Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > DIY PROM
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

DIY PROM Do It Yourself PROM chip burning help. No PROM begging. No PROMs for sale. No commercial exchange. Not a referral service.

Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-20-2009, 10:51 AM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 25

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via ICQ to GreaseMonkey83 Send a message via AIM to GreaseMonkey83
Can ESC be tuned out?

recently put together an s10 with tbi 383. Everything is working properly except for the ESC (code 43), is there anyway i can tune this out? maybe subtract the spark bias from the main spark table and then make the bias 0, then uncheck the ESC malfunction flag? This ESC is giving me problems and i would rather just get rid of it completely. The computer is a 16197427, using 0D mask
Thanks, Allen
__________________
The best part about driving a Honda is that you can race around town all day and you never have to worry about getting a speeding ticket...

Last edited by GreaseMonkey83; 04-22-2009 at 01:07 AM.
GreaseMonkey83 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2009, 12:03 PM   #2
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chasing Electrons
Posts: 11,386
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: Can ESC be tuned out?

Uncheck the malf code 43

Set the max retard tables to all zero

RBob.
__________________

www.DynamicEFI.com

'92 Camaro in Dark Green Gray Metallic
RBob is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 09:24 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 25

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via ICQ to GreaseMonkey83 Send a message via AIM to GreaseMonkey83
Re: Can ESC be tuned out?

sounds easy enough, do i do anything with the main spark bias or should i just leave that alone? The reason i ask is because my main spark table has a maximum of 30* timing, the spark bias is 9.84 degrees, So how does the ECM know when to subtract out the bias? or does it automatically do it all the time? and because my ESC system is malfunctioning, would it have any effect on the bias?

Also, what would be the best way to add more timing? like i said before, my maximum now is 30* and id like to have around 35* total. Would i add 5* more to it, or would i have to compensate for the bias and add 14.84* (5+9.84)?

P.S. RBob, the reason for the code 33 that i was getting was because i had the MAP hooked to the TB port vacuum like you said, I hooked it to manifold vacuum port and the code went away, so thanks again!
__________________
The best part about driving a Honda is that you can race around town all day and you never have to worry about getting a speeding ticket...

Last edited by GreaseMonkey83; 04-21-2009 at 09:48 PM.
GreaseMonkey83 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 10:08 PM   #4
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chasing Electrons
Posts: 11,386
Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check

Classifieds Rating: (1)
Re: Can ESC be tuned out?

What the ECM does with the spark bias values, CTS comp, main & all is divorced from the ESC system.

The ECM adds up all of the SA values, then subs off the bias'es and initial. Then the ESC comes into play. It can only reduce the timing from that point.

Check out the SA Logic article for the '7747 ECM (Chap 5). It won't be exact for each parameter. But it will describe the basic function of the ECM with regards to SA.

Note that with or even without an ESC system, it is important to understand how the engine reacts to various levels of timing. More isn't always better. Look at the plugs as you make changes to the timing.

It is good that the code 33 was fixed. You can't tune when that code is active.

RBob.
RBob is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 11:04 PM   #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 25

Classifieds Rating: (0)
Send a message via ICQ to GreaseMonkey83 Send a message via AIM to GreaseMonkey83
Re: Can ESC be tuned out?

Right now, with 30* total and a 9.84 bais, that takes me down to the low 20*s and that just dosent seem like enough advance for this engine.The engine is a typical 70's small block,383 cu.in. with 276H cam and stock 350 heads. I figure 35* total timing should be in the ballpark of what the engine wants, alot closer than 21-22* anyway. Once i get total timing set at 35*, ill run the truck long enough for the computer to relearn the fuel trims and then ill do some runs and check the plugs and adjust from there.

Ill read the thread you posted, thanks for the info.

Last edited by GreaseMonkey83; 04-22-2009 at 01:10 AM.
GreaseMonkey83 is offline vBGarage Page   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2009, 11:04 PM
ThirdGen
1992 Camaro




Paid Advertisement


Reply

Go Back   Third Generation F-Body Message Boards > Tech Boards > DIY PROM

Tags
0d, 7747, 92, bias, camaro, check, esc, main, mask, setting, spark, system
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 


1982 Camaro '82 || 1983 Camaro '83 || 1984 Camaro '84 || 1985 Camaro '85 || 1986 Camaro '86 || 1987 Camaro '87 || 1988 Camaro '88 || 1989 Camaro '89 || 1990 Camaro '90 || 1991 Camaro '91 || 1992 Camaro '92


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright © 1997 - 2012 ThirdGen.org. All rights reserved. No part of this website may be reproduced without the expressed, documented, and written consent of ThirdGen.org's Administrators.

Emails & Contact Details