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Old 11-18-2009, 08:42 PM   #1
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GTO T56 - fresh rebuild (SOLD)

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I have a GTO T56 that I just took apart after it was grinding 3rd and difficult in 4th. I have a brand new 3-4 synchro, a new 3rd gear, and new 3-4 blockers for it, as well as a complete set of bronze fork pads and billet 3-4 synchro keys. Remaining blockers were tested ok on it.

I haven't reassembled the unit yet, so if anyone's interested in it as it sits apart, or adding additional parts to it (billet 5-6 ?), let me know.

The GTO T56 is externally identical to the LS1 T56 and can be used in any application the LS1 unit can. The GTO has a MN12 gear set which is lower and suited for heavier vehicles. The 2005 GTO T56 has more modern internal components than the LS1 version, allowing faster/smoother shifts and comes stock with solid 1-2 synchro keys and a steel 3-4 shift fork. The double/triple cone synchros provide upto an additional 50% more friction area for the shifting synchronization.

Adding an adaptor plate will allow it to mount to and existing muncie/T5/saginaw bellhousing/clutch setup. Or it can be used directly behind an LSx swap.

$1600 as it sits with new and performance parts.. $1800 if I reassemble it with performance shimming. Shipping is about $130, or can meet up with anyone within 50mi of 19711 zip..

pictures available upon request.

thanks
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Old 11-18-2009, 09:41 PM   #2
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Re: GTO T56 - fresh rebuild

What are the MN12 ratios again?
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:57 PM   #3
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Re: GTO T56 - fresh rebuild

man, so tempting.......

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Old 11-19-2009, 07:14 AM   #4
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Re: GTO T56 - fresh rebuild

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What are the MN12 ratios again?
Code:
         700r4,   MM6,   MN12
1st Gear  3.06    2.66   2.97
2nd Gear  1.63    1.78   2.07
3rd Gear  1.00    1.30   1.43
4th Gear  0.70    1.00   1.00
5th Gear    --    0.74   0.84
6th Gear    --    0.50   0.56
Reverse   2.29    2.90   3.28
The MM6 ratio was used in the LT1/LS1 T56s, the MN12 was used in the GTO/Z06/CTSv T56s.

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Old 11-22-2009, 09:25 AM   #5
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Re: GTO T56 - fresh rebuild

I am interested but I need to make it work with an 87 formula with T5.
Whart parts and mods are needed or do you know a link with this info.
Thanks,
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:03 PM   #6
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I am interested but I need to make it work with an 87 formula with T5.
Whart parts and mods are needed or do you know a link with this info.
Thanks,
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http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/Borg.../bwt56pics.cfm
Is the original article on the Aftermarket T56 unit. The Adapter plate
to make this swap work with any LS1/GTO T56 is available here:

http://www.thegearbox.org/catalog/it...17/4803441.htm

The two differences in doing this with a LS1/GTO trans, is that
the shifter will sit back 2" from the T5 and will need to be adapted
with a plate to relocate the handle back forward, and no mechanical
speedo hook is available unless you have someone like "alloy" here
on thirdgen.org machine the tailhousing for you.

The one major advantage of the LS1/GTO trans over the Aftermarket
unit, is the power rating of the LS1/GTO units are 450+ lb-ft (and
upgradeable to 700+) , over the 400 of the Aftermarket units.
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Re: GTO T56 - fresh rebuild

Thanks for the info. The LS1 conversion looks like it would require quite a bit more than buying the Tremec or Richmond T56 units specifically built for T5 replacement.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:38 PM   #8
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Thanks for the info. The LS1 conversion looks like it would require quite a bit more than buying the Tremec or Richmond T56 units specifically built for T5 replacement.
Because of the speedo or the shifter? I don't understand what "quite a bit more" means since the article describes what you need to do for the Aftermarket Tremec T56. You need to do those changes no matter what T56 (or in general any aftermarket trans) you convert to. The LS1/GTO units are just cheaper/stronger and more available.
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Old 11-23-2009, 08:53 PM   #9
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Re: GTO T56 - fresh rebuild

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Thanks for the info. The LS1 conversion looks like it would require quite a bit more than buying the Tremec or Richmond T56 units specifically built for T5 replacement.
Because of the speedo or the shifter? I don't understand what "quite a bit more" means since the article describes what you need to do for the Aftermarket Tremec T56. You need to do those changes no matter what T56 (or in general any aftermarket trans) you convert to. The LS1/GTO units are just cheaper/stronger and more available.
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Re: GTO T56 - fresh rebuild (SOLD)

Sold... First post updated.
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