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Old 04-05-2003, 06:37 PM   #1
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FINISHED!!!! 305-350 swap!!!!!!!!!! MY G*D ITS POWERFUL!!!

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

i finished my 305-350 swap in my 85 iroc!!!!

for those of you that dont know, i fell in love with thridgens about 3yrs ago and last september i bought an 85 iroc with a 305 that blew smoke and a 700R4. then the restoration began......

now 8 months and $5000 later im done!!!!!

OLD- stock 305, TPI, 700R4

NOW- 355 TPI
11:1 compression
.172 exh, .202 int
forged rods, crank, pistons
BAD CAM- .472 int, .481 exh
titanium valve springs
dynomax shorty headers
of course it has all the chrome and shiny goodies (valve covers, pullys, polised TPI setup)

WC T-5 tranny
Competition clutch setup
3.42 posi

i just fired it up and drove it for the first time today. all i can say is.............t-t-t....TORQUE MONSTER!!!!
i couldnt have done it without you guys and the wisdom of the TGO message boards. you have my eternal thanks:hail:

ill get some pics asap!!!! let me know what you think

P.S.- sorry for the long post, but im really excited!!! my neck is still sore from being pressed into the headrest
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Old 04-06-2003, 01:09 AM   #2
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It must be nice to have your plans and dreams come to life so potently. I can't wait until it's my turn. Good for you man, congrats!:lala:
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Old 04-06-2003, 06:40 AM   #3
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another satisfied TGO member!!! Good for you!
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Old 04-06-2003, 01:33 PM   #4
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Glad to hear it.

Someday I'll be where you are (305 out/350 in) and I can't wait.

The best part is when someone asks
"Who did the engine?" you get to say "ME!"

"Who did the exhaust?" ----- "ME!"

And on, and on.

I do have a question though about your engine specs.

NOW- 355 TPI
11:1 compression
.172 exh, .202 int
forged rods, crank, pistons
BAD CAM- .472 int, .481 exh
titanium valve springs
dynomax shorty headers
of course it has all the chrome and shiny goodies (valve covers, pullys, polised TPI setup)


.172 exh, .202 int ----- Is that the valve size?

And "BAD CAM"..... is that a manufacture?

Just remember to keep the tickets in the cop's pocket, not yours.
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Old 04-06-2003, 05:39 PM   #5
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yeah i know its great to have it going. in response to your question, yes that is my valve size. also i said BAD CAM because im not sure who makes it. lol bought it at auto zone for 29.99. i was hesitant but the guy looked up the specs and it had a 100,000 mile warrenty so i was like what the hell.....why not
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Old 04-06-2003, 07:48 PM   #6
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Congrats on the swap. Can't wait to see the pics!
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Man I know what your talking about one of mu buds has an iroc ad its the same way it wicked fast. And i know what you mean about the touque and your neck huting.
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ok now that my initial euporia has worn off (and i can finally keep my pants dry when i hear it run ) lets see if i cant get you guys some pics. heres the engine bay. looks a little dark but then again its like 12:00 at night when i took it.
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Old 04-08-2003, 06:50 PM   #9
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hmm that pic didnt seem to load. let me try again
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one more time!..check out the FAQ section on the home page for help...LOL
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hmm i cant get it to load. you guys need to see this, i put in more than a few hours of detailing into this engine. (except i still need to repolish my tpi plenum ) lets try this one more time....[IMG]{IMG}C:\Digital Pictures\Digital Photos 03\Cars\85 Camaro\Engine Compartment 2.JPG{IMG}[/IMG]
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well that didnt work, lets try this......
[IMG]C:\Digital Pictures\Digital Photos 03\Cars\85 Camaro\Engine Compartment 2.JPG[/IMG]
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well damn. i guess im a lot better at building engines than i am at working on computers. what am i doing wrong?
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:27 PM   #15
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You cant load images from you harddrive!! LOL

Try loading the images to this site and then linking them to here

www.imagestation.com


and i think your valves should be 2.02 and 1.72
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It seems a lot of you are getting rid of your 305's. Not that I have a problem with this, I plan on getting rid of mine for a 350 as well.

I am just curious, where do all of these 305's go?
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You cant load images from you harddrive!! LOL

Try loading the images to this site and then linking them to here

www.imagestation.com


and i think your valves should be 2.02 and 1.72
yes you can ..after hitting reply ..click on browse...then find your pic in your files..you may have to reduce it in size....like this..
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It seems a lot of you are getting rid of your 305's. Not that I have a problem with this, I plan on getting rid of mine for a 350 as well.

I am just curious, where do all of these 305's go?
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No seriously.

You just sell them to a junkyard for a few bucks?

My friend took a 305 out of his Chevy K5 (underpowered, dont ask) and sold it to a guy who was hot rodding a boat.
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ok ill try that next. right now im going to the exhaust shop to get some flowmaster sound

btw- my 305 went to the floor of my garage, where i constantly trip over it every time i go to my car. anyone who wants it, come and take it
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LOL, i thought everyone else used 305's as boat-anchors also. Problem is, i don't like pulling them back up, so i just cut the rope!!!
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Hey, I just swaped my 305 out for a 350 also. It is pretty nice. I can also say I built my motor, my exhuast, swapped in the rear upgraded the breaks and the list goes on. Mine was done because my 305 took a crap. Looking back on it I didnt see any physical damage. I think that the timing chain may have jumped a tooth or something, but it was for the better. Unfortunately I also am in the process of swapping in an electric speedo so I cant drive it until I get it working so the computer will lock up. I am hoping this weekend. I have however taken it out for short trips and can tell you that the 305 wouldent burn through first and into second like this.

What kind of heads did you use? Do you know the casting number? Also on the cam do you have the duration numbers?

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ok ill try that next. right now im going to the exhaust shop to get some flowmaster sound

btw- my 305 went to the floor of my garage, where i constantly trip over it every time i go to my car. anyone who wants it, come and take it

Ill take your 305 where do you live? is it in good condition? Email me at ajm_shorty@hotmail.com
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305's should be kept for installing in s-10's.
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If I was going to do a v8 swap into an s10 it would be at least a 350. I just think that the 305's should go to the scap metal yards.

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ok ill try that next. right now im going to the exhaust shop to get some flowmaster sound

btw- my 305 went to the floor of my garage, where i constantly trip over it every time i go to my car. anyone who wants it, come and take it
ROTFLMAO.. :hail:
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What kind of heads did you use? Do you know the casting number? Also on the cam do you have the duration numbers?


actually theyre 305 heads that have been extensively worked and ported. reason being:
305 heads with a little work can flow just as good as nice 350 heads, and they have much smaller chambers.

smaller chambers=higher compression

higher compression=more ponies at the wheels

but guess what i just found out about the "good deal" on my 29.99 cam.....i called the company that made it just to be sure what i had and heres what i found out......

LIFT
int-.390
exh-.410



i knew it was too good to be true!!!!

now i get to have fun changing a cam while its in the car.

the thing that makes me happy is even with a basically stock cam my car still feels like an alcohol dragster!!!

ok now that ive accepted reality and have to change a cam, what do you guys reccomend? ive heard good things about zz3s and zz4s. what about lunatis? suggestions?
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