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Old 02-07-2008, 12:52 PM   #1
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edelbrock 1406 stumbling and hard start

recently my 1406 started stumbling at initial accel and it is upseting me and I was wondering if any of you guys are getting the same thing. its on a mild 350 with a 5speed behind it.

I have read that edelbrocks are not the best carb for manual trans but havent a clue why

also my 350 starts right up when it is cold and it will start right up when warm if you do not wait a long time. it its more than 5 min wait time it is really hard to start

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Old 02-07-2008, 12:56 PM   #2
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Re: edelbrock 1406 stumbling and hard start

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recently my 1406 started stumbling at initial accel and it is upseting me and I was wondering if any of you guys are getting the same thing. its on a mild 350 with a 5speed behind it.
How old is the carb?

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I have read that edelbrocks are not the best carb for manual trans but havent a clue why
Popular wisdom says that the secondary air door will shut when you lift off the gas to shift, and then it'll have to open again when you get back on it. It may be objectionable or may be not, but there's no easy way to adjust it's behavior.
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also my 350 starts right up when it is cold and it will start right up when warm if you do not wait a long time. it its more than 5 min wait time it is really hard to start
How is the choke adjusted?

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Old 02-07-2008, 01:08 PM   #3
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Re: edelbrock 1406 stumbling and hard start

the carb has a fairly fresh rebuild but I think it has sat around more than ran

what is the secondary air valve? I really dont know

I think the choke is one mark to the lean side. if there is an adustment that I am missing then please let me know
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Re: edelbrock 1406 stumbling and hard start

If it's been sitting, it might have developed gum and varnish in some of the passages. Try flushing out the transfer slots and idle ports with carb cleaner. If that doesn't fix the problem, it might need a more thorough cleaning.

The air valve (or air door) is the flap that covers the secondaries. In an Edelbrock Performer, it's held closed by counterweights until there's enough demand through the secondaries to pull them open. The only way to alter it's opening and closing behavior is to modify the weights. Other carbs (Quadrajet, AVS, Thermoquad) use adjustable spring tension to control the secondary air valve, and vacuum secondary Holleys use spring tension to directly control the opening of the secondary throttle plates. Either approach offers more tunability than is easily possible with the Performer.

Is the choke open or closed when it's hard to start?
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:13 AM   #5
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Re: edelbrock 1406 stumbling and hard start

I have one of those foam edelbrock air filters which start on fire- so I am told

I took it off and the carb lost all its symtoms. I put another paper type filter on it and it did not run as good as it did without any filter at all

what do you guys think I should do?
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I'd try cleaning/rebuilding the carb.
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