gas. they are 4400 hp running generators at 3.4 mw with the 110 percent load.. Also work on alco engines alot 9 inch cylinder bores diesels mostly on coast gaurd ice breakers.

engines plans are leaning towards a crate engine leaning towards maybe a gm perfomance 350 maybe 383 TBI tho for this one want to keep the ecm and wiring stock and maybe get a prom burned on a dyno. wanna keep all that cruise control and stuff those stand alone aftermarket ecms from what i am seeing dont allow some of that stuff. I like cruising on the highways out in banff and then hitting the twisties. Use to do it alot with my bike which i sold last year, now I got the camaro and I can take my kids out in it they love it.

anyways suspension and interiour and some other work first then diffy then tranny and then the engine. I am hoping to get to edmonton this week end to check out davidts camaro yard, I am kind of picky and want some interiour stuff to fix some odds and ends, pick and pull i want to see they piuck and pull in calgary is cleaned out

ugh, now i feel bad
we were being extra careful, right?



the 1LE upgrade would be nice, everyone says 12" but i think they are actually 11-7/8" (close enough), mind you they are thicker rotors also
apparently they will clear the crosslace 15s, but not the honeycomb 15s
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/br...l-fitment.html (Brake upgrades and wheel fitment)

dont know if this is a re-post?

here is a local (alberta) 3rd gen with lsx power

http://www.performance-shop.com/yabb...?topic=44152.0

enjoy

Oh Toma posted that. he used to be the guy who ran the performance shop on center street (now on 32nd ave NE). He has an 8 second turbo mustang, and a turbo'd dodge colt that runs 13's.

yup, hes come a long way since then, and is quite the tuner now
i believe hes over at dynamotive now, and he does dyno tuning out of mustangs unlimited (or classic mustangs?) shop
the dodge was a black 2.2L turbo omni, ran pretty good, we ran another similar one in the 12s
the mustangs he's always had, rebuilding one now, to install yet another twin turbo set-up
crazy kid - LOL

so Sonix, you up and running?

i'd like to snag those q-jets off creepingdeath if possible


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You get a hold of creeping death yet? Making any trips up to red deer in the near future?

No, i'm still waiting on parts. Got the steering gear from rock auto on friday - opened the box to find mildly smushed splines. Enough to mean i'm not going to get a shaft on it. Sent it back, and i'm waiting for a new one now. Also waiting for a new power steering pulley in the mail. Tried to remove the one off my old unit (bought a new pump), and the pulley was fubared, and ruined my pulley. So, new one of those in the mail...
I'm expecting all parts by this weekend, so I should be running (loudly) by the weekend, since I only need steering now.

Then i'll run by the exhaust shop and see if they can tweak my headers. After that i'll start tuning. Maybe remove the headers and beadblast and get them ceramic coated too....

Anyone in this thread ever deal with Dale Adams performance? They're really close to my house, i'm thinking they can do my exhaust if they're competent.

ugh, so the new part arrived having splines damaged, not very impressive eh!

ya, pulleys get bent up so easy, they're PITA

dale adams was good when steve was there doing the exhaust, but i dont know about now

i've heard some good stuff recently about the minute muffler on mcleod, and of couse the carline muffler in ramsy (eric) is good also