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I have a complete ford 9" rear end with a spool and disk breaks. I bought it 2 years ago and was going to put it under my 88 iroc but due to time constraints and a need for some money to make my other 88 camaro daily driving worthy I need to sell it. I don't remember what size gears are in it but if you're serious about buying it I will open it up and let ya know. The it came out of another 3rd gen camaro and will bolt/weld right up to another one. I'm asking $1450 but I will take any reasonable offers. I will deliver the axle if the buyer is within 50 miles and the buyer is responsible for shipping if that is required.
It should bolt right up. Although you'd have to do some welding up to the frame. The two beams weld up under the frame of the car and fix the problem with the 3rd gen camaro's frame warping due to torque and such. I'm not really sure how much it will cost to ship. I'll have to get back to you on that. Although my zip code is 77084 of you'd like to look into it. I may be able to get a deal on freight though.
this doesn't use the torque arm. The problem with the torque arm is that its a single center support which allows the axle to twist when alot of power is transfered to the axle which gives you less traction. This axle uses a two point which keeps it from twisting and has the extended rails that go under the frame to keep the body from twisting as well. Ford 9" axles all use this set up or a 4 point set up but thats when you're looking at 3000 plus cost wise. The torque arm doesn't give the transmission any support so as long as the rear end is supported to the frame the torque arm is not needed. If you have anymore questions just give me a call, I'll have my phone with me all day. 281-732-1342
allright thanks!! i appreciate the help i might have to give you a call tomorow to get some more information from you. do you have any idea about what size gear it has in it?
this doesn't use the torque arm. The problem with the torque arm is that its a single center support which allows the axle to twist when alot of power is transfered to the axle which gives you less traction. This axle uses a two point which keeps it from twisting and has the extended rails that go under the frame to keep the body from twisting as well. Ford 9" axles all use this set up or a 4 point set up but thats when you're looking at 3000 plus cost wise. The torque arm doesn't give the transmission any support so as long as the rear end is supported to the frame the torque arm is not needed. If you have anymore questions just give me a call, I'll have my phone with me all day. 281-732-1342
what the hell are you talking about?
The tq arm doesnt make the rear end twist and lose traction... Not to mention the location of the lower control arms isnt anywhere near the right location to bolt into an fbody. For the record my for 9" uses the tq arm and all the stock mounting locations/parts as a 10 bolt...
the tq arm is there to line the axle up with the transmission. Although the 9" that I have doesn't use the 3rd gen tq arm, instead it uses the two point control arms that bolt up to the extended pieces that weld up under the frame on the 3rd gen. This axle requires welding to the frame of the 3rd gen and this prevents a loss of traction due to the axle twisting. The 3rd gen tq arm that comes stock is not designed to prevent the axle from twisting very well. Look at the pictures of the axle before you start flaming at me and if you wish to insult my opinion please do it through pms.
Btw I still haven't had a chance to check the size of the gears for you.
the tq arm is there to line the axle up with the transmission. Although the 9" that I have doesn't use the 3rd gen tq arm, instead it uses the two point control arms that bolt up to the extended pieces that weld up under the frame on the 3rd gen. This axle requires welding to the frame of the 3rd gen and this prevents a loss of traction due to the axle twisting. The 3rd gen tq arm that comes stock is not designed to prevent the axle from twisting very well. Look at the pictures of the axle before you start flaming at me and if you wish to insult my opinion please do it through pms.
Btw I still haven't had a chance to check the size of the gears for you.
You need to get a clue on what your selling and how a suspension works.
THIS WILL NOT BOLT INTO A 3RD GEN CAR!!!
It will require all kinds of modification:
and for the record, the torque arm does what it implies, transfers torque to the wheels. It is there to adjust pinion angle and actually STOP the rear from twisting. A stock camaro suspension is composed of a 3 point system to your 2 point set-up you got. (torque arm, and 2 LCA's)
The rear-end is lined up by the panhard bar which controlls side-to-side movement....
This does not look like it will even come close to doing anything but cause wheel hop and I dont think it will even bolt onto the frame rails.
It's not my opinion, it's a fact, a torque arm will lower your 60's drastically. Fastest car with a stock type suspension is laying down a .92 witha torque arm, there is NO WAY your set-up will ever hook!!!
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also $1400 for a STOCK VAN 9" rear with a STOCK CASE is just plain crazy.
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hes an aggie what do u expecti if it dont have utters there is no way hell know anything about it lol. jk....but seriously that setup is worse then stock the stock suspension is a good design just has the weak 10 bolt....alot cheaper ways to eliminate wheel hop....is there anyway a mod can delete this before someone buys this crap?
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FWD FTL!!!
Dont get mad if I call you and idiot i just call them like i see them, If you want to tell me im a jerk save it ive heard it all before....
I know, i kinda felt bad about my post, but then I just had to keep reminding myself thatn he's just basically a SCAMMER and looking to dup someone into buying some junk he was dumb enough to buy.
I don't know about the actual housing internals, but the linkage set up looks like what's called a "long truck arm" setup like what was used in 1968-72 Chevy pickup trucks with rear coil springs. The pieces are kind of all pushed together in the picture and are in sort of "jumbled" order. The crossbar would go far up forward and get welded in between the other two rails. The long arms pivot at the cross member and run back and are ridgidly fastened to the rear end. These setups are what are under current NASCAR racers and have been used by many hot rodders and 1/4 mile racers as well. Hot Rods to Hell in California sells these kits. Their ads can be found in many hot rod magazines and have been featured in how- to articles.
I don't have any personal experience with how well they work in comparison to the stock type torque arms, but some people really like them.
thats what I was trying to explain, but they weren't understanding how I said it. I'm not trying to scam anyone and I never said it was a complete bolt up. I said many times that it needed to be welded up to the frame.
thats what I was trying to explain, but they weren't understanding how I said it. I'm not trying to scam anyone and I never said it was a complete bolt up. I said many times that it needed to be welded up to the frame.
You're selling a STOCK ford 9" rear end for $1400, and it doesnt even bolt in to an f-body.
it's a Southside Machine lift bar kit that includes the subframe connectors. you have to weld in the subframe connectors. looks like the crossmember is already welded. then all you have to do is bolt up the lift bars to the crossmember. designed for drag racing.
