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Old 08-10-2009, 01:18 PM   #1
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what wires are these?!

I pulled the stalk mounted radio out of my berlinetta to put in an aftermarket radio and these wire colors arent the colors of what the schematic for 84' says, can any tell me what thses are?
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Re: what wires are these?!

Using a test light or DMM would be the best way to see what each wire is. However, generally speaking, any pair of wires that are the same color and one has a different colored stripe will be the wires to one of the speakers. For example, a green wire and a green wire with a black or white stripe will go together to one of the speakers.

Red is usually your ignition power wire. Would only have +12V when the key is in "Run" or "Acc."

Orange is probably your constant +12V.

Black is ground

Brown is probably the illumination wire. This triggers the lights in the radio when you turn your parking/head lights on. On some years I believe a brown wire/brown with a stripe combo was used for one of the front speakers in the dash.

Yellow could also be a constant +12V or illumination. It is commonly used for both functions.

Have you checked deeper into the console to make sure the wiring hasn't been hacked up previously? Some PO could've tried to extend the wires and just used whatever colors of whatever scraps of wire he had laying around. Happened to a friend of mine with his 89 Firebird. He didn't check the wires and just guessed at the colors and ended up frying his speaker outputs when he accidentally connected the ignition power wire to his speaker wires.
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Re: what wires are these?!

No, no one could have, the stalk mounted radio was nearly impossible to get out, I dont think someone could have ****ed with it, and the car belonged to a little old lady who never drove it, its 25 years old with 70,000 miles. I think i might just buy the radio from a place that offers free installation and then leave the burden to them, haha.
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I think i might just buy the radio from a place that offers free installation and then leave the burden to them, haha.
Yeah, and then you can watch your car burn to ground a few hours later, due to an electrical fire. Your call.

Those wires don't look like the radio bundle at all. You'd have blue and light blue, green and light green, brown and yellow, grey and tan, then yellow, plain orange, black, another brown and another grey. Where is the connector that was in the back of the stock radio?

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Re: what wires are these?!

If you were reading what i said, I know they arent the right colors, i know whats supposed to be there. I positive they are ffor the radio, i took them out of the stock radio. I have a STALK MOUNTED RADIO which was only available in one camaro and it doesnt have a connecter, just wires going onto a circut board in this radio.
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Re: what wires are these?!

Hmm, no connector, that seems strange.
Did you try tracing the wires into the center console to see whether they change colors? That would be my guess.
Sorry about the stalk/stock confusion, I thought it was just misspelled. I have never actually seen a stalk mounted radio, got a picture by any chance?

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Re: what wires are these?!

most likely that wiring harness you see there ran off the radio to the radio connector in the console, because the stopck radio wires are NOT that long, and GM would NOT have made a radio that was hard wired to the main harness, there HAS to be a connector in the console where the stock radio (non berlinetta od style) should be, pull the console top
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Heres a pic of the inside<br><br>
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Re: what wires are these?!

man i know how the pod radio looks im saying the wires that go to the pod radio will plug into the normal STOCK camaro radio harness below the center console, pull the console and you can remove those wires as a unit, or at least sort them out, either that or get a test light.
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man i know how the pod radio looks im saying the wires that go to the pod radio will plug into the normal STOCK camaro radio harness below the center console, pull the console and you can remove those wires as a unit, or at least sort them out, either that or get a test light.
Read the whole thread, BigBadLou asked for the pic.

I agree with the secondary harness idea. It definitely sounds like something GM would do. Also, didn't the Berlinettas come with extra speakers or some kind of upgrades to the sound system? If they did, those wires probably just provide power and signal outputs to the amp or whatever signal processor was used.

A test light and/or opening the console are required to check.

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Re: what wires are these?!

After looking closer at the original pic you posted, I see the following wires:

black
red
yellow
white
brown & brown/white
orange & orange/white

In the thick black bundle:
green
blue
another black, but it looks like it may have been spliced?

I can't quite tell if there are 3 wires or 4 wires that are in the thick black bundle towards the top left of the pic.

Can you remove the sail panel speaker covers and see what color wires connect to the speakers there? I suspect the orange and brown pairs go to 2 of your speakers. I'm guessing the rear speakers, they may go to the fronts. The red, yellow, black, and white are probably ignition, battery, ground, and illumination in that order, although I may have the red and yellow backwards. You'll need a test light to confirm.

The black bundle of wires at the top of the pic are probably going to your other speakers, I'm guessing the front pair. I would expect there to be 4 wires though, 2 for each speaker.

I don't see the connection for the antenna though. It's probably down inside the console somewhere.
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Re: what wires are these?!

I just had a break through, and realized something when i took the center console out. My radio is made of 2 peices, a reciever and a head unit. I only took the head unit out, so technically all the wires that are supposed to be there are there and colored right and going into the receiver (metal box you can see in the console in the pic),
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Re: what wires are these?!

That makes sense. Also explains why there was no antenna lead sticking up with the rest of the wires.
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