Engine SwapEverything about swapping an engine into your Third Gen.....be it V6, V8, LTX/LSX, crate engine, etc. Pictures, questions, answers, and work logs.
Welcome to ThirdGen.org!
Welcome to ThirdGen.org.
You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join the ThirdGen.org community today!
So basically, a diesel from a 2500 truck will not fit into a camaro engine bay, am I correct? Im not really interested in one of the older, powerless unreliable diesels, kinda defeats the purpose of the swap. Will any v8 or inline 6 diesel engine fit into a camaro engine bay? (any generation?) Thanks for all the replys fellas
So basically, a diesel from a 2500 truck will not fit into a camaro engine bay, am I correct? Im not really interested in one of the older, powerless unreliable diesels, kinda defeats the purpose of the swap. Will any v8 or inline 6 diesel engine fit into a camaro engine bay? (any generation?) Thanks for all the replys fellas
Like said before all engines are 3 things, too heavy, too big, or gutless pieces of crap thats not worth the time and money required. The only thing feasable would be a 6.5 chevy and they are junk and if you did get a good running one it would take a LONG time to pay it off. The only thing I found that might work would be a vw tdi engine. These move jettas that are around the same weight as our cars and can be BOMB'd but adapting one to a chevy drivetrain and make it longitudally mounted instead of trasverse could be a challenge.
Burning vegetable oil, either waste vegetable oil from restruants or straight vegetable oil that is new requires a seperate fuel system that is heated and you have to shut off and start the engine on diesel so the fuel lines are fuel of diesel. After 5 minutes of running or sooner you can switch over to the veggie oil. This is FREE from restraunts, you just have to filter it. Biodiesel costs some to produce and is a process that takes a little more time but you dont have to have a seperate fuel system and try to recouperate the cost of the veggie system. Either way its a toss up I guess but I think the wvo is the way to go.
So instead of saving money in fuel..... lets really spend some money lol. Aviation fuel is like what... $4+ a gallon.... 6 gallons an hour would be like 12mpg...... assuming you travel 70 miles in one hour. I think they were going for fuel savings or lower fuel cost. niether is that idea lol
actually aviation jet fuel is just highly filtered diesel, and u can run diesel in it, u can run it of gas but it puts deposits on the turbine blades, trust me im a airplane mechanic by day stripper by nite happy motoring
So basically, my idea isnt feasable from how things are lookin. Im sure the new generation v8 diesels will be far too large, and the last generation 6.5s are too unreliable/not enough power, but how about a cummins straight 6? How does it compare to an sbc?
Cummins 6bt's like you are talking about weight somewhere around 1100 lbs if I remember right so thats right at twice as much as a sbc weighs. And they are huge, they are pretty hard to fit under the hood of a full size chevy truck let alone a car.
Cummins 6bt's like you are talking about weight somewhere around 1100 lbs if I remember right so thats right at twice as much as a sbc weighs. And they are huge, they are pretty hard to fit under the hood of a full size chevy truck let alone a car.
IF it were not for the height a Cummins 4BT would work well. They are in tons of GM P-series chassis, bolted to TH400 transmissions and equiped with a turbo. Goes pretty much the same place a small block will. I looked into one for my G20, but decided to go 350 TBI instead.
a little off topic but I have been looking for one for my 74 4x4, where do you find those 4bt's? any salvages that sell them? What year and trucks did they come in?
a little off topic but I have been looking for one for my 74 4x4, where do you find those 4bt's? any salvages that sell them? What year and trucks did they come in?
90's model box delivery vans is about all I know of that will get you most your hardware for the swap, like the bellhousing adaptor and maybe motor mounts if from a chevy van, the engines are pretty easy to find (they put them in about everything that needed a low cost diesel engine, power units, 40-70hp tractors(case IH and others) etc), if you can find one that is any good at a reasonable price. One from a box van would probably be the safer way to buy one as it may not be thrashed (cracked cylinder walls, chewed up cranks), like the ones used for other apps..
I bet my best bet would probably be a box truck, seems like you dont see any tractors around...they will run forever, but the box trucks will wear out pretty quick (not the cummins though!)
Hey all, lately I've been having crazy thoughts about diesel engines. The need for some kind of relief of gas prices sparked the thoughts for me. (Gas around here is over $1.20 a LIRTE, meaning about $4.54 a gallon) Turbo diesel engines such as the duramaxs and cummins now put out respectable horsepower numbers with amazing torque while staying easy on fuel. If they move a full size rig around at 20 mpg they would probably do well in a third gen. Has a swap like this happened before? Ive done a search and theres a few threads on it, but they dont really amount to anything. Before turning down the idea, give it some honest thought. The pros I can see would be greatly increased gas mileage, cheaper fuel (here, diesel is significantly cheaper than regular unleaded), respectable power, reiablility and long engine life (like 600k miles or whatever it is they get) great torque for a fun drive, the unique factor, and they are easily moddable. I also like and turbo spool and black cloud produced at WOT The cons I can think of is the engine weight, complication of the swap (things that need engine vaccuum.. computer stuff, etc) and low revving potential. Lets hear some thoughts.. try not to laugh too much
Man that's awful you should come and live in Saudi you will not want anything less than 454ci
gasoline price 1 liter = 0.6 SR >>> $1 = 3.75 SR , US dollar
diesel price 1 liter = 0.2 SR >>>> $1 = 3.75 SR
not really related to anything in this thread but I had to laugh about all the gas mileage related comments. Got me thinking about how my daily driven dodge ram gets around 10mpg on road. I get like 3 on the sand dunes. Its expensive, but its nice and it gets attention and girls
happy motoring 
