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Old 06-20-2006, 12:10 AM   #1
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Does EGR PWM solenoid only work in closed loop?

Hi guys, what is the criteria for the pulse width modulated EGR solenoid to be active? I'm trying to find an easy way to verify I am going closed loop. I am having a problem getting the dwell on my MCS to range properly so I need to make sure I am indeed in closed loop. I can hear the EGR solenoid clicking loudly after a few minutes of run time. Does this mean I am in closed loop, or can the EGR solenoid also operate in open loop?
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Old 06-20-2006, 08:39 AM   #2
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As far as I know the EGR only operates in closed loop.
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Old 06-20-2006, 04:42 PM   #3
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My testing has also shown only closed loop. Which makes sense; older, non-CC cars used a thermostatic valve to prevent vacuum from reaching the EGR valve until operating temperature was reached.
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Old 06-20-2006, 04:52 PM   #4
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Ok this is good news, this means I am going closed loop since the EGR solenoid is functioning. This thing is loud! Is it normal for the EGR solenoid to make a very audible clicking sound? It is a lot louder than the clicking of the MCS.
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I would say it is not normal. Especially at idle when the solenoid is fully open (venting all vacuum to atmosphere so the EGR valve doesn't open) which is "0% EGR opening" and NO pulsing of the solenoid should be taking place. i.e. it should be silent at idle.
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:16 PM   #6
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but is "venting all vacuum to the atmosphere" still going to involve duty cycling the solenoid? I'll have to find what the heck I did with the FSM and get my vacuum gauge and check what the solenoid's output looks like.
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You raise a good point. I think zero means just that- ZERO, no cycling of the solenoid at all, but don't quote me on that. I can't ever recall "hearing" the EGR solenoid cycling.
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