Hey Jay, time for another progress update? I cant wait to get back to Calgary. End of may, boys. I want to do some things to it this summer. Cant do too much, because of money, but what I want are: subframes, PAINT, shift kit, carb, headers, cam. Not sure about the headers and cam though. They are lowest on the list.. I'm also not too sure if it's a good idea to put a cam into a 230k motor without rebuilding it. I def. cant afford a rebuild... But. End. Of. May. Anyone wanna hire a 1st year engineering student for the summer?

anyone here have a red camaro....and work on 72nd ave and 52nd street?

Ok so maybe I might be able. I might be able to spend like $2k on the motor, so.. 350 from somewhere?

whoa, forgot about this thread.

yea, rear end and rear suspension in. short block is done. i'm getting the heads back from D&W sometime this week. Plan is to have the car ready to drive by may. it'll still be ugly as SIN, but fast as hell.
I'll post a few pics of the short block with specs when i'm back in town, i'm in vernon for the weekend right now.

haha, first year eng student? nobody takes you seriously for a while, until after 3rd year. Mech engg right? I worked at Adaptive engineering after second year, might be something to look into. They build rolling stairways basically, to go up to planes. Solidworks design. I worked as a slave, doing wiring, and building the units. Cool machining/assembly experience though. Check out the university of calgary website, they should show *some* engineering student jobs.
You must be writing finals soon eh? hahah!

you should be able to build a tame 350 for that price, and get it in the car. if you still have good compression, I might recommend new valves seals, ported heads, cam and suspension goodies. improves the overall car a lot for $2k, compared to just motor (then have it handle like a slushbox or something..)

Cool, I'll check the UofC website. Thanks.

Dont know about my compression right now. I'd have to test it when I'm back in town. I dunno about the engine though. The 2k is just for the motor. I also plan to get a set of SFCs and soforth. I sort of like the idea of a tame 350 because I can add stuff to it later as cash allows. Though I also have to pass emissions with this sucker, so I'm not sure what to do. Maybe if I installed a cat, and didnt go too wild with the cam, I could make the 305 pass.

Argh, stupid money. Curtis is buying a nitrous system. You are pretty much doing a full freaking resto. Chris is building a new engine for his Camaro too.

...I washed my car a few times and changed the oil once.

hmm Chris? who's that?

well, resto minus body work... so, engine, suspension, rear end, and stereo... (stereo is a little behind, have to finish that in the summer...oh and front suspension, also a little lacking...)

yea, my 350 is about $2k if you play your cards right, 350 block with 416 heads. you can add beefier bits later on. then again, you could add the perf parts to your 305, wait until it dies, then move them over to the new 350... well, something to think about...

emissions? haha, do they actively test that in vancouver? In vernon I chopped my cat on my last car myself, and my buddy had his '85 'maro's done by a mechanic, and nobody notices or cares. I heard vanc is more strict though.

lmao.This place musta been dead for a while.

Apeiron.


Anyway, yeah, they only test in the lower mainland. You CAN register your car somewhere else in bc but then I think if you get caught you're in big trouble. It's not too bad. They do a visual inspection for the cat, check the gas cap, then throw the thing on the dyno.

For that reason + fuel economy I'd rather just work with the 305 until it dies. I'll have to figure out what cam to get, and then I want to get a set of headers along with it. Maybe a carb too, but that's lowest on my list. I think I can still tweak my qjet a fair bit. Who knows, I may want to have a 'come help Ryan put his cam in for beer/vodka and money' day.

So how'd it go with those headers? Have you touched them at all yet? I hope they are working out for ya.

lmao... i was wondering when you might comment on that

but yeah, friday fed ex came to my house....no one home so they tried again today.....no one home arhhgh....im gonna leave a note or just call them and tell them that i will pick it up...im getting impatient for this bottle

Yeah, I was reading what you were saying about the button on the shifter. Actually, on that note, are you gonna run a line lock? Cause you may want to use it for that.. *shrug*

edit: It's interesting that the quick reply automatically uses your sig..

really let me try

but yeah, line lock is a looong way away

yea, I gotta get a line lock, stick shift makes it hard to do a brake stand without 3 legs...
But of course it's low on my list, driveable is high...

I tried to electrolyze those headers, didn't work so hot, I didn't have enough sacrificial steel in the tub... I'll try again later, unless I can find a sandblaster that I can use for free/cheap... Maybe at the UofC I can use the SAE teams one, if no one catches me

matter of fact, i'm installing my voodoo cam tonight probably, it's a lot easier with the motor on a stand though!

I think a cool comp xe262 would suit ya well.

Yeah, a xe262 is what I was looking at too. Just have to find out what it'll do to emissions. I dont really care about my headers because I dont have AIR, but the big thing about the cam is that I would prefer it not screw me over on the sniffer.

if you already have a gutted cat, I'm not so sure you'll pass as is....
if your egr is working you should be ok if it's tuned right. Otherwise just keep it registered as an alberta vehicle, since this is your primary residence (your parents house). Just say it's a territory Z vehicle, you have to return to your primary residence 3 times a year (no problem, summer, christmas, and...?), and that's it. I had my delta registered as a BC car living in calgary for a year before it was stolen, no problems.

Oh, no, I know. I have no cat at all, but I plan to buy one and weld some flanges in so I can interchange it with my cutout.

No idea about the EGR though. Never cared enough to check it out. :P

As fr registering it, I think that's what I am doing this year, but I'm not returning 3 times a year.. And when I went back for christmas I flew. But I will call the insurance company and ask a few more questions. If I could keep my AB plates and not have to drill holes in bumpers, that would be awesome.

update again:

-short block is complete, and hugger orange.
-picking up assembled heads today, then painting silver
-pulled 305 last night, am taking off things like flexplate and starter and clamshells for re-use
-got a new waterpump, will paint that silver this weekend
-will be able to mostly finish longblock this weekend, as the girlfriend has finals so I have some free time, and it's warm!!!

-deadline of may 1st is looking achievable!

Looks awesome. Why the clutch fan though?

most of us in Calgary post in the Alberta forum on F-body Generations Message Board :: Index

didn't know about that board nosaint...

Ryan, that's a nylon fan by flex-a-lite, wit ha 2" AL spacer. My stock clutch fan is sitting by the garbage, waiting to go in the trash.
oh yea, do you have an iron on aluminum intake manifold? I am throwing out my stock aluminum intake manifold, but I figured if you had the stock iron one you may want it.... oh, and a chrome water neck, I need a straight one for my performer RPM so i'm tossing my 45* angle one...

sonix = show off.....lol

Curtis, notice how I never show a picture of the car though? yea, it's nothing to look at, reservation rocketry at it's finest.

Oh, ok. Much better. Much less work than wiring up an electric one, too.

Hell yes that intake sounds good. I have the stock crap one, so consider me interested.

whoa, don't get too excited,
it's still a stock intake, just better then the stock iron one that 99% of canadian exported 3rd gens got, it's the american one, oooooh! aluminum, and more like an edelbrock performer manifold. oh, and a nice shiny water neck that fits it right. (but doesn't fit a performer RPM...)

Mhmm, I thought I remembered you saying that way back when. But if it's better, hey.

Uh, only thing is, it does have EGR, right? Just making sure, 'cause there's a chance I wont be able to weasel my way out of an emissions inspection next fall.

I seriously have NO idea what will be happening yet. I may be able to stay under AB registration again, I might not. I may be able to keep the car, I might not. No idea. Right now it looks like the worst case scenario is I keep the car and can only afford a few things (SFCs, etc) for it. I'm also being, uh, influenced, by a couple of other forces to try to buy a safer, 'more reliable' car.

....Even though the T/A has only ever left me stranded once, and that was when the rad hose blew..

edit: It's always interested me how your bird is like that. With metric lugs and imperial units on some (or all?) of the gauges.. American intake.. Hmm.

certain forces eh? Certain short femine forces that is?

yep egr, I've got the old EGR sitting there acting as a blockoff plate.

yea, I have no clue as to the origins of my car, metric lug nuts (I think all third gens had that), metric gauges (speedo at least, never paid attention to the others...), electronic q-jet and dist, other weirdo crap that I didn't understand, wasn't hooked up, so got tossed into the trash.

Heh, I think my EGR is on there only as a blockoff plate too. if I'm gonna take the sniffer, I plan to spend a bit of time figuring out what's going on there, get a cat, run decent fuel, sit in the parking lot with the hood up and holding it at 2000 RPM beforehand, tune it down to the point where it'll barely idle, etc. It will be pathetic.

I've got my share of weird stuff that wasnt hooked up, that's for sure. The vacuum switch for my TCC lockup wasnt even plugged into anyhting, and Apeiron noticed it when he was having a look under there and reconnected it for me. Actually, that was the worst. Now it's just a loose connector here and there.


As for the forces, not quite. More like slightly taller feminine forces.


Oh, right. Tuning for smog. I've been doing reading and thinking it'll be ok, but still. The only thing about insurance is that because I will be married I will drop from my parents' plan and that may force me to register it in BC... Hm.

oh ok... Well I don't know much about how you need a sniffer in the lower mainland, but not else where in BC...? You could also jump on a plan in alberta this summer, and at the end of summer transfer to territory 'z'. I went with meloche monnex, they're good to engineers.

do you just need to pass sniffer or visual? Just once every 5 years sorta thing? Then I think it's do-able, maybe not with the electric cutout though

ah so you've met Apeiron? Was his car running then? That looked like a sweet ride in the one picture of seen of the back end of it...

I'll need to pass an out-of-province as well. I tried to last fall and failed miserably, but if I lose the cutout and do a few other 5 minute things to it, it'll be fine. And you're right, only lower mainland has sniffer tests. Every two years. I plan to put some flanges on the cutout and just make it interchangable with a cat.

I'm actually with Monnex right now, so I will give ém a call and see if I can do that. I think that's what I'm doing right now, but I dont know how having my own plan will change that.

Yeah, I met Chris. Real nice guy, even in person. When I saw his Camaro it was sans engine, but when I drive back to Calgary in May I will stop in Salmon Arm again and he's gonna take me for a ride in it.

oh sweet it's running? how old is that guy anyway?

I'm probably going to Vernon sometime in the summer to show off the car once it's running, maybe i'll go through salmon arm....

Dunno if it's running atm, but he said it'd be done by the time I roll through. As for how old... He doesnt look much older than you? And if you didnt know, he too is an engineer. Heh.

Hey, I just noticed today's date. April 16th, or 4.16 ...416... casting # of my heads.... I'll stop now.

hey sonix what kind of carb are you throwing on that bad boy?

non cc qjet from an '84 cutlass. DR rods, k hanger or something. modified choke pulloff. I have yet to figure out a baseline primary rods/jets though. I bought a set of 75 jets, so I might use those.

Why dont you step up to the real world, and buy a holley....like us cool folk

yea, and be like everybody else eh?
I don't have the extra $350+ dollars to burn, and I really don't think i'd gain anything at all by going to that.

I guess thats your preference though, I noticed a huge difference, i have my old q jet if you do need another one.....i dont know what good 2 would do but.....just throwing that out there

I think i've got 3 kicking around here.... I might be able to use the parts, i'll let you know if we meet up sometime.

With the standard trans apparently i'd get better throttle response with a double pumper, but I never noticed a bog or anything with the q-jet on the LG4, so we'll see what it's like once I get it all dialed in...

many setbacks right now... gotta bring in the block to get a starter hole drilled/tapped, have to figure out how to put on u-joints, need to find fitting plugs to plug up my performer RPM, have to find a place to mount my throttle cable thingy on said intake manifold...

lol looks like your having a great time :P but yeah, if you want the carb for parts man its yours, i was gonna turf it, my parents are bitching about it sitting in the garage....haha.....but yea, when i did my intake i think i had to buy like.......500 plugs lol **** there was alotta holes in that thing. But oh well....haha i just took the intake to autovalue and said "plug these" and it was done as for my throtttle cable and kickdown, i just used my old bracket from the old intake and put it on the new intake....

Any of you guys/girls know of a good paint shop in town?

macco

got my beast running monday night.... Good lord that's loud. I'm going to bleed the brakes , put on my new KYB GR2 shocks, and get the exhaust put back on.... then start the long grueling task of tuning it...

...and some shameless pride pictures:

good side (not that the car has a good side...)

all motor mmm, that looks good.

I still need to get the exhaust put on, open headers is kinda fun though . And tune the carb, not sure if it's running lean or rich, but I did have to drill the primary throttle blades to get it to idle. Now i've got 24* base timing, ported vacuum, and a 750 RPM idle, with no use of idle mixture screws... hmmm...

daym, that looks nice. Did you always have that spoiler?


Are those the hedmans on there?

yep, that's the stock '82 TA spoiler.

Yea, headers aren't easy to install, unless you're willing to remove a bunch of stuff, then it's cake. I scrubbed the headers down with an acid paste, naval jelly sorta thing, and scotch brite I think. Then washed them, etc. Then sprayed them with 1500* VHT header paint, baked one in the oven (didn't do it twice...), and hit the other with a propane torch. Breaking in the cam cooked them best though, it smoked a fair bit, but now the coating is on for good. (except where I scratched it off in the process of installing them). Now I need to get my y-pipe modified to fit them...

Oh, I realized I never responded. I meant to say wow, nice job. And I bet they are a bitch to get in. They sure were a bitch to get out.



Uh, anyone know of a good transmission shop around here? I need some work done..

hahaha, so you changed the fluid, and it died or something?
just replace the trans ($100 PaP), it'll be a heck of a lot cheaper then getting it repaired ($1500)

Nono, I need the shop to change it. I mean, sure I can drain and refill it, but I wanna flush it and replace the filter. Also, I'd like a shift kit installed. And since I am too scared to either screw the trans up or spill a drop of fluid on my dad's precious driveway, I'd rather just let a shop handle it.)

I have good news too

1)My purge is in tommorow
2) Im filling my tank on saturday (just for purge, my engine seems like it wants to crater soon)
3) Ive started my own engine build instead of getting one built
4) There is no number 4

Nice.



Damnit I wish college wasnt so expensive. Today I learned that 100w H3 bulbs + stock wiring = smoke.

ouch! We rewired my brothers crown vic with relays and silvania superstars... It's like football stadium lighting now..

Curtis, what are your motor plans? so it looks like you'll be using your nitrous on the dying 350? most excellent
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oh right, Ryan, I'll be at pick a part at around 11am on saturday, for a few hours. You're up for that?