I've have several people inquiring about ecm test bench boards. Here's what I would like to do to.. I'm going to open a limited time to place an order for a bare board and instructions and parts list. At the end of the period, I will order the boards, which takes approx two weeks for the board house to send me a batch of boards. If you would like a board, and don't mind waiting a couple weeks, by all means please order. The cost will be $55 shipped to you. Note that this is for bare boards only, no parts or assembled boards will be made available. I will be taking orders til Dec 14. At that time I will place the order according to how many participate. You can contact me at rawardsr@ameritech.net Please put Test Bench in the Subject. I take money orders and paypal at that email addy. Thank you. Bob

Yehaa, Doc's just thrilled with the idea of having more ecms, a cookin.....
He's gonna be starting on a new project in 05, and I was dredding having to share ecm benchs with him, ya ya ya, I know I already have 3.

Thanks Bob. I'm placing the order!

Tim

So Tim, does this mean you are running SyTy code in your subaru, and need an ECM bench to work on it?

I'm placing my order too.

Oh ... if I could, I would. Subaru enthusiast solutions for reprogramming the ECM are just about non-existant. One solution, EcuTek is only available to specially chosen performance shops and costs thousands of dollars. These shops charge a $700 fee to reflash your ECU and another $150 everytime after that. Insanity. The only other solution for reprogramming the stock ECM is from Cobb Tuning. However, they currently only allow reprogramming with one of their maps. They should be releasing their 'street tuner' package sometime soon that will allow changes to the basic tables/constants. However, at $1100+ it isn't cheap. Those are the only 2 solutions for reprogramming the stock ECU ... and, in all actuality, Cobb is the only one allowing the user to reprogram their stock ECU (and it isn't even available yet). The rest of the market is piggy-back ECMs that intercept the ECM's signals and modify them. No thank you. No way to get the SyTy to work with a Sube car given the new OBDII requirements of CVN, VIN, etc. Plus, with ECM controlled valve actions, drivetrain functionality integrated into the stock ECM (DCCD with lateral G sensor, yaw control, etc) the SyTy just wouldn't cut it except for the most basic operations.

I'm interested in the bench board because I still help friends on the side and I am still interested in the GM code. I'll have another 730 or 749'd car one day. The bench is important.

Tim

Update 11/29/04

So far I've got 6 boards confirmed and paid.

Thanks all. Bob

Update: 12/11/04

Only a few days left before I order a batch.. Get yours today before this once in a lifetime offers ends!

Have ~ 10 boards confirmed. Thanks all. Bob

Order placed. There are a few extras for those that procrastinated... Bob
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This confirms your order with ExpressPCB. Your order has been received and it has been submitted for manufacturing.

Your order number is: DUNN3278
The file submitted is: GMECMBenchRev6.pcb

Your order was quoted by the ExpressPCB layout program as requiring 10 full business days for manufacturing. The shipping method for your order is Second Day Air which takes 2 business days.
Your order was received on Wednesday after our 2PM ET deadline so it enters our manufacturing queue on Thursday. Adding on the 12 business days results in an ontime delivery date of Thursday, 1/6/2005 and should arrive before the end of the day.

Thank you for doing business with ExpressPCB.

Regards, support@expresspcb.com

Bob,

I'm a 'procrastinator', by all accounts, but would be interested if you have a spare.

Also, if you want, I could convert your layout to something more portable (Eagle/Gerber) if you like. That way in the future you wouldn't be 'married' to the ExpressPCB folks.

Hey Craig, Yeah I ordered extras. At this point there are 4-5 available.

Sure, if you want that would be great. Thanks, Bob

Craig I have to argue with that. When it comes to customer service, you don't procrastinate at all.


I, however, tend to wait until 3 weeks after the last minute to do anything. Can I still get one, Saturn?

So, I imagine the boards should be back from expressPCB any day now, eh? I wonder if they slow down around the holidays.

I'm anxious to get soldering With an ECM up and running in the house, I might just have to invest in an emulator setup from craig....

it's amazing how many options there are out there now!

:lala:

I hope you have an extra one for me, Just let me know when to send the money.

Jerry

Bob,

If you have a spare, my friend and I may be interested in sharing one. We live in the same town.

Dominic

Sure can.. Bob

You have mail.

Boards where here when I got home tonight.

A quick count of paid boards make for 5 extra as of this post.

I have to printo out all the notes and parts list and get everything ready to mail, probibally Saturday. Thanks to everyone who jumped in.

Cheers, Bob

PayPal sent.


Thanks Bob.

This is my current list. All boards will be shipped out Monday via USPS or UPS depending on location.

Thanks again, Bob

Thanks for the update.

Jerry

It's been a while since I've had time to play with Delco's, but having you run some more boards is a good motivator to get back into it. Paypal sent. Thanks for making some extras.

John

Got mine today, looks like I'll be sniffing solder fumes.
Thanks for the great service, Bob.

Mine made it this morning too. It'll be next week before I have the cash to order components though.....

Bob,

Got the board today. Excellent quality. Look forward to playing with the board.

Thats great everyone.

Craig, yours went out today. John, yours tomorrow. Thanks, Bob

Thanks a bunch. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Got my boards friday they look great, now I just have to wait for the digi-key order to show up.

Thanks

Pending a couple sales in the works.... Their gone.

Thanks all. Have fun while it's cold. <G> Bob

Cold! It's 8*C (46F) out here.

Did ya get my paypal?

Yes and it was 1*F this morning... Cold. Officially the coldest week of winter typically.. for around here. Tho.. February gets mighty nippy too. Did I mention its cold here? Bob

Bob,

Got the board and it looks great.

The local 1/4 mile (California speedway) opens this weekend so I will need to find my jacket, the low will be in the 50s and the day time high will be 80

Jerry

Bob,

Board arrived Tuesday. Thanks for making this available! I ordered the parts yesterday so hopefully I'll have the bench up and running in a couple of weeks.

Brent

IF YOU DO ANOTHER BATCH. i'D ABSOLUTLY LIKE TO BUY ONE .
THANKS
ED

I two would like one if there is another buy.

John Maxwell

How many of you have your boards up and running.

My one will not link to Datamaster. I have the orange wire from A-8 on the ECM to J4 pin #4 on the board. The injector LED flash and the other LEDs work but no ALDL link.

Jerry

Is this the right pinout for this board and a 1227730 ECM with a AUJP prom.

J1-1 to C-8
J1-2 to D-8
J1-3 to C-7
J1-4 to D-9
J1-5 to B-5
J1-6 to A-4
J1-7 to F-15
J1-8 to F-13
J1-9 to B-6
J1-10 to A-5

J2-1 to C-9
J2-2 to E-16
J2-3 to F-16
J2-4 to C-6
J2-5 to D-16
J2-6 to Power in 12V
J2-7 to Power in 12V
J2-8 to B-1
J2-9 to C-16
J2-10 to Extra 12V out

J3-1 to A-6
J3-1 to D-12
J3-1 to F-7
J3-1 to E-9
J3-1 to E-4
J3-1 to E-3
J3-1 to E-8
J3-1 to E-6
J3-1 to E-5
J3-1 to F-6

J4-1 to C-11
J4-2 to F-7
J4-3 to C-12
J4-4 to A-8
J4-5 to A-12
J4-6 to D-1
J4-7 to D-6
J4-8 to D-7
J4-9 to Extra Ground
J4-10 to Extra Ground

Jerry

I dunno about the 7730 pinout, but mine's been up and running with a 7727 for about a week now. It didn't work at first and I was irritated (worried I had fried something)....but then I realized I had my REFhi and EST wires crossed and now it's all good.

FWIW I don't use the bench's datalogging output. I have the ECM hooked up to a spare ALDL connector that I had in my box of "wiring stuff" so I can just hook my AutoProm to it and go, just like it was in a car. For some reason my MT2500 Strap-On scanner won't talk to it though....weird.

I did the same thing and all is fine now, Maybe someday I will figure out the onboard output.

Jerry

The onboard output is a version of the two transister type.

Need to have a serial cable thats wired pin to pin directly, and does not "cross-over". e.i. 1-1, 2-2 and so forth.

I only have used Freescan and TunerPro with the onboard aldl.

As always, you can wire in a ALDL plug and use different cables and software as you see fit.

Glad to see that other than some little bugga boos, it's working out.

Bob ...if another group buy is started, please add me to the list.
Very keen to get one.

Just in case it helps anyone, i soldered up a serial cable and used the ECM bench with craigs' software and it works great with his software as well.

I missed out on this again also, if you do another run, or if anybody has a spare let me know.

jeff@jsmanufacturing.com