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Old 11-20-2002, 02:47 PM   #1
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Fingerprint Entry System!

Well, after a few months of working on my project every waking moment - its finished.

A valid fingerprint locks and unlocks the doors, flashes the parking lamps and it even has a red security flashing LED. There is also a low battery indicator and a trunk open option. The system also flashes parking lamps and stuff when the interior lock switches are used. There is also a horn output. For security purposes, the print can only be enrolled when the doors are unlocked with a key switch. Now, I can graduate!

The picture shows the door that conceals the sensor, and 3 indicator LEDs. It looks red, but it is actually orange in person.

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Old 11-20-2002, 02:52 PM   #2
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Dude, thats nuts. :hail:

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Old 11-20-2002, 03:04 PM   #3
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are you gonna be selling these? that is awesome. I REALLY like it!!
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Old 11-20-2002, 03:06 PM   #4
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all I can say is 'Woah!' Good Stuff!!
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Old 11-20-2002, 03:19 PM   #5
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All I'm seeing is a door. What exactly should I be seeing here?
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Old 11-20-2002, 03:22 PM   #6
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SWEET. did you use a microprocessor for the logic? or computer, etc.
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Old 11-20-2002, 03:22 PM   #7
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when you start selling the system all I can say is , discount for thirdgens k ! *** that would be so kool. " Bond James Bond, now check out my rad third gen with laser mounted head lights!"
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Old 11-20-2002, 03:26 PM   #8
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I always wanted a system like that. I would buy one!
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:45 PM   #9
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Here are some more pictures...

I used a microcontroller for most of it - programmed the scanner with a computer.
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With the scanner door closed, there is a switch to shut it off and save power. The scanner automatically detects a finger - which has to be alive in order to be valid. There is also a small heater on the inside when it gets below 10 degrees.
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:49 PM   #11
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All I'm seeing is a door. What exactly should I be seeing here?
Look just to the left of the handle. If you look really close, you can see the outline of the print reader door and three little holes.
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:50 PM   #12
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The scanner automatically detects a finger - which has to be alive in order to be valid.
How are you checking for life (if you don't mind me asking)?
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:51 PM   #13
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Here is the box that would sit under the seat.. or somewhere. its about 4"x4". The large squares are relays to control the locks, lamp, horn, and trunk. The trunk opens if the door is locked and you scan your finger to unlock it twice within 6 seconds.
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:54 PM   #14
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This is the back... running off an actual car battery (cheapo from wal-mart)
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Just wanted to let you know, if nobody has before...You are the man.
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:58 PM   #16
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The sensor completes a circuit with the skin's live layer underneath the surface. Some other scanners even check body temperature, pulse, and blood oxygen level, but they werent available at the time.

The only problem with selling these is that Purdue owns part of it since i developed it for a class. That, and the installation process is a pain. It would be easier to have these be original equipment.
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Old 11-20-2002, 05:01 PM   #17
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does the scanner send out a unique code for each fingerprint, and the microproc have stored ones in memory to compare it too?
thats great, im an EE too.
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Old 11-20-2002, 05:02 PM   #18
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Old 11-20-2002, 05:10 PM   #19
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Excellent work. NOt ony can you graduate now, you can get rich now....as long as it doesn't cost to much for the change over. Get that sucker mas produced!
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Old 11-20-2002, 05:12 PM   #20
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ohohblita:

The scanner has a DSP connected to it. The DSP board processes and stores the fingerprints in memory. 200 prints can be stored to be compared with a newly scanned print. The microcontroller processes a verified print and controls the LEDs, locks, etc. To enroll a print, RS232 communication between the microconrtoller and DSP board is required.
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Old 11-20-2002, 05:54 PM   #21
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man that is THE coolest thing. if I were you I'd patent that VERY quickly if you haven't already. I'd say your on your way to being a millionaire :-D AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!!!
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Old 11-20-2002, 06:05 PM   #22
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and that is just plain sweet! :lala:
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Old 11-20-2002, 06:06 PM   #23
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thats hot....about how much does it cost to do??

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That is cool but if someone wants to get into your car they will just break the window, use a slim-jim, or *now* cut your finger off.
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Old 11-20-2002, 06:48 PM   #25
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very nice indeed; now if you can work that box into something smaller and more practicle and keep the validation for something inside the car such as the starter or whatnot that would be excellent.

either way, until you can control the car from a distance away i'm not impressed...........






j.k. very nice work; something i would love to see in action. good job! :hail:
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That is really awsome work.
Did you put the reflector/lamp in the front bottom of the door, or did you find some really rare door somewhere?
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Old 11-21-2002, 06:09 AM   #27
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'87FAKE-IROC-Z: I put the lamp in myself. Its amazing how many times I have used my Dremel in the past few months.


Kandied91z: My next step would be to have fingerprint ignition - then having a key would be nearly obscolete (except if the battery dies). As far as making it smaller, that could easilly be done - probably half the size.


WS - 666: They could cut your finger off.... except they would be pissed when it didn't work - the finger has to be alive.


DABE: I spent quite a bit on the prototype, but that includes the door and all of that. If i were to mass produce them they would be from around $350-$400.

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Old 11-21-2002, 06:30 AM   #28
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how much does this system cost and where can I get it?
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Old 11-21-2002, 07:28 AM   #29
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what he said.

awesome. get us a video or something1, to see this contraption doing its thing.

thats so damn cool, you should see the big smile on my face.
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Old 11-21-2002, 08:34 AM   #30
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I can just see all the KITT clone guys going gaga over this, post it over on knightregistries
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