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Old 02-02-2008, 08:22 PM   #1
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Help with charcoal can

first off hello this is my first post on the board after i have been reading for a few days...i picked up 2 87 firebirds a week or so ago one v6 and one v8.The wife said i hade to get rid of some toys so i left in my 4x4 chevy and come home with two firebirds but i had a car to give her as a gift so that helped out (she likes toys as much as i do) but she got the 2.8 not me lol.. anyways here is my question on the 305 the quad had to go it had seen its better days so i trip to the parts store netted a weiand intake manifold and holly 600 carb HEI distributor got her all together runs great but what should i do with the charcoal can lines? BTW i removed about everything that i didnt want or need (air pump,a/c.A.I.R lines off manifold and othe connected crap)ECM still hooked up and throwing a code DUH!.......also will i need to do something about the 700r4 TC lock up or with the ecm still lock it when needed?
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:16 PM   #2
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Re: Help with charcoal can

recommend trying to connect the can to help your mpg stay up. charcoal cans have been used since '66 so there must be a set-up somewhere for your carb that you can check out. what's the holly site say? might try the search function too
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:12 PM   #3
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good evening Do you have a 700r4 trans? and did you hook the tv cable up to the carb and get it adjusted? If you do have the 700r4 trans, and its not hooked up and you are driving it, you might burn up the trans. I thinkI would worry about the trans before the charcoal can. Don't know much about it, but just my .o2 worth.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:56 PM   #4
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The ECM won't lock up the TCC anymore. You also need to get a "TV cable corrector bracket", or whatever it's called exactly. Failure to do either correctly will result in transmission failure.

Sorry to hear you trashed the best street performance carb & ignition ever available.
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:13 AM   #5
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yeah got both brackets for the new carb setup
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:33 PM   #6
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Sorry to hear you trashed the best street performance carb & ignition ever available.
yeah with the carb sitting for 5 years i dont think it was worth saving and know holleys better and nothing about quads just rather be safe than messing around and making it more of a case than it was
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:17 PM   #7
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Good evening. Summit has the holley carb corrector for about $20.95, pn#sum700202, and the other bracket for the throttle link and tv cable #hyl-20-95 for approx 19.95. get help on the adjustment on the tv cable. On the holley thats been setting for a long time, check to see if the linkages move freely, and have it rebuilt. If unconfortable with that, buy a new carb. Its what I'm doing to my 86 vette. Just my .02 worth p.s. there is plenty of info on how to adjust on this forum, and there is good people here willing to share the info Thanks
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I forgot about the tcc lockup. summit has a painless lockup kit #prf 60109 for the trans. I think you will need this also, to lock the trans in hi-gear. I am not plugging for summit. Just go my parts there good luck
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:52 PM   #9
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yeah with the carb sitting for 5 years i dont think it was worth saving and know holleys better and nothing about quads just rather be safe than messing around and making it more of a case than it was
I'm sure there's somebody out there who can use it, so don't just trash it.

As long as they aren't corroded, cracked or warped, they can be rebuilt.

Don't mean to beat a dead horse, but it's going to cost you more to install that Holley they it would cost to get the CC carb running properly. The Holley won't deliver as good of economy that the q-jet can, nor will it make more power.

But, I'll stop now.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:37 PM   #10
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carb is on with brackets and tv is set right i still have the old quad in the holly box its going on ebay i just didnt know have to route the charcoal can and was hoping someone has done it to put me in the right direction i wireed the tc lock up as per the tech section until i get the tc lockup harness although al it looks like is a relay wired to the tc...headers and y pipe come in tomorrow so all my exhaust will be new..then should be good to go after i finish the brakes
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:48 PM   #11
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Re: Help with charcoal can

I'm with you. I bought my car already converted over to carb from tbi. They bypassed the cannister and I just ran a vacuum line over to the can so that the tank could breath. I noticed more pressure than normal when releasing the gas cap. It seemed to help but then maybe that wasn't the right thing to do. I could also see bubbles thru the side of the glass fuel filter when the car was shut off. If I cracked the gas cap it would stop. Any suggestions?
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If your canister only has two hoses on it, and that big vacuum control unit hanging in space in front of the intake manifold, leave everything hooked up except cap off the one that went to the carb vent (the large one on the top front of the carb).
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