Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Cooling
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-29-2009, 05:45 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 65

Classifieds Rating: (0)
primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

hey. it never turns on automatically, via temps. ran some tests, here we go. wiring diagrams don't tell me what i want to know.

Test / results

AB diagnostic terminals jumped - both fans operate
jump primary fan relay - primary fan operates
grounded coolant temp sensor - no fan operation

i have 20ms voltage coming from the black wire, and it was about 4 volts coming off of the yellow wire with the key on.

from the wiring diagrams it looks like grounding the yellow wire would turn on the fan, but i can't tell what's going on in the ECM. i just see yellow as the power, black wire going all over the place to multiple sensors then back to the ECM. anyways, i grounded both terminals and neither turned the fan on.

any guesses at what to look for? i'm lost, if that part of the ECM is toast i'll just throw a switch in there for that primary fan. can't think of anything besides the ECM being at fault here.

1989 IROC
__________________
A merry heart makes a cheerful countenance. - Proverbs 15:13

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. - 1 John 1:9
ChoobinatoR is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2009, 12:12 AM   #2
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 65

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

10 looks no replies, guys must be just as stumped as me.
ChoobinatoR is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2009, 01:30 AM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 65

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

tested both coolant wires for continuity from CTS to ECU, both checked out less then an ohm.

pulled ECU, no signs of anything blown up.

fans turn on while i pull codes, so can i rule out a faulty computer circuit or not yet?
ChoobinatoR is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 11:38 PM   #4
Member
 
b4ccamaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mesa, Az
Posts: 173
Car: 92 1LE B4C
Engine: 350
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

If I remember right, you need to ground the green wire with a white stripe on one relay and the grey wire on the other one to get thefans to turn on on demand. Give that a try so you can rule out the relays
b4ccamaro is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2009, 11:41 PM   #5
Member
 
b4ccamaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mesa, Az
Posts: 173
Car: 92 1LE B4C
Engine: 350
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

I have the wiring diagrams for a 1992 if you need them. they should be the same.
b4ccamaro is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2009, 02:25 AM   #6
Member
 
Wezzeles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 108
Car: Camaro
Engine: L03

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to Wezzeles
Re: primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

b4c

when you say ground the green wire with the white stripe, what does the grounding exactly mean?

and if the fan does come on when i ground that green/white wire, then does that mean the relay is good or bad?
Wezzeles is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2009, 04:50 PM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 65

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

Wezzles, disconnect the relay so you can see the connector terminals. use a jumper wire across the two wires.

this shows you that the fans will work, if you take the relay out of the equation by grounding the fans manually.

typically if the fans never come on, but they come on when you do what b4c has stated then it means a bad relay... but in my case this was not the problem.

by the way, i took out my ECU, looked at it, put it back in and both fans seem to work now.
ChoobinatoR is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2009, 11:29 AM   #8
Member
 
b4ccamaro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mesa, Az
Posts: 173
Car: 92 1LE B4C
Engine: 350
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 4th gen 3.42

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

If you do it my way and the fan comes on, then the relay works. If it doesn't come on, then do what Choobinator said and that will bypass the relay. If the fan comes on then, then you know you have a bad relay.
b4ccamaro is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 07:40 PM   #9
Member
 
Wezzeles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 108
Car: Camaro
Engine: L03

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via AIM to Wezzeles
Re: primary coolant fan inop - my tests:

i tried jumping the ab connector under the dash and the fans didnt come on.
i tried grounding the green/white stripe wire to a metal bolt in the engine bay and the fans didnt come on.
when i grounded the wire that goes into the fan switch under the passenger manifolds, then the fans do come on.
also i did all this with the ignition on and i did check the fan fuse under the dash.
when i ground the other two connectors in the relay to the black ground wire, then the fans do come on.
also my car has the single fan.
__________________
1992 Camaro V8
Wezzeles is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2009, 07:40 PM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > Cooling

Tags
1987, 1990, 1997, 89, 92, camaro, coolant, cooling, fan, fans, gen, inop, iroc, location, relay, reley, ss
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details