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Old 07-14-2009, 08:00 AM   #1
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Cruise Control Question

Is there any way to tame down the cruise control? Now that the car is making good power and the tune is good, when using cruise control the car gives too much throttle to speed up a little and takes away too much throttle to slow down a little. Car is a ratchetfoot! Is there any way to tame down the amount of throttle the cruise control gives and takes?

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Old 07-14-2009, 08:37 AM   #2
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Re: Cruise Control Question

Cruise is controlled by a separate module. You will need to hac it and find out what part of the circuit controls the feedback loop. There is nothing in the ECM for this. Except to pull some timing to reduce the power and responsiveness of the engine.

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Old 07-14-2009, 09:23 AM   #3
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Re: Cruise Control Question

I had that same problem once with a 2600 lb car and a large engine.
It would always overshoot the throttle adjustment, especially at slower speeds <65mph.
I had to re-engineer the cable connection to the throttle lever.
I had to add some slop in the connection, and limit the total throttle movement added by the cable. It fixed the problem enough to eliminate the surging at highway speed.

Some cruise control controllers have a DIP switch that can change the gain of the system. I don't know about factory GM units though.

In some cases it may be possible to swap the vacuum diaphram that controls the cable to something smaller with less power and less travel.
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Old 07-14-2009, 01:22 PM   #4
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In some cases it may be possible to swap the vacuum diaphram that controls the cable to something smaller with less power and less travel.
Or modulate the vac source maybe? Some sort of solenoid to prevent vacuum buildup in the diaphram and only send vac to it when the system is on, doesn't seem that hard to rig up with a 12v vacuum solenoid pocketed at the JY, some wiring diagrams and some beer.
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Re: Cruise Control Question

Mine does have a vac diaphragm controlling the cable, I'll have a good look at it tonight and see if I can adjust the cable somehow, or add a little slop to it. Never thought of that. Probably wouldn't take much.
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:32 AM   #6
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Re: Cruise Control Question

Actually, having too much slop in the cable will cause exactly what you are describing.

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Re: Cruise Control Question

I have same problem but again only <60 mph. tI think the issue is agrivated by my 7.4 TBI unit. Sequential throttle linkage might be the ans.
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I have same problem but again only <60 mph. tI think the issue is agrivated by my 7.4 TBI unit. Sequential throttle linkage might be the ans.
If you're good at welding you could extend the length of the throttle lever where the cruise cable attaches. Then, same movement of cable = less throttle opening.
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