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Street Lethal · 06-25-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kristy

Hi my name is Kristy and I have to ask you some questions about this Iroc.

First of all, Kristy, as far as I'm concerned, that takes a lot of nerve to post this in a fellow member's build thread. Whether the car here in question is yours or not, it's very embarrassing for the original poster to even suggest something like this in front of other member's who have taken an interest in his project. I feel for your situation, however, you really should have at least had the decency to e-mail him privately, and/or send a private message to him, first....

ssean92 · 06-25-2008, 05:14 PM

I would love to find a convert to redo......Nice find

wvabreeze · 06-25-2008, 11:31 PM

Here are some progress pics of the last couple of weeks work.Haven't got as much done as I wanted but my daughter came in from outa town,been spending time with her.Here is a before of the dash.

And here is where I'm at now.

I had to put in some serious thinking before putting out the money for the gauges.I got more in them than I paid for the car!Took almost two days to make the wiring harness for them since they are all mechanical I didn't have to locate very many factory wires.Bad thing is I plugged one wire on the fuel gauge in the wrong place and cooked my tank sending unit.
Located some Iroc tailights and put the spoiler back on while back there.

Under hood wires have been thinned out considerably.Still a little messy but they need to stay up out of the way for a while anyway.

The unnecessary wiring taken out.

And finally the 4th gen seats that will be going in eventually.I will most likely wait until everything is done to put them in.

I think I am at a standstill for a little while though.The slave cylinder is moving the clutch fork enough to disengage the clutch but it's not.If I have to pull the motor and tranny I am going to go ahead and clean up the engine bay and paint it.I was wanting to take it out on the road and blister the tires real good before doing this,but if I gotta take it out I am darn sure not bolting it back in just to take it right back out.
I had to delete some of the removed wiring pics but you get the hint.

DCOWBOYS1975 · 06-26-2008, 07:13 AM

Nice gauge cluster. Those things ain't cheap, however they look sweet. I need some more pictures of the wires I can rip out. Or better yet which ones stay. If you have some pictures please let me know and I will give you my email address. Thank you. Lookin' good by the way. Please say you are gonna get rid of that sticker on the back bumper.

Alright bro, well when you get a little further in the project I will inform you . THATS MY CAR! I left it in Ohio years ago. Thank you for finding it.

wvabreeze · 06-26-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DCOWBOYS1975

I need some more pictures of the wires I can rip out. Or better yet which ones stay. If you have some pictures please let me know and I will give you my email address. Thank you. Lookin' good by the way. Please say you are gonna get rid of that sticker on the back bumper.

Alright bro, well when you get a little further in the project I will inform you . THATS MY CAR! I left it in Ohio years ago. Thank you for finding it.

Yeah Yeah everybody's a dang comedian

Anything in particular would like done to your car while I got it?
Yes not only will the sticker be coming off I will probably replace the whole cover.Been looking for something nice at the junkyards but most look worse than mine.The front and rear cover both are spider cracked really bad.
If you are getting rid of your computer, running a carb and have an HEI what I did was any wire coming out of the computer going through the kick panel and up to the engine bay was cut at the plug in the kick panel.When I pulled the plug up into the engine compartment I traced where they went and none of the computer wires stayed.There is still a decent wad of wires around the blower motor, they stayed.Any wire going to the starter stayed.Either two or three for the alternator stayed,I don't have an alt. in it yet so I'm not sure there.My car had an electric cooling fan but I don't have any wires going that direction so plan B will be instated for fan wiring.The headlights are in there own loom so they stayed.There were some relay looking things behind the brake booster that all got cut,most of these wires went to the computer eventually.I will have to make a harness for the wipers,the motor was missing when I bought it so someone helped themselves to the harness.I no longer have power windows so a lot of wiring came out from the console area that runs under the seat and down the rocker panel.Should have left some of that cause my 4th gen seat is power,could have used a power wire.
The few wires I ran are for the gauges and HEI.
If you need help let me know while it's a little fresh in the head it won't take long before it's lost.When I learn something new something old leaves.Not many brain cells left to store to much info.

DCOWBOYS1975 · 06-27-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wvabreeze

Yeah Yeah everybody's a dang comedian

Anything in particular would like done to your car while I got it?
Yes not only will the sticker be coming off I will probably replace the whole cover.Been looking for something nice at the junkyards but most look worse than mine.The front and rear cover both are spider cracked really bad.
If you are getting rid of your computer, running a carb and have an HEI what I did was any wire coming out of the computer going through the kick panel and up to the engine bay was cut at the plug in the kick panel.When I pulled the plug up into the engine compartment I traced where they went and none of the computer wires stayed.There is still a decent wad of wires around the blower motor, they stayed.Any wire going to the starter stayed.Either two or three for the alternator stayed,I don't have an alt. in it yet so I'm not sure there.My car had an electric cooling fan but I don't have any wires going that direction so plan B will be instated for fan wiring.The headlights are in there own loom so they stayed.There were some relay looking things behind the brake booster that all got cut,most of these wires went to the computer eventually.I will have to make a harness for the wipers,the motor was missing when I bought it so someone helped themselves to the harness.I no longer have power windows so a lot of wiring came out from the console area that runs under the seat and down the rocker panel.Should have left some of that cause my 4th gen seat is power,could have used a power wire.
The few wires I ran are for the gauges and HEI.
If you need help let me know while it's a little fresh in the head it won't take long before it's lost.When I learn something new something old leaves.Not many brain cells left to store to much info.

Thank you for the info I plan to do it this weekend hopefully. I will let you know how that comes out. Also if you could put a nice paint job and new top on my car for me I would greatly appreciate it. LMAO. No really, it's looking good. You read that thread on the Rustolem $50 paint job?? Crazy stuff there. It sounds just Red Neck enough for me to try.

Trey

mesterz2889 · 06-27-2008, 12:13 PM

your project reminds me of my car dash and all that unnecesary wiring and 4th gen seats but mines still at a stand still

i need some money

wvabreeze · 06-27-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DCOWBOYS1975

Thank you for the info I plan to do it this weekend hopefully. I will let you know how that comes out. Also if you could put a nice paint job and new top on my car for me I would greatly appreciate it. LMAO. No really, it's looking good. You read that thread on the Rustolem $50 paint job?? Crazy stuff there. It sounds just Red Neck enough for me to try.

Trey

New top and paint,no problem.You don't mind if it's a professional paint job though do you?I can't see the Rustoleum method for a car that doesn't belong to me

I don't know if I read the same article but everyone I have read requires too much sanding between coats or something like that.On my Jeep I tried the Duplicolor crap,never again.I've done better rattle can jobs.I will probably have this one painted.I want black and to look like a mirror.I painted a fishing boat this winter with Valspar enamel truck and trailer paint from Farm & Fleet,it turned out real slick.I'm not sure about trying it on a car though.
On your wiring project be sure and do something with the power wires that go to the computer.I traced mine back to the fuse panel area and either pulled the connector out of box or terminated the end with tape real good.You don't want energized wires floating around the metal dash framework or your ride may go POOF.I hate it when that happens

I gotta go outa town on Sat so if you got a question it may be Sun. before I get back to ya.Good luck.

1bad91Z · 06-27-2008, 12:48 PM

I have a complete TPI setup for sale if you're interested in swapping that thing over!

PM me if you are interested.

wvabreeze · 06-27-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mesterz2889

your project reminds me of my car dash and all that unnecesary wiring and 4th gen seats but mines still at a stand still

i need some money

If you run across any of that free money let me know.Actually I am going to have to slow down on the items that require funds also.Gonna get myself in a bind if not careful.
I think the previous owner didn't get something in the tranny correct.The slave cylinder moves the fork enough to disengage the clutch but it's not.I think I will use this oportunity to pull the engine and tranny and clean the engine bay,paint it, get the wiring in looms and delete the A/C stuff.
I wanted to get it on the road and play around this summer some but I had a reality check with myself and realized I don't need to rush.Do it right the first time instead of half***
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Originally Posted by 1bad91Z

I have a complete TPI setup for sale if you're interested in swapping that thing over!

PM me if you are interested.

Thanks for the offer. I have already removed all that wiring and don't really want to put a bunch back in.I know fuel injection is far superior to a carb in every way.I just wanna stay semi old school.Been a long time since I had something that wasn't FI.

DCOWBOYS1975 · 06-30-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wvabreeze

New top and paint,no problem.You don't mind if it's a professional paint job though do you?I can't see the Rustoleum method for a car that doesn't belong to me

I don't know if I read the same article but everyone I have read requires too much sanding between coats or something like that.On my Jeep I tried the Duplicolor crap,never again.I've done better rattle can jobs.I will probably have this one painted.I want black and to look like a mirror.I painted a fishing boat this winter with Valspar enamel truck and trailer paint from Farm & Fleet,it turned out real slick.I'm not sure about trying it on a car though.
On your wiring project be sure and do something with the power wires that go to the computer.I traced mine back to the fuse panel area and either pulled the connector out of box or terminated the end with tape real good.You don't want energized wires floating around the metal dash framework or your ride may go POOF.I hate it when that happens

I gotta go outa town on Sat so if you got a question it may be Sun. before I get back to ya.Good luck.

I am gonna do mine with boat paint. Supposed to take less coats. It can't look any worse. I need another car before I can go diggin all through my camaro. The wife for some reason doesn't think a new Truck is the best idea. LOL.

wvabreeze · 06-30-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DCOWBOYS1975

The wife for some reason doesn't think a new Truck is the best idea. LOL.

Mine's just the opposite,she wants a truck again.Guess I'm gonna have to get my Yota fixed or she'll go out and trade her Durango off,that we just paid off.I like not having a car payment for a change.
Be sure to check the label on the boat paint,some are specific to wood,aluminum or steel.It would suck to put the work in and it start peeling off right away.I had to thin the truck and trailer paint in order to spray it.

wvabreeze · 07-08-2008, 07:57 PM

Well after making several attempts to get the clutch working I said the heck with it and started tearing the project down starting up front.

After pulling the engine I found this great idea someone had for attaching the motor mount.

I think I am going to start looking for a complete parts car now.I also discovered where someone welded the rear of the A frame mount to the crossmember.While this may not be a huge issue as it looks like a good weld,I still don't like the thought of suspension parts welded.Not sure why this was welded doesn't appear to be any damage.Soon I will be degreasing and pressure washing the engine bay.

DCOWBOYS1975 · 07-09-2008, 08:00 AM

I thought you were not pulling the engine? Man I wish I had a garage. Mine is having fuel delivery issues and feel like trading it off. I got a guy that has a jacked up burban he wants to trade. Who knows. Hey has that chick ever contacted you any more about your car??

Trey

wvabreeze · 07-09-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DCOWBOYS1975

I thought you were not pulling the engine? Hey has that chick ever contacted you any more about your car??

Trey

Not so much as a thanks for clearing things up on at least one car

The only reason I was getting it in drivable condition was to take it out and just burn the tires off and then tear it all apart.Since all the leaves fell off the money tree out back I figured I would start doing some time consuming stuff like cleaning up the engine bay,take all the seats and carpet out.By then I should have enough money built back up to have a floor pan put in it.One of the few things I am going to pay someone else to do.My old buzz box welder just blows threw sheetmetal.Thinking about getting some goodies for the engine while it's out.
I think it's gonna be a crappy summer for a vert this year anyway.Last month it rained 17 of 30 days and at least 5 so far this month.I've only gotten the Jeep out twice.I'm not even going to de-winterize the boat this year.

89RsPower! · 07-09-2008, 07:52 PM

the thing that really got me is that Kristy was looking for a white 1990 Iroc z.. that car is obviously RED.

wvabreeze · 07-09-2008, 08:13 PM

Yea I know what ya mean.About the only thing I know for sure about this car is that it's an 88.If she read my posts I stated I'm 99% sure it's not an Iroc either.Without original RPO codes who knows for sure,not enough info in VIN's.Oh well, I got the title back the other day and it's clear.

DCOWBOYS1975 · 07-10-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wvabreeze

Not so much as a thanks for clearing things up on at least one car

The only reason I was getting it in drivable condition was to take it out and just burn the tires off and then tear it all apart.Since all the leaves fell off the money tree out back I figured I would start doing some time consuming stuff like cleaning up the engine bay,take all the seats and carpet out.By then I should have enough money built back up to have a floor pan put in it.One of the few things I am going to pay someone else to do.My old buzz box welder just blows threw sheetmetal.Thinking about getting some goodies for the engine while it's out.
I think it's gonna be a crappy summer for a vert this year anyway.Last month it rained 17 of 30 days and at least 5 so far this month.I've only gotten the Jeep out twice.I'm not even going to de-winterize the boat this year.

Oh I know about rain. NORTHWEST!! Thats why I have decided to let you keep the vert, it rains too much here.

I know all about the $$$ tree. Someone actually cut mine down. As far as boats go I am getting ready to buy one. Wife wants one so that puts my Camaro on back burner for God knows how long. And I have to buy something to pull it. I found a Suburban I am going to buy . All lifted and what not.

DCOWBOYS1975 · 07-16-2008, 01:32 PM

Breeze, whats up dude no more work on the car??

wvabreeze · 07-16-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DCOWBOYS1975

Breeze, whats up dude no more work on the car??

Oh yea I been staying busy on it.I been stripping paint in the engine bay and the front panel behind the headlights.It takes so much time applying stripper letting it work and then scraping off the goo a few hours in the evening after work goes by fast.Under the black paint on the front panel is white paint.I don't know what this stuff is but airplane stripper takes 3 and 4 coats to cut it.The factory paint bubbles up and falls off practically.I know the stripper I'm using is good stuff,it burns through my gloves in just a few minutes.I'm just now making enough progress to be worthy of taking some picks.I'll try and remember to tomorrow night.I need to keep up with progress photos anyway,I may make a scrapbook of the project.I have found some damage from a wreck at some time.Appears to have been fixed properly cause I didn't find it until stripping paint and pulling the engine.I need to find a parts car cheep.I need some big dollar stuff that is usually in good shape on most cars.I need the front suspension crossmember,a drivers side floor board(which I knew was bad when I bought it)and a windshield.
Oh yea I stripped out the all the seats,carpet,seatbelts etc,everything but the main part of the dash.
The wife has been dropping heavy hints that we needed to go and hang out some, so last Saturday we went and watched some dirt track races.Think I better quit playing with the Maro so much before she cuts down her half of the money tree LOL!
Thanks for asking about the progress it helps keep me motivated.

wvabreeze · 08-13-2008, 09:00 AM

I have made some progress lately.Got the wife an old Honda for a work car,the Durango is costing a fortune in gas,it needed some work so I been busy on it for a couple of weeks.I had to get some bare metal primed while I make up my mind on what to do with the drivers side.Since I have a manual fuel pump I want to run the fuel line down the passenger side and probably take the steering box off and check for cracks behind it.Here are some more progress picks.

Floorboards aren't too bad,I've seen worse in our area.

I was pleasantly surprised when taking the carpet up in the trunk.

That's about it so far while I save up for the next round of stuff I need.

DCOWBOYS1975 · 08-13-2008, 09:34 AM

Well bro it's hard to say this but sometimes it happens. The Camaro is going up for sale. I bought a family car so I am selling this because no sense in keeping it in storage for God knows how long. I will keep in touch and be following this thread so when I do get another Maro I can follow your steps. ---------------- Now playing: Guns N' Roses - Paradise City via FoxyTunes

wvabreeze · 08-13-2008, 11:29 AM

Yea keep in touch.There will always be another car come up eventually,family stuff always comes first.I know how you feel selling though,I still have a sore spot towards the ex wife for talking me into selling a very sweet Mach-1 so we could remodel the house and that was 15 years ago.I'll never be able to replace that one.As winter approaches my progress will slow down even more.It's way too expensive to heat a 46x60 garage.My job requires me to work in the cold most of the day,I'm not going to get cold anymore than I have to,gettin to old for that crap!