The Next group buy will be sometime during the Latter part of February, Email me to get on the List Thanks Feb 04, current group buy list [/list[list=1][*]Dean Melchior[*]Jim Mueller[*]Jerry Meyer[*]John[*]amy Lippencott [*] Larry Westbrooks[/list=1] The following people Are on the list for a 3rd group buy, If you are interested and are not on the list, email me your name and I will add you. This group buy will end January 9. 1.Gordon Haveron 2. Ian Cole 3. Brian Blanc 4. Walt Johnson 5. Mike Terzo 6. Luis Miranda 7. Frank Mowry 8. Ed Cheal 9. Mike To join the group purchase for the Innovate wideband 1. reply to this post and indicate you want to be part of the group purchase 2. email me at gofast_89@hotmail.com and give me A. your username B. your name C. your email [list=1][*]Va454ss[*]Big_Mods[*] Gary Anderson[*] Z_Ghost[*] 92 zzz28[*] BV1[*]farrenator[*] Tad[*]John Lehman[*]David Bradley[*]Justin[/list=1] The 10 unit discount has been reached! Everyone on the list above should have recieved an email with Innovate Motorsports contact Info If you did not get the contact info here it is: Cort Charles Director of Sales Innovate! Motorsports 27132A Paseo Espada, Suite #401 San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675 (949) 388-4442 ext.122 (949) 388-3779 Fax www.tuneyourengine.com Group buy has closed Thank You! IGroup buy # 2 A couple of people have shown intrest In another group buy so if you missed out on the first one here you go: Again email me with A. your username B. your name C. your email Rsilver eric305tpi Dr G Lonnie67 IROCZZ383 Allan Jones Shawn The 2nd group buy will end December 15th . Email me and I will add you to the list and give you a discount code that you can enter when you order at the Innovate Motorsports website

Here is the price break

The Lm-1 (349 Retail) Group Buy has two price break levels.
5 units 334 + free UPSG shipping ($25 savings)
10 units 324 + free UPSG shipping ($35 savings)

thats great pricing im in. includes the lsu4 sensor correct. always use a back up wb.

Yes that comes with the sensor. Here is a link to their website
www.innovatemotorsports.com

Any other questions just ask, I called innovate today just to get some info on the WB. Also in the support of their website are some links to other forums concerning the WB

Count me in. How do we pay?

Bill

I'm in. Is there anymore price breaks? I can see more than 10 people buying them.

Im pretty sure 10 units is the largest price break they offer I will call again in the moring and let you know. I also think we will get the 10 units easily

You will pay Innovate at the end of the group buy. This will depend on how quickly we get enough guys to reach the price breaks

Thanks

Im sorry Guys I am not able to put together the Group buy because I am advertiser on thirdgen. The group buy would have to be sponserd by one of our advertisers

that gets a big thumbs down from me, non of our sponsers even sell anything closely resembling a WBO2 unit


if this does somehow get going, depending on the timing i would be interested. money is real tight for me right now, as i am buying another car.

Sorry its my fault for not approving it with thirdgen before I jumped in and tried to start a group Purchase. If one of our sponsors wanted to Host the group buy It could still go through

ohhh i apreciate the effort you put into this.

TGO gets the thumbsdown. it isn't like any of our sponsers are going to lose out on a dime because some people GP WBO2's

run the group buy off the board diy style

What do you mean? If you mean where the purchaser deals directly with Innovate that is how it would be now. Any body that would have praticpated would be on a list that I would have sent to Innovate. At the end of the group buy Each person would have been responsible for calling Inovate and buying a wideband at the reduced price. Innovate would look at the list and see if your name was on the list, Qualifying you for the group discount

use your Email box as the contact point.

Ok The Group Purchase will go on. I will put together a simple website non affiliated with thirgen where you can enlist for the group purchase. I will put a link in this forum where you can find the webpage.
This has been approved with TGO
Thank you TGO!

There is no problem running this GP on thirdgen.org! You aren't directly competing with the sponsors and I have no problems with you running it here.

Hi Dirk, From all of us, Thank you .
Was it you that I emailed earlier today? Are you the (webmaster)?

Thanks!!!

Let the group purchase begin!

To join the group purchase for the Innovate wideband
1. reply to this post and indicate you want to be part of the group purchase
2. email me at gofast_89@hotmail.com and give me
A. your thirdgen username
B. your name
C. your email

I will then add you to the list
Thanks

You see? I don't lock everything

Tim

I bet your were thinking about it
Thanks Tim,

Funstick, You still in

What do you guys think about the Auxiliary Input Solutions to complement the LM-1?

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/aux2.php

I think the Auxiliary Input Cable #1 for $25 is something that should be considered.

The guy on the phone said that it isn't available for another week or 2, but I think it would be very helpful data log O2 with rpm and MAP, amongst other things. The way it sounds you’d have to tap into the wires for the ecm to capture these inputs. The guy on the phone said Aux Cable #2 and 3 would not benefit on our cars since our ecm already gets these signals.

But is this needed? I know some people are working on using some unused wires going into the ecm and changing source code to allow for data logging WB O2 voltage along with the standard data from the ALDL.

Wide Band O2 Datalogging - Testing of new code

If this is done the cable wouldn’t be needed, but it seems like this plan isn’t totally worked out and I don’t know how easy it would be to get it to work.

What do you guys think? Go with the Aux cable or try the code modification. Or do both? The cable is only $25.

I want one, so count me in.

I do not have a set end date for the group purchase. We dont want to leave anyone out. At the same time, we dont want to drag this out.
Do Any of you know of other car forums we could inform about the group Purchase?

I can post a link to here on 2 other boards.
NTTGA (thirdgen club board)
and
www.gmperformance.org/

Thanks Z_Ghost

Should help us reach the 10 units

Austin,

Did you get my request? If not count me in also.

Regards,
Gary Anderson

Yes you are on the list Gary. The list is at the top of this post

Thanks

I would like to get in also, but it is kind of a cash thing right now. How long do you think this group buy would last? Or do you think we could get the discount down the road, just by mentioning the TGO?

Hey AUstin,

I just sent you an email. Count me into!!!

I am severely tempted with this...... But I am leary of its accuracy.... Anybody know of any verified testing that has been done with this? Real world results? Comparisons to WBO2s from dynos/other portable WBO2s?

I will do some looking myself when I get a chance but I would like to know more if anybody else (like the DIY EFI experts ) has any insight...

Does anyone know if this unit has an output for an aftermarket DFI?

For those of you who want to know when the Group Purchase will end. I think we will end it a week from friday. Friday the 24th
Thanks

Come on guys!

Sure would be nice to get ten and the additional price break.

Bill

For anyone that has been shopping for a WB or been considering one, now is the time to act. If you are concerned with accuracy and quality, or interested in hooking it up to an aftermarket computer, call the company and see what they have to say.

The price is right. Let's get on it...

I will say the service is top notch, I purchased this unit during the summer when it first came out. The unit didn't work, but I called them up and received a new one in less than 22 hrs, plus a return mailing sticker. Think about that, I'm in FL and they are in CA. 22 hrs.

I haven't really had the time to mess with it much, but it gave me 12.5-12.8 at WOT(three 4-8 sec runs) and would cycle from 14.5-15.1 (don't remember exactly) at part throttle. Good enough for me not to worry about tuning at WOT for a while.

IIRC open air was either ~19% or 20%(whatever they said it should be), and dropped to less than 10% when exhaled on, just something stupid I remember while calibrating the unit.

That is pretty impressive . Even more tempting now......

count me in

Come on, jump on the bus!!!

Where are you guys (probably we ) at now for people? I think funstick said he wanted one too which puts it at about 7-8 I think before me.....

I put a link up on the MNFBC site and will put one on the local stang site too....

Make sure you email Austin your info. You may have already, and he just hasn't updated the list yet. Either way, I just want to make sure this thing happens...

I Emailed Innovate asking for some tech info on how it compares to other pieces of equipment and they pointed me to a few links.... LOTS of info here, haven't had time to digest all of it :

http://www.miataforum.com/cgi-bin/ul...=1;t=021049;p=

and

http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=227021

and here for some pics of it in action:

http://lagunamiata.home.att.net/lm-1.htm

Just posted a link over on Chevytalk.com's EFI board. Seriously thinking about one for my self as well.

Just putting it back up top...

Gonna have to count me out on this for now... I just discovered that my Brodix heads and SLP headers don't get along very well so I am taking the long tube plunge (Hooker 2210s) and have no idea what it is going to end up costing me to get them all dialed in with some sort of Y-pipe for my setup....

Sorry guys, good luck .

Don't expect the 2210's to be trouble free either! Ask me how I know

Oh I know... The Y-pipe is going to be a huge PITA.... My plan is to build my own crossmember that makes way for the pipes and then have a custom Y-pipe made. And I have read up on the clearancing of the K-member where the LCAs bolt on.... I already have a ministarter and have ditched the oil cooler... The knock sensor is already on the left side too...

Anything else you can think of????? Are you running standard small block angle plug heads? That is where the problem with my SLPs came in... They only work on L98 angle plug heads. I pretty much knew that going into this but just never mentally put it together until I tried to mock them up on the stand after I pulled the 355 out and had the headers out of the car. I would have had to nearly collapse the #5 and #6 primaries to clear the #7 and #8 plugs.... The #5 plug hit too....

The worst part of the story is that I, like the dumba$$ I can be, thought I could massage the primaries a little and make them work..... So the SLPs are not exactly going to fetch much on the resale market

*sorry for the thread hijacking

I had to practically cut the RF lower rear a arm bracket off & refabricate a new one. A standard length spark plug will not fit in the #7 hole of my AFR straight plug 195 heads. Had to make my own shorty plug. I made my own y pipe after finding out the Mufflex one I bought would not clear the Spohn crossmember. The rest is too painful to recall The good news is everything now works. Check out my web page for pics.

Yeah, that sucked!!!

Hi, The closing for the Innovate group purchase will be Monday Morning. I will Call Innovate First thing Monday and end the group purchase. I was going to end it friday But I feel it will be benificial to go to monday Morning. It would be next week before they could ship anyways. also it gives us a better chance for the 10 unit discount
Thanks everbody!