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Old 05-28-2009, 03:33 PM   #151
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

What ever came of this build? As it seems to just have fallen off with not much of a write up and or pics of the completed work.

I know someone has documented their engine swap. In the early 80s I know this is what "HARDCORE PONTIAC FANS" were doing. Here is a list of things they had done:

77-79 Firebird/TransAM Motor Mounts $24.99 ea
Custom Headers $1000.00
or Ram Air Exhaust Manifolds $259.00 ea (Re-Man)
Custom 3" drive shaft (to handle the torque)
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Old 07-02-2009, 03:29 PM   #152
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

i got mine in yesterday and took pics but havent uploaded them.
I used:
My stock frame mounts and 72 catilina engine mounts
72 catilina manifolds both rear exit
i got the adapter plate off of tci for 60 bucks so i got to use my stock tranny
the y-pipe i had an exhaust shop just move the outlets a bit and thats about it

oh when i lowered the motor onto the frame mount the motor was a bit crooked
so i chopped both off and made it not crooked and welded the mounts in place im firing it up in a few days and will be putting plenty of pics i want everyone finishing theres its an easy swap
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Old 07-03-2009, 12:25 AM   #153
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

I have a 92 Firebird with a V-6.... I also have a 350 Pontiac out of a 73 Ventura. Is a 455 swap and a 350 swap about the same?
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Old 07-03-2009, 02:35 AM   #154
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

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I have a 92 Firebird with a V-6.... I also have a 350 Pontiac out of a 73 Ventura. Is a 455 swap and a 350 swap about the same?
They should be, if im not mistaken the 455 and 350 are almost like a 305 chevy vs a 350 chevy, different block, very similar design. But im not sure, im no Pontiac expert.
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Old 07-03-2009, 02:17 PM   #155
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

same shiite, different displacement. it's the difference between a 305 and a 400 SBC. the physical installation is the same, however. I'd do this if I could afford to build a Pontiac.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:28 PM   #156
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

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same shiite, different displacement. it's the difference between a 305 and a 400 SBC. the physical installation is the same, however. I'd do this if I could afford to build a Pontiac.
all depends on where you look. I picked up my 78 4o0 for a mere $2400. came w/free Formy body

any old Poncho battlewagon or GP/Pheonix should have a nice donor engine, just gotta look. craigslist is a nice source
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Old 07-19-2009, 12:42 PM   #157
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

Just make sure to upload the pics, especially the motor mounts and exhaust. I am thinking about this swap and would prefer NOT to do this one with no insight (like I did the olds/buick swaps) so please help!!

Great job to those who have done it!!
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:56 PM   #158
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

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They should be, if im not mistaken the 455 and 350 are almost like a 305 chevy vs a 350 chevy, different block, very similar design. But im not sure, im no Pontiac expert.
any pontiac engine from 65 till 78 or 79 are dimensionally the same. 326, 350, 389, 400, 421, 428, 455. bore, stroke, and crank journal size are the differences (all used 3.00 inch mains except the 421, 428, and 455 which used 3.25 mains.) the 265 and 301s are short deck engines=junk. 64 and before are similar but have many differences (heads, intake, timing/water pump cover etc)the later 70s 400s have weaker blocks as the main webs are thinner. unless its a service replacment block or earlier one, its best not to make huge HP engines out of em.. one way to tell what a pontiac engine is, pull the intake and look in the lifter valley. there will be 2 numbers. like my 72 455 has "5 5" cast into it, meaning its a 455. it is also on the front of the engine on the pass. side (the vehicle VIN and a 2 letter code for the engine) im sure theres much i missing, but its some good info...
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:53 PM   #159
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

ok i got the car in the lift ill take some pics tomorrow i used the stock frame side mount as factory. Then for engine side mounts i used the saddle or u shaped mounts out of a 74 catalina which was my donar car

I also used manifolds too instead of this header crap which seems like a pain other than that the swap was pretty tit i even used the stock tranny
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:00 PM   #160
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Re: Pontiac 455 swap. sooooo much fun.

Eagerly awaiting pictures and information.
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Old 09-17-2009, 07:25 PM   #161
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ok i got the car in the lift ill take some pics tomorrow i used the stock frame side mount as factory. Then for engine side mounts i used the saddle or u shaped mounts out of a 74 catalina which was my donar car

I also used manifolds too instead of this header crap which seems like a pain other than that the swap was pretty tit i even used the stock tranny

It would be nice if there were pictures to go along with what is being stated about this project. As I have heard of people doing it but have yet to see it documented. Please post some pics.
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