Ok guys and gals - i just read a bunch of posts from tweeters to subs!!! Just about all manufacturers names were mentioned!!! But not a word about 4x6 or 6x9 kicker speakers!!! Im the kinda guy who kinda goes for matching stuff. And since my mind is set on kicker subs and amps - could someone plz tell me if the kicker speakers are worth it!!! I know they have been mentioned in the tech articles - but nowhere in the posts!!! This is what i have in mind - plz let me know if its ok!!! I listen to some rap - and dance!!! But mostly along the lines of aerosmith, metallica.......... Sub: ONE Kicker Solo-Baric 10" Amp: Kicker Impulse IX405D 5-Channel Speakers: 4x6 Impulse i460 2-Way 6x9 Impulse i6903 3-Way Any help with equipment choice will be helpful!!! Hopefully Kicker related!!! I already have a sony head unit!!! Also if somebody has the time - could u explain to me - what is the diff between a 2 ohm and 4 ohm sub - any1 better - whats the deal with amps running at 2 or 4 ohm loads??? Thanks Jay ------------------ Acceleration = Adrenaline [This message has been edited by highspeedfreak (edited September 25, 2001).]

nothing is better, it has to deal with the resistance of the speaker, therefore adjusting the power output on the amp...

So would it be better buying 2 or 4 ohm subs!!! I know u mentioned nothing is better - but is a 4 ohm sub better cause u can run it at 2 while the 2 u cant run at 4!!!??? Am i making sense???

Why do ads make it a point that the amp can run with a 1 ohm load smoothly???

Thanks

[This message has been edited by highspeedfreak (edited September 25, 2001).]

because you can run more speakers off of it, the lower the ohm, the more power you can put out...

depends on what amp you have, what the power ratings are, and how you hook up your subs...

all of this depends on the ohm and power output...

i know its stupid, but go to rockford fosgates tech help and look at their wiring diagrams...

well its like this you can wire 2-4ohms speakers to make a 2ohm load on the amp, such as my amp which is a kenwood excelon pushes 300x1@4ohm and 600x1@2ohm so it really depends on what the amp you have can handle and then buy subs accordingly or buy your subs and sit down and find out what it would take to push those and buy an amp accordingly. post the specs of your system and i could tell you if it will work or what u would want. in a gernal aspect.

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OK i kinda understand it now!!! And ill do someresearch - yeah at RF's website too!!!

But now back to the other reason for the post!!!

Are kicker 4x6's and 6x9's any good!!!

Thanks

What are the specs of that amp (the power it puts out at what impendence), and we can tell you which sub you need. Also, Kicker speakers are proabably alright, I think that's what Jim's running. I dont know about their specifics or the specific lines though.

- Mike

As u probably figured im no expert to tell u of hand or make sense of all the digits so here is the link:

http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-7EYelWzR5Lg/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=3&g=120&I=206 IX405D&o=&a=

And this is what i wanna get!!!

Sub: ONE Kicker Solo-Baric 10"
Amp: Kicker Impulse IX405D 5-Channel
Speakers: 4x6 Impulse i460 2-Way
6x9 Impulse i6903 3-Way

I could have done this too - here are the specs of the amp (IX405D):

3-, 4-, 5-channel output
40 watts x 4 + 200 watts x 1 at 4 ohms
55 watts x 4 + 290 watts x 1 at 2 ohms
115 watts x 2 + 200 watts x 1 in bridged mode
requires 4-gauge power and ground leads — wiring and hardware not included with amplifier (see Recommended Accessories)
speaker-level inputs
MOSFET power supply
0-18 dB bass boost circuit (centered at 40 Hz) on subwoofer channel
two 0-12 dB treble boost circuits (centered at 18,000 Hz) on front and rear channels
two 18 dB/octave high-pass crossovers (switchable at 70 or 110 Hz) on front and rear channels
low-pass 18 dB/octave crossover (switchable at 70 or 110 Hz) on sub channel
20-3/16"W x 2-1/2"H x 9-1/2"D
dash-mountable gain controller



[This message has been edited by highspeedfreak (edited September 25, 2001).]

the lower the impedance, the more power the amp can theoretically put out, but if the amp tries to put out more than it's capable of, you get an overpriced paperweight. So, you need to make sure your speaker impedance matches what the amp is capable of handling.

If it's a Kicker ZR amp, then it can play into 2 ohms bridged, so you would want a pair of 4 ohm subs. If it's an Impulse amp, then it can only handle 4 ohms bridged, so you would need a pair of 8 ohm subs.

Anyway, on to speakers. I've got Kicker Resolution separates and I pretty much hate how they sound. They're very harsh and altogether not very pleasant sounding. I've always been a fan of the Impulse line of coax speakers though. Their 6x9s sound great, and the 4x6s aren't bad. There are plenty of other setups that I prefer, but I still like the Impulse stuff.

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The I460's and I6903 will be great additions over stock by far. The Solo will be fine, as with 14v it will receive 390 watts. the amp is 40x4 for the front/rear and has seperate gains,eq and crossover settings. The sub amp, is a class D so it will be easy on your charging system. Plus, you get a remote gain control for the sub,so easy tuning up front.
Depending on what Solo you get, will depend on what size of enclosure you'll need.
To check on box applcations, they are on our website as well. www.kicker.com

Hey i mentioned getting a a single 10" solo!!!
Will the system shown above be under powered by the amp - should i get 2 amps (for the speakers and a seperate one for the sub)???
And also can someone plz tell me what "bridged" means??? Can amps not rated as class D - perform near the same standards as the class D???
Thanks

[This message has been edited by highspeedfreak (edited September 26, 2001).]

hehe. Apparently I'm not very up to date with my Kicker knowledge! I had no idea that Kicker came out with a 5 channel amp with a class D subwoofer section. That's great!

Anyway highspeed, that 5th channel of your amp is designed to be a mono subwoofer amp, so no bridging is necessary. You just need to adhere to it's lowest impedance reccomendation. If it says it can play 2 ohms, then your total subwoofer impedance should be 2 ohms.

Amps that are not rated as class "D" can certainly perform as well, and for many cases, far better. Class A/B and especially strictly class A amps are much cleaner than a class D at high frequencies, but as they say, there's no free lunch. A class D amplifier is extremely efficient, up to 90% efficient in some cases. Your typical class a/b amp is about 40-60% efficient, and most class A amps are about 25% efficient.

BTW, "bridged" is a term given to a 2 channel amp that has been wired to supply the power of both channels to one source. An amp needs to be designed to do this or you could damage it trying. If you check your owner's manual, I'll bet that it will tell you how to bridge the 4-channel section of your amp.

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