So I can call them up monday afternoon and order it?

C'mon guys. Looks like we need one more to jump on the bandwagon.

The group buy has closed Contact Innovate to purchase
I can start another group buy if enough are interested

If you were on the list You should have recieved an email with the contact information to purchase your wideband.
Thanks!

I just got off the phone with Cort and my order is in.

Come on guys lets get with it as I need the WB-O2 now because I have the B4C running and need to do some PE tuning.


Thanks Austin. :hail:

I ordered today as well. Let's all get this ball rolling so they can ship this week...

I need to get this HSR'd 385 some high end fueling!!!

Thanks for organizing this Austin. Sounds like the units should be shippied out later this week. Can't wait to get mine! :lala:

Mine's ordered.. I don't think all of the orders need to be placed before they are shipped.. I ordered mine yesterday and Cort acted like no problem it will be shipped right away.

I also ordered an output cable for $8. I plan on using the code modification to datalog O2 voltage with the ALDL

Ummmm .... good luck with that. The code modification was written based on the L1H1 sensor's voltage output ... not the Bosch's output. The AFRs will not be accurate if you use the code modifcation unless you modify the values that correlate AFR to voltage.

Tim

I think you can do that internally in the LM1.... The outputs are programmable .

The better thing to do is to obtain an AFR vs. Voltage graph of the Bosch sensor via Innovative .... and then modify the binary file to include those voltages instead of the L1H1 voltages.

BTW - You'll definitely want to be able to insert or remove the code modification at will. Having the code mod triggers the SES light to illuminate for no apparent reason. It's kinda nice because it lets me know that I am running the hacked binary with the WB ALDL output. It just sux when you have to bring all your recent table and constant changes over to the 'street' binary file.

Tim

My order is in. Thanks to AustinT.

I asked this question in an earliar post but no one had much to say

I think I understand what you are saying. I've seen the O2 graphs before, voltage vs. AFR. Like Matt said, the voltage is adjustable, but your point is that that relationship is not linear and will be different between the Bosch (IM) and the L1H1 (diy).

So what has to be done? I'm going to think out loud here:

Get the voltage vs. afr graph from innovative and use Excel to generate a mathematical equation to represent afr vs. voltage? Then put that equation in the code?? What was done for the current data log bin?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if nothing else I can data log just voltage (and not AFR) and that would be almost as useful.

Thanks,
Austin

BIG_MODS,

No, that's not what I am saying. First - the relationship for both the L1H1 and the Bosch sensor are both pretty much linear.

What I am saying is that you need to compare Mike's AUJP against a stock AUJP and then compare that to the L1H1's voltage vs. AFR graph. Mike incorporated these values directly via a lookup table. A given voltage equals a particular AFR. You need to change the AFRs in the BIN to equate the posted mV to the AFRs of the Bosch graph.

I probably made this sound more difficult than it really is. Basically it's just a 2D table like any other 2D table. You just need to determine how Mike implemented it and then change the values accordingly.

Tim

Ok well I'll have to look into this alot since i have no source code experience. I'm sure I'll have alot of questions later.

Thanks

Do I have time to order one?

Email AustinT and see what he says, but I think that it is closed. He did say he would do the GP again if there is enough interest. I am sure all of us who are getting the WB will post results after some use. I plan to take mine to the Dyno and see how it compares to one of the big, nasty, expensive ones the dyno guys use. I expect it to be very close. Anyway, email Austin and see what he says...

My order is in. Thanks to AustinT.

Ordered mine today.

Did anyone get theirs yet? I ordered mine a week ago monday and Cort said it would be here on Wed or Thursday of last week. I'm not in a huge hurry to get it, but I'm just a little concerned that it may be lost.

I order mine first thing that monday and I still have not got it yet, I really hope it gets here before this weekend as I really need it.

I ordered on Monday along with you guys. They said they were hoping to ship by weeks end. I don't know if they wait until all orders are in before they ship. I do not expect to see the sensor though until late this week. If on Thurs. is does not arrive I will call on Fri. morning and see what the scoop is.

Who has recieved Their wideband. I just got mine, it was shipped friday (California to Utah) I would think everbody should have theirs by Friday,

By the way I had the chance to try mine today. The Holley Is to rich 12.5 at idle and cruise. The powervalve will richen it up to 11
and it runs 10.5 at full throttle. Im happy with it!!!

I am trying to tune my holley with the Wideband If you have any suggestions please see my post in the carb board
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...hreadid=209197

Thanks

UPS left a note on the door saying they tried to deliver it today, but no one was home at that time, I called them ad it will be here tomorrow.

The one WB I just got from PLX shows the Bosch sensor output as a straight line. .1v being 10:1 and 4.7 20:1.

Very different then the DIY-WBs.

I'd kinda ignored this thread, but did you guys all buy one before anyone did any testing of it?.

I got mine just now... 3:30pm Nov 6...

Have fun everyone...

http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...hreadid=204313

I guess that is the most reasearch that was done.

I just got mine and began reading the operating manual. It says that this sensor can be used in place of the factory narrow band!! Whewww hoooo!

I believe that I have a single wire O2, it says just hook the output of the LM-1 to that wire and thats it!

I didn't think that this was possible.

Well it turns out that this isn't exactly what I expected... It is still used as a narrow band for the ECM (i initially thought it was used as a WB). Why couldn't it be used as a Wide Band?

How is the IM WB working out for everyone that bought one?

I am planning on purchasing one myself, and was interested in some honest feedback.

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine, that bought one a little over a month ago.
Still's working, and compared to his other one, it seems accurate. He's not thrilled with the display, but the data logging works well.

Have not had time to try it out yet.

Has anyone had problems loading the software of the CD to your computer? The CD will auto run and brings up the screen to pick were you want it to load but when I click OK it just brings that screen back up.

Tried it on my desktop and my laptop, both are running win 98.

I am having the exact same problem with the CD. I printed the instruction manual off the net, but I have not found the time to read it yet. I was hoping to have some time to play with the WB at work today, but that fell through as well. Dam people breaking their cars on Friday and wanting them fixed in time for Saturday!!!

I hope to find some "tuning" time next week. Will tell how I feel about it then. Right now I am a little ticked about the software not loading...

Maybe one of us should call IM and see what the dilly yo...


Oh yeah, my unit was also shipped with the power switched on so the battery was dead!! No biggie though...

I sent them an email about it today but it was late and I probable will not hear back from them until Monday.


I tried copying all the soft wear to an empty folder to see if that would work, no luck so far.

The Cd worked OK for me. I just opend up the cd drive and loaded it on the computer.

WOW

I got it to work.

This is what I did, I made a folder on my desktop, then put the CD in, then I canceled the auto run and then opening explore I copied all the files and programs one at a time and pasted them in the folder I made.
I tried to copy all of them at the same time but that does not work, just do them one at a time.

I then clicked on the installLM1 icon and it worked, took only a few seconds to load, the demo is cool, now if it will stop raining I can go test it all out.

What Operating Systems are you guys running? What kind of systems are these? (thinkin this info might help others that also have problems)

Desktop = Dell XPS T-500 PII windows 98.
Laptop Dell PII 500 windows 98.

I will try what you did Z Ghost...

My system is an old Toshiba laptop running Win 98...


It works now, thanks Z Ghost!!

We now have 4 people for the second group buy.
Thanks

Depending on when it happens and what the price is, i could be interested in one of these myself. Drop me an email (ed@thirdgen.org) or PM when you're getting close.

I got the unit from the first group purchase and I very happy with it. I am interested on getting the auxiliary input cable #2, can we get a price break on that?

Have any of you got the exhaust clamp or the rpm converter yet I have emailed Cort several times and called no response about either. I also had problems with the disc CORT emailed me the install program I installed it works fine now.

I dont know of a group buy for the auxiliary input cables but I will find out.
Thanks

I spoke with Innovate, currently they do not have a group buy for the auxiliary input but in the close future there could be one.

I would like to get in on the wide band purchase.

I just registered today but I have been reading the posts on this site for sometime now. thanks to the diy prom board for helping me make the ramjet manifold work good! now I want to dial it in a little closer.

Poncho you have pm

Ajones...I am curious as what you needed to do to get the 730 ECU and RamJet to work.

I am have future plans for a RamJet engine.


How did you get the TPS and IAC to work with the 730 ECU?

Can you detail your install either on a post of via email?

We now have 7 for the group buy. I can end it any time you want or we can wait for 10 people, Your call 2nd Group buy participants
Thanks

The second group buy will end Friday Dec 5th
Thanks

The second group buy will end Dec 15th
You will be able to order as soon as you email me until the 15th

Is it too late to get in on this. If not, I am definetely in. I know this is last minute, but I just saw this thread and I have had my eye on this unit. Get back to me.

I would be interested if a 3rd group buy is started.