I'm just starting to get into Prom Burning. I think this is excellent that we know have a big support group that can act as a safety net for me and others. I haven't bought any of the hardware for burning and erasing yet, but I am downloading TunerCat as I type this. The TunerCat software says it comes with $42 Cal. file. How can I get the $6E file? From the research I've done, I assume this is what I need. Thanks ------------------ Tom Milmont '89 Formula 350 13.4sec@101mph My Page

Ok, I just read the post below by Scott 88 GTA. Does TunerCat charge for different calibration files? I guess this is not an abundant thing like BIN files that everybody is passing around.

Need a little help here guys.




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Tom Milmont
'89 Formula 350
13.4sec@101mph
My Page

Yes, you need to buy your definition file from TunerCat. No other way around it unfortunately...

If you have a 42 tdf and the tunercat editor then you can load that and poke around and see what things look like and start asking some questions.

I think its a 30 day demo after that you need a registration number to use it.

It's about $100 for the registration number, and to get a particular tdf file.
Then I tink it's like $20 each for the different tdfs.

While I know a 100 seems like alot just a few years ago (before TC or GMEPro) they were over 300 and you hardly got anything.

You know you can just click "Reply to Topic" on the bottom of the thread instead of quoting every single message you reply to, right ?

[This message has been edited by Blade (edited November 11, 2000).]

TunerCat has pretty picture and I guess a cool name, but why bother when WinBin is free and user-definable? In the spirit of DIY, it seems like more fun to go in that way. Free software, fully functional. Maybe I'm missing something, but why is everyone so intoxicated by TunerCat? It really isn't THAT tremendous, certainly not I would think.

Am I missing something? Not TC-bashing here...

I think TunerCat is much easier to use then WinBin. Some of the field names in WinBin are so hard to understand I sometimes get frustrated and go back to TunerCat where everything is layed out nicely, with a graph, and pretty clear descriptions of what the different functions do.

Example: In winbin you'll see something like "VLO OCTANE KNOCK RETARD DECREASE AMT ??no conversion??" What the hell is that ?! LOL

[This message has been edited by Blade (edited November 11, 2000).]

It's quick, easy, and has support.
Once you get going, well, lots of guys start using the **wrong** (LOL) ecms in different applications, and doing friends cars, while winbin has a few .ecu files TC has many. I have many of his, GMEPro, and some *other* stuff and still run out of editors, and info.. I have editors (just counted)for 57 ecms / pcms and that's not enough.
If all you going to do is one car or two winbin and stuff like that is fine. But, once you get good with a system, it's second nature to navigate and transform to other stuff.
Like a good mechanic has a couple 1/2" sockets, doesn't hurt to gather stuff.
Editors are good karma

grumpy,
Did you ever get into the TTS version. Talk about plain....but they did the trick ...again at $300+ for each ECM.

I finally got the gmepro. spoke with terry on the phone a few times. there was a timing bug got the 90-91 epe file. he was a very nice guy.
on another note for tuners,
I mainly use GMpro for everything but fuel maps. I like the tuner cat graphing. you can slide the variables with the mouse
Dennis

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