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Old 02-10-2005, 02:57 AM   #1
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Canadian Carbured Emissions

I've been looking in some old dealer brochures lately, and I've noticed some interesting things with respect to the availability of the CCC system on Canadian cars.

The 2.8L 2bbl V6 LC1 was not available with CCC.

The 5.0L 4bbl V8 LG4 was non-CCC, with CCC being available at extra cost on Sport Coupes only. It was unavailable on the Berlinetta and Z28.

The 5.0L 4bbl V8 L69 was only available with CCC.

A CCC LG4 will also have RPO <b>NB1 - Emission System, Closed Loop</b>, instead of NM4 - Emission Control, Non Closed Loop (Export). Both of them should also have NM5 - Emission System, Canadian Requirements.
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A friend at work has an 83 Firebird LG4 with CCC (vin H). My wife's 83 T/A does not have CCC (vin H).
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Re: Canadian Carbured Emissions

hey there, on your wifes 83:

if you ever have a chance to, could you please post the vertically stamped numbers on the carb body/casting

and also the distributor stamping numbers too ??


i want to know just to know for personal codes/numbers learning/records keeping

that would be freaking awesome thanks!
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Re: Canadian Carbured Emissions

I'll have to dig up the documentation and dealer order sheets for my 1983 Z28... Mine was factory ordered and I'm pretty sure that the CCC system could be ordered on all LG4 cars that came to Canada though very few were optioned that way.

I remember the salesman talking about it... and talking us out of this option...

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Re: Canadian Carbured Emissions

I dug out my old Canadian Dealer books and
The CCC option WAS avalible on all LG4 engines in Canada in 1982 and 1983 (PRO code NBI) it was an extra cost option, did not increase performance and was rarely (if ever) ordered
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Re: Canadian Carbured Emissions

My 85 T/A bone stock 305 non CCC w/700R4. Atleast I dont think its CCC the only wire to the carb is for the choke. What appearance differences are there between the two? Distributer?
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Re: Canadian Carbured Emissions

Hate to sound stupid but what is the ccc system? I have an 85 z28 original 305 4bl and looking to rebuild the stock carb. Is the ccc system something I have to worry about?
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Re: Canadian Carbured Emissions

Hey I have a 92 camaro rs with a 350 crate motor. I'm worried about trying to pass emissions with it is there anything I should check or look for? Or do?
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Hey I have a 92 camaro rs with a 350 crate motor. I'm worried about trying to pass emissions with it is there anything I should check or look for? Or do?
Do you have a carb, or is it still TBI?
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Hey I have a 92 camaro rs with a 350 crate motor. I'm worried about trying to pass emissions with it is there anything I should check or look for? Or do?
In Canada the rules vary province by province. For example In most places in Canada you can legally remove the Cat on any car MY 1987 and older... 1988 and newer cars must have a cat (in the States it is a Federal crime to remove ANY cat... not so in Canada)

Which province are you in? How do they test... some are visual, some do a tail pipe sniff.. some are government run some are private testing agencies... Some are on a dyno/treadmill some are only an idle test. Some will base your emissions "line in the sand" based on the engine that the car cam with... Some will base it based on the new engine... etc etc etc.
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In Canada the rules vary province by province. For example In most places in Canada you can legally remove the Cat on any car MY 1987 and older... 1988 and newer cars must have a cat (in the States it is a Federal crime to remove ANY cat... not so in Canada)

Which province are you in? How do they test... some are visual, some do a tail pipe sniff.. some are government run some are private testing agencies... Some are on a dyno/treadmill some are only an idle test. Some will base your emissions "line in the sand" based on the engine that the car cam with... Some will base it based on the new engine... etc etc etc.
Where do you get your information from?

In just about every major province in Canada, it's against the law to remove ANY emissions equipment including the Catalytic Converter NO MATTER WHAT the year of the vehicle is!

Simply put, if your vehicle came equipped with it from the factory, it HAS to stay there otherwise you are subject to some very heavy fines.

For example in Ontario, removal of your cat is a $380 offense. Same as removing your EGR, same as removing the AIR pump. $380 for EACH offense. Even an open-element air cleaner is an emissions violation here.
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