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Old 03-25-2009, 08:43 AM   #1
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(non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

I am hoping that this would become a sticky. What I would like to do here is have one or two posts for each of the different types of Convertible Conversions.

There were at least a dozen companies that made 3rd Gen convertibles, and they seem to be growing.

I DO NOT WANT THIS TO BE A POST FEST, with stupid comments like, "That is cool," or, "I want one of those," etc. This is purely for Historical purposes.

By far the most popular is ASC Firebirds Produced by ASC from 1987 - 1989 Prior to production. Identical to the Camaro year for year, except for some minor cosmetic treatments.

If anyone has pictures of other conversions, please feel free to post them. The intent of the thread is to have an abbreviated listing and some pictures showing each known type.

82 - 1986 ASC Camaro convertibles Source ASC (from article in Chevy enthusiast )
173 - 1987 ASC Firebird convertibles - Source ASC
104 - 1988 ASC Firebird convertibles - Source ASC
330 - 1989 ASC Firebirrd convertibles - Source ASC (Note Dealer order logs have only 324)
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Old 03-25-2009, 08:46 AM   #2
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

The next most popular would be the Autoform Convertibles. Unique with its 2 seat approach.
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Old 03-25-2009, 08:47 AM   #3
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

Here is some Hi-Line Convertibles

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Old 03-25-2009, 08:49 AM   #4
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

Matrix3 Convertible
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

International Coach Builders
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Old 03-25-2009, 08:52 AM   #6
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

John Greenwood Convertible

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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

Straman Convertible

One thing I will note is that Stramman was actually one of the few companies to continue doing conversions after ASC got into the game.
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Old 03-25-2009, 08:55 AM   #8
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

Custom Automotive Restyling (CAR)
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Buffalo Conversions Corp

I wish there was a better pic of this one...
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Old 04-13-2009, 04:31 PM   #10
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

Coach Conversions, Inc.
1983 Firebird (from Craigslist)
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Old 12-30-2009, 03:09 PM   #11
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

How do you tell if a camaro convertible is factory or custom? I have a 84' berlinetta conv. and would like to know.
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Old 01-01-2010, 01:52 PM   #12
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

Anything prior to 1987 is a "Custom". ASC started doing "Official" conversions for 1987.

If I had to guess your car appears to be a Matrix3 conversion...
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thanks for the info,
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

the 6 digit on your vin it will be either 1-2-or 3
the #3 is a planned
1 is a hard top
2 is a t top
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

Question about a Matrix 3 conversion. Would the top be different than an ASC conversion? What overall would be different? Were they done prior to the ASC conversions in 86 or afterwards just by Matrix 3?

Interested because I am looking at buying the 84 on here.
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

the fabric will fit on any top Matrix{III} there is no remarks when you order a new top replacement. With this in mind one will asume that all manufactures had copied the ASC designe

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Question about a Matrix 3 conversion. Would the top be different than an ASC conversion? What overall would be different? Were they done prior to the ASC conversions in 86 or afterwards just by Matrix 3?

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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

But if Matrix III did 1984 conversions wouldn't it be different than ASC or did ASC copy it. I was looking at one Matrix III and it looked like it had velco on the back part. Maybe it was an illusion.
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Re: (non factory) 3rd Gen Convertibles

Yes Matrix would probably be different than any other top, I suspect that each company made their own tops, and their own frames... so you probably will have to make something to fix a frame, and any good upholstery shop should be able to make you a replacement top from the top you have...

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the 6 digit on your vin it will be either 1-2-or 3
the #3 is a planned
1 is a hard top
2 is a t top
There was no 1, T-tops were not indicated by the VIN, either you have a coupe (2) or a convertible (3) keep in mind that is for 1987 and after, from 1982 thru 1986 IIRC the 6th and 7th digit are as follows:

1982 thru 1986 - 87 = the coupe, 67 = a Convertible.

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