Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > DIY PROM
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

DIY PROM Do It Yourself PROM chip burning help. No PROM begging. No PROMs for sale. No commercial exchange. Not a referral service.

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-26-2009, 07:52 PM   #1
doc
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Mims, Florida
Posts: 2,136
Car: '87 IROCZ
Engine: 395 ZZ4
Transmission: ProBuilt 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.70s

Classifieds Rating: (0)
What is my total timing, how is it determined?

Lets say that I have 8* base timing (gotten by timing the engine with the EST wire disconnected) and I have 32.0 degrees in the advance timing table at high RPM and high engine load. Is my total timing actually 40 degrees or is it still just 32 degrees? And I forgot, I have 8 degrees in the reference table for base timing.
__________________
'87 L98 TPI IROCZ, 395cu.in. ZZ4 block (.030" over bore), ported Holley StealthRam; 3.875" Callies DragonSlayer crank, 5.85" Eagle H-beam rods, 14cc dished SRP pistons part# 148988, AFR190 heads, 3.70 rear gears, 224*/230* 114*LSA 0.530/0.536 lift CompCams cam, 1.6 roller rockers, 3000 Art Carr TC, SLP 1 3/4" headers, SLP cat-back, no cat, no AC, MAF w/o screens, 30#/hr Ford injectors, 52mm TB with airfoil, TB coolant bypass, Lay Ind. ram air kit, SS Brakes 1LE upgrade 12" rotors dual piston calipers, turbo TransAm fuel pump, K.Brown weld-on subframes. Rear tires: P295/35R18 BFG Drag Radials.
Best ET 12.12 sec @ 110.55 mph @ Milan.
With 395, ET 12.197 sec @ 113.65 mph @ Milan.
With 350, ET 12.97sec @ 105mph M/T ET Streets.
Best with HSR: ET 12.385 sec @ 108mph @ OSW.
doc is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2009, 04:07 PM   #2
TGO Supporter
 
Ronny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: wisconsin
Posts: 5,344

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: What is my total timing, how is it determined?

8 deg initial timing or base timing is neither added nor subtracted. But I guess it may be in a calculation ECU does. It just tells the ECU the position of the distributor so to speak. Your engine will see 32 deg at WOT and your datalogs should confirm at 32. Likewise if your idle SA is 24 then 24 is what you see in datalogs. Somewhere there is an explanation as to why one does not set base or initial timing at zero.
Ronny is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2009, 09:19 PM   #3
doc
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Mims, Florida
Posts: 2,136
Car: '87 IROCZ
Engine: 395 ZZ4
Transmission: ProBuilt 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt 3.70s

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Re: What is my total timing, how is it determined?

Thank you for the response.
doc is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2009, 08:49 AM   #4
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chasing Electrons
Posts: 11,386
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: What is my total timing, how is it determined?

In the Tuning Guide Book sticky, chap. 5, under the '8063/'8746/'7747 ECM is a spark logic write up. Explains how the ECM uses the spark tables/parameters and arrives at the final SA value.

RBob.
__________________

www.DynamicEFI.com

'92 Camaro in Dark Green Gray Metallic

Last edited by RBob; 03-29-2009 at 08:55 AM.
RBob is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2009, 08:49 AM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > DIY PROM

Tags
1986, 28, camaro, find, ford, initial, is, l98, prom, tbi, thirdgen, timing, total, tpi, zz4
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details