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Hey, I got a 84 camaro for dirt cheap. It has the edle performer rpm manifold which i pulled to put on my camaro. It had a weber carb I have attached a few pictures. I cant find any info online about this carb was wondering if anyone has used weber and if they are good. And if anyone can point in direction of where to find which carb model it is
thanks
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__________________ 84 z28 HO t-top. Mods: color change to blue, vinyl wrapped interior, high flow water pump, optima red top
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It's an Edelbrock Performer, or Carter AFB. Weber was the actual manufacturer.
are these smog legal and do you know where to get a diagram so I can hook up the vacuum lines? Car i pulled it off of had no smog hooked up so all the ports are plugged and got no idea where the vacuum lines need to run.
__________________ 84 z28 HO t-top. Mods: color change to blue, vinyl wrapped interior, high flow water pump, optima red top
An Edelbrock 1405 is 600 CFM and comes with with a manual choke. Out of the box it's jetted a little richer than the same-sized 1406 with an electric choke, but those are just starting points.
i found it online and it says it has EGR hook ups, PCV and power brake booster. and distrubutor vacuum advance. Says mild performance for street strip/,marine use but doesn't mention smog/emissions. Does that mean its just a gamble as to whether smog peoples will fail its visual?
__________________ 84 z28 HO t-top. Mods: color change to blue, vinyl wrapped interior, high flow water pump, optima red top
your right, its pcv i saw not egr. I live in county where i just need one smog check to transfer title (just bought car) My current carb mixture solenoid is bad, so i guess I will just put the edle on while i rebuild other Quadra, take it of for smog, then back on to pair with my air gap manifold.
__________________ 84 z28 HO t-top. Mods: color change to blue, vinyl wrapped interior, high flow water pump, optima red top
this car is my daily driver and dont want to have it out of commission while I do the mcs. Plus I already have the edle so might as well put it on while i fix the damn quadra jet. Know where a good place to get a MCS is?
__________________ 84 z28 HO t-top. Mods: color change to blue, vinyl wrapped interior, high flow water pump, optima red top
The Edelbrock is different enough from a Quadrajet that it wouldn't be worth the trouble changing everything to make it work and then take it off again, especially when it only takes a couple of hours at most to rebuild the Quadrajet.
the problem is i have no idea waht the heck i am doing with rebuild carb, I have read the haynes manual like 8 times and the rebuild info on this site and can't wrap my brain around it. I am very much a learn/understand by seeing it, seeing how it works, and hands on.
__________________ 84 z28 HO t-top. Mods: color change to blue, vinyl wrapped interior, high flow water pump, optima red top
Even still, you're only looking at a couple of hours.
If you put the Edelbrock on, you need to do a manifold swap, replace your distributor, rewire the transmission TCC circuit, run a new fuel line from the pump to the carb, and figure out how to get the TV cable geometry correct. All for less mileage, less power, and less driveability.
Manifolds don't have vacuum ports for EGR, they have exhaust ports for EGR. The EGR vacuum port is on the carburetor.
The presence or absence of an EGR vacuum port isn't what's stopping you from being emissions legal though. In California, you must have the exact original equipment or an approved replacement to pass the visual inspection. There are no approved replacement carburetors.
Even still, you're only looking at a couple of hours.
If you put the Edelbrock on, you need to do a manifold swap, replace your distributor, rewire the transmission TCC circuit, run a new fuel line from the pump to the carb, and figure out how to get the TV cable geometry correct. All for less mileage, less power, and less driveability.
The edelbrock can't be bolted to the stock manifold? Would there be an adapter that would work for it? I have had to replace the fuel line and the last approx 10 inches is rubber hose that leads to my fuel inlet. So thats covered. I dont plan on keeping this carb on very long, but as it is now i am running so lean I can't barely drive my daily driver. by TV cable you mean throttle cable? If so, any recommendations? I think i am sending my quadrajet carb to a SoCal shop that friend turned me on to. I just need the edel to work while i send it off. Any recomendations on TV cable. I took the carb with the edelbrock performer RPM manifold (http://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/7101/10002/-1) off the exact same year camaro. After I get my one time smog i putting that manifold on it with the completely rebuild quadra.
The Edelbrock won't bolt to the stock manifold. You could use an adapter if you have the clearance.
The TV cable is the throttle valve cable for the transmission. It's essential for the proper working and longetivity of your transmission. Also essential is the wiring for the torque converter clutch. Currently it's controlled by the computer, but the computer won't work as soon as you put the other carab on.
You haven't mentioned what you're going to do about the distributor. The stock distributor needs the computer to control the ignition timing. You'll need to replace it with one that has mechanical advance.
the car i pulled this off of, I pulled the distributor off of and it looks to be the exact same as mine, but I guess I could put that distributor on my car. I didn't think that it would be all that different. the carb has two ports on the front of it one for timed distributor vacuum advance and one for non distributor advance heres picture http://static.summitracing.com/globa...s/edl-1405.pdf
what can i do about the throttle valve cable? and the torque converter?
__________________ 84 z28 HO t-top. Mods: color change to blue, vinyl wrapped interior, high flow water pump, optima red top
If the distributor is the exact same as yours, you can't use it. You need one with a vacuum advance canister.
Check the sticky at the top of the forum for ways to make the TCC work. You'll have to find bracketry that will make the TV cable work.
i took a second look at the distrubutor, its not the sameas the stock one that I have. would I have to pull the whole distrubutor out the block or could i pull cap, rotar and all that off it and put on mine? and what about the transmission wiring you were talking about for the longetity of my tranny?
