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Old 09-19-2009, 05:27 PM   #1
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new batt and alternator still dosent charge

alright heres whats goin on mr cars a 88 camaro 305 5.0 and ive put a new alternator and battery in it and my battery still dies along with the car i put a multimeter on the lead coming out of the alt and its only reading about 2 volts i also tryed as suggested on here to jump the brown and tan wires together with a paperclip and that diddnt work either im totaly stumped the only other thing i can think of is that over by the battery there is an orange wire with a fuseable link in it that turns to red on the other side of the fuse that isnt hooked to anything the fuse has a 16 on the outside any ideas guys?
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:28 AM   #2
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

that oragange wire is for the fan (+) power..
The other one is pretty important to, they should be connected to the opisite connectors near them.

You have a good ground ? Batt->Head and Block to Chassi ?
Cause without a good ground it cant charge..
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Old 09-20-2009, 10:34 AM   #3
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

the only grounds i can see is one that goes from the batt to the chassis i dont see any others there deffenetly isnt one from the batt to the motor and i dont see one from the motor to the chassis i have the fan wired into a switch now so i guess i can leave that unplugged
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:56 PM   #4
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

Well you should have an AWG 4 running from your battery to the head/block (main ground)
if not, fix that. cause I dont think its good runnning without it..

I changed my + and - one out to AWG 2 wires, heavy duty DLS cable, Big difference against stock one. Also I changed the alternator wire to a larger one (10mm) So now its got good power and running all good again.
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:18 PM   #5
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

i will check it out tomarrow do you possibly have any pics of where these wires connect to on the motor/ chassis? thanks
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:30 PM   #6
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

Good

Here I have posted some pictures from my change of main power cables

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/el...e-battery.html (New Power Cable (battery->Starter))

at the bottom, if you have any questions just ask
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:44 PM   #7
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

well i found the problem and its all fixed now it ended up being a fuse that was missing from the fuseblock not even blown missing thats the second one ive found like this the other one was for my #2 injector! my car has the ac and heater bypassed and the slot for this fuse was f/p fan so i thought it went to the ac/heater and never thought a thing of it untill i started looking at wireing diagrams today and found it replaced it and it works fine but the battery wire that goes to the alt isnt there supposed to be a fuseable link in there? mine has been hacked apart i think the fuse went bad and then the guy cut and then put a butt connector in there and finished it the rest of the way with a smaller wire like 16 guage so im gonna replace that tomarrow and also this wire seemed to be getting really hot is this normal or maby because of the smaller wire? and could i just put an inline fuse in there instead of a fuseable link? what size fuse do i need? thanks
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Old 09-22-2009, 02:36 AM   #8
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

Good it worked out.

The fuselink on the alternator cable dosent exist on all cars, only some.
Sometimes that fusiblelink is on the main (+) power cable from battery to starter.

Im running DLS - AWG 7 from alternator -> battery without any fuseible link.
Working good. The fusible link im using from (+) to the 2 wires connected to it (fan and some other + power) So those have it still.

But I wanna replace that fuseible link with a regular fuse, wich is much better, but I dont know what size cause the fusible link dosent have any ratings on them..
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Vacuum, Air/Fuel Ratio & Fuel Pressure gauges / Exide Maxxima Battery / K&N Airfilter / Hitatchi
Ministarter 2,0 kW / Adjusted TPS / New IAC
Drivetrain: Th700R4 Tranny / Borg Warner / 3.27 Gears
Interior: Exotic Burlwood dash / Grey clothing / Stereo : Kenwood KDC-6031 / DLS CA21 / MDS 2x12"
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:32 PM   #9
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

i cant find awg 7 anywhere i searched all over today i cant even find it online could i go with 6?
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:06 AM   #10
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Re: new batt and alternator still dosent charge

Well with cables you can never go to big
So an 6 awg would be fine to, just little harder to install, but if you do it right, it will be fine

Keep us posted here so we know how it turns out for you.
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Ministarter 2,0 kW / Adjusted TPS / New IAC
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Interior: Exotic Burlwood dash / Grey clothing / Stereo : Kenwood KDC-6031 / DLS CA21 / MDS 2x12"
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