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06-24-2005, 06:11 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | Definately with a stick shift the 377! I think the mystique of the 327 comes from the few High performance versions like the L79.
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i have the L79 327 in my third gen, only upgrades are edelbrock headers, edelbrock 750cfm carb. i will tell you, that eats 350s for breakfast, havnt had much that could or woudl keep up. the only cars that keep up are big, big money cars. i wouldnt traid my 327 for any small block. |
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06-24-2005, 06:41 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | 84327 your dead on. There are but a handfull of cars that had hypo 327s. The L79 is but a few, I beleive the L84 fuely is the 365 hp(Gross horsepower) L65 is the carb version. But there are just a handfull of hypo 350s also the LT-1 370 hp 360 hp in the camaro, I belive the 1st hypo 350 would be the L46 in the 69 vette 350 hp. The L46 does have me confused though. The L46 sounds like an Lt-1 with a quadrajet and a low rise cast iron intake. It has the same 11:1 compression. |
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06-24-2005, 06:49 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | i know a few gentlemen with 327s in there variouse cars and trucks, and there all the week 250horse version, none of them believed me when i told them the L79 was 340-350hp stock, one of them owns a garage, we tore the motor apart got some Numbers and checked, yep L79. then add on a big carb and open exhaust add another 20 atleast onto that. we then went out, he had his 81 Trans am with a 455 bigblock, 3.77 stock car gears, posi, i have 3.08s and one wheel wonder. well we went the local track on test day, first race he beat me by 2 tenths of a second, second race he killed me but he punched the go button (nos), but third race he ended up winning by half second. (good thing the 70's trans am with a bigblock is so damn heavy) lets see your 350 do that.
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06-24-2005, 09:02 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | Comparing apples to apples O.K., Your saying L79. That number is nothing to through around. The L79 has a highrise Aluminum intake a solid lift cam. The L79 makes 350 GROSS H.P. The L79 is the 3rd highest rated 327 in chevy history. Put a vintage 370 H.P
LT-1 (yes there is a hifan in thats not like the 92-97 LT1) Put them in the same car the LT-1 will beat it. On the street torques is KING, but not only will the LT-1 make more torque, it has more horses. We are talking vintage ORIGONAL L79 V.S. LT-1 engines.
I doubt your L79 has the Origonal grind. |
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06-24-2005, 09:07 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | ok yes, an orginal LT-1 vs. L79 the LT-1 will win. horsepower yes gross 350 with the L79 and 370 with the LT-1 of course the LT-1 will win. what i was talking about is a slightly modified L79, basically straightpiped true duel exhaust, with larger carb, in a lighter car, vs. a 455 heavy as **** car. |
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06-24-2005, 09:08 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | O.K the Lt-1 will be quicker? Or was you saying let the average 350 do that? |
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06-24-2005, 09:11 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | i was talking a LT-1 Vs. a L79 in the same car, stock motors, the LT-1 will win. but main point was that a well put together L79 327 vs. a good 455 in a heavy car the 327 should win.
for instance, L79 327 in a third gen SC, vs an 81 Trans am, which is the second gen body, with a 455 bigblock. the transam is much heavier, the motor is much heavier. power to weight ratios
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06-24-2005, 09:12 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | LT-1 |
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06-24-2005, 09:13 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | thats nice
id like to put a picture of my 327 up, but its not letting me.
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06-24-2005, 09:21 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | Just got this nice L79 Pic F##### I love V8 chevys!!!!! |
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06-24-2005, 09:25 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | my L79, ok... its much cleaner now than it was then, this was just after getting the motor in, ill get a picture tomorrow if weather is good. but gives ya an idea |
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06-24-2005, 09:31 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | im prolly stupid for posting this picture, but i love this shot of my car, shows that that 327 pushes around, and trust me, its not as drematic as it looks. i was called every name in the book before. but i just wanted to show this. dont ask why |
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06-24-2005, 09:36 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | O.K. lets not get in trouble on this board, it has to be 350-327 related, oh you a a 327 equiped car I guess its ok!!!! |
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06-24-2005, 09:40 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | yeah i know... sorry... but just wanted to show what that motor pushes, and it turns those tires over real easly |
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06-24-2005, 09:59 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | My 350.  locating A/Cwiring |
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06-24-2005, 10:02 PM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | Give me the specs on your car I love hearing anything about 82-92 camaro and firebirds! Email me though, everyone has a good thing going on this sight, OH by the way This thread has inspired me to collect pics on factory 350/327 engines!!
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06-25-2005, 11:59 AM
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Car: 1986 IROC-Z Engine: 355 ci TPI, 10:1 cr, Isky cam, ported heads, dual exhaust Transmission: 700R4, ratchetting shifter, 3.23 rear | I'm in a Corvette forum as well, and the Corvette had both the 327 and the 350 as engine options during the third generation years ('68-'82). Even though the original engine codes exist for these cars, "L79", "LT-1", "ZR-1", etc., I don't know too many owners that are actually leaving their engines original. Some of them remove the original engine to preserve their car's value and go and put different engines in them, such as 383 strokers or ZZ4 crate motors or whatever. Other owners rebuild their original engines to make a lot more power than they originally did. In other words, the motor may be an "L-79" in name only.
What I'm getting at is that the engine option code doesn't mean that much anymore, 30-something years later. These engines are getting tired and rebuilt, and are almost never rebuilt to original specifications. So throwing around the original horsepower numbers doesn't mean much anymore. You could have an "L79" that is actually a 383 making a lot more power than the "LT1" ever did. See what I mean?
But the actual point the guy was getting across, that torque is king on the street, I agree with.
For example, compare a Honda S2000 with its torque-less engine but with good power up high, with a Viper that has tremendous torque down low. Which one will be quicker on the street? That's a more extreme example of 327 vs. 350, but the point is the same. The torquier engine will feel quicker and perform better on the street.
On my Corvette, which is a big block 427, I used to have a bigger solid roller cam on it. Below 3500 rpm, it was gutless, but above 7000 rpm it was beautiful. I swapped it for a solid roller cam one "size" smaller in the series. Even though it won't rev as high, and will be 20 or 30 less horsepower on the books, it should perform a lot better because midrange torque is very much stronger and it'll start waking up at 3000 rpm. So if I were to race myself, I'd be a lot quicker with the smaller, torquier cam.
Yes, on the street, torque is more important. |
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06-25-2005, 01:23 PM
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Car: Camaro Z281991 Engine: 5.7L/350 TPI Transmission: TH700R4 ··································· Car: Acura CL 1998 Engine: 3.0L/183 Transmission: 4 spd auto/OD | The only reason Id build a 327, is if the parts were easy to find and not to expensive.
Id build one.. but id want to use a late model block (1pc rear main)
It might be a bit more streetable concidering less stroke makes your torque curve peak higher thus the hight reving factor.
How many time do you hear - If I can get it to hook ..
If it hooks, they risk breaking parts ...
If it doesnt, you dont break parts, but dont take advantage of your engines power\your investment.
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08-25-2005, 02:43 AM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta 87 Iroc Engine: 327 | I know its been a while since anybody posted, but people we're saying the 327's sounded awesome. If anybody wants I can record the sound of mine in my 87 Iroc. True dual exhaust(2 1/2in) straight back from some hooker supercomp longtubes to some flowmaster super 40's. Its extremely deep sounding at idle but when revved its a little bit different then a 350. |
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08-25-2005, 08:01 AM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | hey toca, lets compair sounds, my 327 has a mild cam, flat pistons, slightly better than stock intake and big *** carb, out through edelbrock headers to costom bent pipes to sidepipes that are basically straight pipes. send me your sound at darcren64@hotmail.com and ill get mine recorded |
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08-26-2005, 01:00 AM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | I disagree spectre. A smaller stroke wont make it more streetable.
If you put a big cam in a 327 it will lope, you put the same cam in a 350 to 400 it will idle smoother.
Thats why if you hear a 375 hp 396 and a L72 427 425 hp, the 427 will sound milder. |
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08-26-2005, 08:22 AM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | yes a 327 will lope more than a 350 with the same cam, but not much... and a lope doesnt make it any less streetable, if you know how to hadle it that is. gotta figure that an ls1 yes it idles smooth but your pusing same horse and thats streetable... plus the lope sounds good |
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08-26-2005, 10:19 AM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Engine: THE LT1 SWAP SHALL BEGIN!!!! Transmission: 700 R4 Axle/Gears: LSD! =( | Has anyone actually had a swap from a 305.350 to a 327 on 3rd gen camaro or firebird?
My friend is selling me a 327 engine taken from a 68 Camaro
But I don't know if I should get it, he's selling it to me for 50 dollars. |
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08-26-2005, 10:58 AM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | on the street torque is king. The ls1 engines have a slightly bigger stroke than the old 350s. |
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08-26-2005, 02:43 PM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | i have an 84 sports coupe camaro with a 327 in it, go for it... if you want it to look good, take your time and rewire or get someone to rewire it. when i got the car and droped motor in the rest of the drive train was bone stock, held up fine, nothing broke i just upgraded it. so go for it |
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08-27-2005, 12:00 AM
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Car: 86 sports coupe-83 berlinetta Engine: 5.0 in the sports coupe-350 in the berlinetta Transmission: 700r4 in the sports coupe-turbo-350 with a 2500 stal in the berlinetta | Either way you go, any 4 inch bore or bigger chevy small block will run good. Its just a good design. With the camshaft selection and good heads we have today, if one uses common sense you cant go wrong.  |
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08-27-2005, 03:01 AM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Engine: THE LT1 SWAP SHALL BEGIN!!!! Transmission: 700 R4 Axle/Gears: LSD! =( | Quote: Originally posted by 84327power i have an 84 sports coupe camaro with a 327 in it, go for it... if you want it to look good, take your time and rewire or get someone to rewire it. when i got the car and droped motor in the rest of the drive train was bone stock, held up fine, nothing broke i just upgraded it. so go for it | What kind of wire harness do you use for a 327?
the 350 computer??? |
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08-27-2005, 10:44 AM
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Car: 84 SC Engine: 327 (Nova) Transmission: 700r4 | my 327 is carberated, i removed air, heat, smog system, basically everything thats electrical. the only thing yet is the distributer. so i didnt use a harness. but you can get a hassle free harness that shoudl only have what you need on it. pretty sure there called hassle free even... but like i said.. i just removed everything that was being used... computer included |
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08-27-2005, 12:38 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta 87 Iroc Engine: 327 | Quote: Originally posted by 84327power hey toca, lets compair sounds, my 327 has a mild cam, flat pistons, slightly better than stock intake and big *** carb, out through edelbrock headers to costom bent pipes to sidepipes that are basically straight pipes. send me your sound at darcren64@hotmail.com and ill get mine recorded | My engine is pretty much the same. I just have a edel performer cam and intake, flatop pistons, and a huge carb also. Tonight im ordering a edel rpm air gap intake and a different cam. |
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08-27-2005, 12:39 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta 87 Iroc Engine: 327 | Quote: Originally posted by Psycho_91Camaro Has anyone actually had a swap from a 305.350 to a 327 on 3rd gen camaro or firebird?
My friend is selling me a 327 engine taken from a 68 Camaro
But I don't know if I should get it, he's selling it to me for 50 dollars. | I had a swap from a 2.8 and 305 to a 327. |
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