Link and Thread Suggestions Needed for the Prom Burning Guide Book and FAQ - DIY PROM - Third Generation F-Body Message Boards

3.8TransAM · 03-27-2005, 03:02 PM

This is here as a reference to enable forum users to voice suggestions and post thread links for consideration into the Prom Burning Guide Book and FAQ (The Prom Tuning Guide Book and FAQ: Common Questions and Answers)

I need working links for Gurmpy's Tuning 101 and some for $60 code applications and threads as well as working links to both of the above.

Also trying to put together a vendor links listing in the appropriate chapters and also possibly a whole vendors addendum at some point.

We need your cooperation, as you all well know the "search function" is not exactly healthy at this point and time. Both Rbob and I have had issues attempting to find some old posts.

Please make sure you include a valid link when you post your suggestion, it will be appreciated and reviewed for inclusion.

Thank You
The Mod Squad

Denis.V · 03-30-2005, 08:00 AM

Hi Mod Squad,

I'd suggest an Introduction about reading, at first, what the car is doing previous to start with modifications. It only was my experiencie: I started with modifications before to scann the ECM.

For this Introduction you can extracts parts from the TRAX article and Craig Moates web site included in this guide.

Note that I don't know if this suggest is off topic because if the car owner agree with his car is doing, he don't needs this guide...

Denis V.

JP86SS · 04-01-2005, 05:42 PM

a.) Understanding your system and its parts

Maybe use http://www.chevythunder.com (my favorite)
and/or similar TPI/TBI sites

b.) Scan tools and seeing what is going on

http://www.supportfitness.com/mark/tunerpro/
http://www.ttspowersystems.com
Add others ....

c.) Identify your system control
http://www.diy-efi.org/gmecm/
http://www.cruzers.com/~ludis/p4xref.html
http://www.efitune.com/broadcast_codes/

d.) Links to information on processor
http://www.dewtronics.com/cgi-bin/motorola.pl?

e.) Links to Documents and Hacs ?
http://sunflower.com/~leroy/P4/
http://www.geocities.com/ecmguy.geo/bruce/prog_101.html (probly have that already)
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EDIT ADDED : http://www.diy-efi.org/gmecm/ecm_inf...730/qanda.html
nice writup that shouldn't be lost in the shuffle.
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f.) Links to file locations
ftp://ftp.diy-efi.org/pub/gmecm/bin_lib/
... Moates, and others

I don't know if putting specific link up is "allowed" or wanted because you may not want to seem like you're advertising for products.
Scan tool questions seem to come up too much for the subject. If there was a listing of as many or all known products, the user can choose and it wouldn't be biased.
Jp

3.8TransAM · 04-02-2005, 11:36 AM

Thanks JP86SS,

Thats exactly the kind of stuff we are looking for. We do plan on making as many links as possible work. Whether it be for commercial or freeware as long as said product is in good standing in the community we plan to include it and not play favorites. We already do since we are the DIY PROM board lol.

Thanks for the links, they will be checked out and reviewed and hopefully posted into the appropriate link/chapter.

Now, where is everyone elses wish list and articles? :-)

We know they are out there and with the search engine here at thirdgen of questionable health, we need your help.

later and thanks
Jeremy

Z69 · 04-03-2005, 12:45 AM

This one has a few good links in it. And I'll stop messing with my patch eventually and paste the code.
Tables

Good src info
Registers
Op Code maps

This may already exist. And I've never looked specifically for it. But there are a lot of what bcc ? posts.
A short list of what bin goes to what car might be helpful.
A general comment of "latest F body 350 A4" or similar maybe.

3.8TransAM · 04-03-2005, 03:53 PM

Anybody have a collection of links for all the differetn ALDL cables that are floating around?

Especially the wirign diagrams and troubleshooting charts for said connectors as well?

thanks
Jeremy

Keep ideas and links coming people, this wont happen overnite, but will continue to grow.

JP86SS · 04-17-2005, 01:03 AM

I did a search and just came across a nice writeup by Vader.
Seems like something that shouldn't be lost in the shuffle.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...hreadid=186463 (idle problem still persists)

Maybe rename it as "coolant temp" or something.

3.8TransAM · 04-20-2005, 01:42 AM

Just wanted to say thanks guys. We appreicate the input and while I have been adding material as I come across it and have time, I havent forgotten about the stuff in this link.

It will get categorized and added as I sift thru it and get time to paste it in the Guide Book

Added this week: All BCC(broadcast) codes from the FAQ are included so no one needs to ask what prom/chip is in my car.

Also Mangus excellent reply to some issues I was having w/ emulating/datalogging on one laptop and all the current options available.

Thanks
Jeremy

3.8TransAM · 04-26-2005, 01:13 PM

http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthre...hreadid=293764

MAF users the above post is for you.

All of Rbob's accumulate knowledge from his own posts on MAF setups here.

later
Jeremy

JP86SS · 04-27-2005, 07:25 PM

I think we've forgotten the obvious...

Where are the files !!!

http://www.moates.net/fileman/
ftp://ftp.diy-efi.org/pub/gmecm/bin_lib/
http://tunerpro.markmansur.com/ (under Downloads)

I'm sure there are others, These are the most familiar to me.

Z69 · 04-28-2005, 06:51 AM

I got this one e-mailed to me the other day for a searchable bin list.

bin search

HydraQuest · 04-29-2005, 03:40 PM

http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~dzug/92z2...0-vss4T56.html

Link to info on changing VSS for T56 swap.

3.8TransAM · 05-02-2005, 12:15 PM

Okay guys,

Added in the appicable stuff.

Thanks for the info and try to post up any new links or get threads you find in your journeys.

An few might go into either/or chaopter so make sure you check the whole Guide Book before you say I left it out :-)

thanks
Jeremy

Z69 · 05-05-2005, 05:02 AM

A couple links for crank fuel
Cold start ?

I didn't see this one in the final answer section
Start Routine Final answer

JP86SS · 05-06-2005, 07:55 AM

I have to say this has come together nicely

Much more informative and easy to find.
Good job guys.

3.8TransAM · 05-06-2005, 04:00 PM

Yes, well I , Rbob and Glenn certainly try lol

It was a pia to actually verify all the links as I added them and expanded the original stickies into chapters. Trax left us a good base to work of of and as we expand it, it will only get better.

If you have comments and link/thread suggestions, thats what this post is here for.

thanks to all those who contributed and for the kind words

later
Jeremy

Z69 · 05-13-2005, 06:03 AM

58 Egr fix (Betas Wanted for 60 work)

58 WB

3 Bar Patch

Could a Vats something be added?
Doubt it will cut down on the questions though

3.8TransAM · 05-14-2005, 03:35 PM

hmmm Some more nice posts to add :-)

When I get a cance this weekend consider them added.

If they are any concrete VATS posts i will link them, but be warned, we dont want to give away to much VATS inof if u catch my drift :-)

Hmm I'll also check about the wideband patches for the 165 and 730, but i think they are linked already.

later
Jeremy

Z69 · 05-18-2005, 04:28 AM

I don't know where to put this one.

Another Rbob jewel

And a good Vats post still proves to be MIA.
I did find a good "why would I?" post.
Stumble over them all the time while looking for other things.

3.8TransAM · 06-13-2005, 03:48 PM

Note to self:

Add this to sticky

http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthre...hreadid=303684

Warlock · 06-20-2005, 12:05 AM

Some links I am fond of:
Programming the 730
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...highlight=p730 (P730: Part Throttle Fuel Tuning (no PE))

http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...highlight=p730 (P730 - Octane Retard Routine and how to control it better)

http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...highlight=p730 (Tuning the Timing)

http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...highlight=p730 (WOT%Change to fuel/air ratio vs rpm question?)

Can I use the 730 stuff on a 165?

http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...ght=tuning+165 (Couple quick 165 tuning questions)

3.8TransAM · 06-21-2005, 04:00 AM

http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthre...hreadid=304866

note to self: excellent guide for tunerpro and table explanations.

JP86SS · 06-22-2005, 11:34 AM

This will come in handy and should be tossed in the 730 section.
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...hreadid=305477 (Launch Mode!)

Got me rethinking how to get some of that function into $8D (needs to be able to subtract SA as well though)

JP86SS · 06-26-2005, 10:56 PM

To go under the source code section
730 $8D I/O Addressing
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...01#post2150901

Couldn't find it when I was looking.

3.8TransAM · 06-27-2005, 03:18 PM

Update to current post :-)

thanks guys/gals.

Note: If u give me the original post name and link, I can add them quicker to the main tuning guide.

If not, it waits until one of us has the time to sort and check links with names, etc..

later
Jeremy

3.8TransAM · 06-29-2005, 02:20 PM

All updates of note included.

Added section for small amount of info that I can gather for the Computer Controlled Car (CCC) stuff

later
Jeremy

Warlock · 07-01-2005, 11:04 AM

Suggestion: Include the words "BCC" and "Broadcast Code" for the "Bin Search Engine". It took me a while to find the site in my old notes because I was not smart enough to look for "Bin"

3.8TransAM · 07-22-2005, 07:52 AM

Please do not post links of yours to add if they are already included in the sticky.

Lots of questions on socketing boards for flash chips lately.

Could you swing them up on here as you come acoss them so I can add them to the Guide?

thanks
Jeremy