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Old 05-09-2008, 09:29 PM   #1
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Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

Alright, so after doing way more reading than I ever expected to via the search button I still have a few questions.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a the mask $6E is the code. The only difference between BCC's are the values stores in tables constants and bits. My $32B is an ABUN which unfortunatly I have been unable to locate in order to get my current values (things like spark advance etc), but I have been going off another bin from the same year car as mine with the same transmission/engine. (The car runs with this other bin just fine).

In looking at both ARAP and APYP BCC files I have noticed that alot of the values from similar tables are WAY off from the $32B file I have. Can I just copy values from the $32B to the ARAP file I downloaded?

I do understand that I have to disconnect the CSI and switch "Cooling fan N/O REQ input" as well as disable VATS, but I'm still worried about the spark and fuel tables being far off enough to damage my engine.

I also saw "Single" and "Dual Fire FI Size @ 40 psig"

These show as 22lb/hr which iirc is the 350 size? Should I also change this to 19 to match the fact that I have a 305?

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Old 05-10-2008, 02:41 AM   #2
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

Why dont you just start with a 6E 305cui bin like ANYH?

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Old 05-10-2008, 05:42 AM   #3
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

Yeah, Go with ANYH thats a good bin for the 305
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:32 AM   #4
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

Where can I find that? Neither diy-efi.org or moates's fileman have that one. Upon doing a search for ANYH I found something that said it was superceded by APYM, and that one I can find. is that true?

Edit: Upon comparing the APYM tables to my $32B tables I've found that they are very close, infact slightly more conservative on things like spark advance even I may wind up giving this one a shot.

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Old 05-10-2008, 09:05 AM   #5
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Try that, if you still want the other anyh bin pm me and ill scan my stock memcal and give it to you.
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

APYM is a newer version of ANYH

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Old 05-10-2008, 12:43 PM   #7
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Yeah I compared them now, the only thing thats different in the 2 prom is the "PROM ID" everything else is the same..
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

I loaded the APYM and it worked perfectly (after I cranked a few times then remembered to disable VATS). It's raining slightly outside so I cant go full throttle without losing traction, but normal driving it seems to run a little better than the old $32B. I haven't disconnected my CSI because I need to find it, but its warm here so until it gets cold enough to activate it that shouldn't be a problem right?
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

I would think the 305 6E bin would be the same as the ARAP which has the CSI function deleted and provison for cold start fueling through the injectors built in.
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

You have to disconnect the CSI..
If you havent found it, this is it :


Just pull the power cable to it , and cover the connectors from dirt, and then youre ready to go
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

Just wondering for those that have tried it. What happens if CSI is not unplugged on the $6E.
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

Thanks for that picture Theking, I was actually just about to start searching for that.

vetteoz: the arap bin file has significantly different spark tables than the apym bin file

Edit: I haven't unplugged my CSI yet. I've heard that at below 40 degrees F, the engine will flood out.
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

Really dont know. But its safer to unplug IF there is an change of it getting power and opening, it could be open at all time smaybe and flood the engine. its real easy to unplug it. and everyone that I talked to, said that "unplug the csi" so..

If you got an CSI just unplug it and cover the conections.
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

Dont use the ARAP SA because its little rought.
its high in some places, use the APYM SA instead, and adjust for your car.
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

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Just wondering for those that have tried it. What happens if CSI is not unplugged on the $6E.

Absolutely no difference, even switched on the fly using prominator.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:21 PM   #16
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Re: Doing the 'ol $32B -> $6E swap

I still havent unplugged my CSI, it's averaging 60-70 degrees overnight so I'm good till winter and it's just great. Better than before, I highly recommend this change to anyone.
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