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Old 08-16-2009, 11:05 AM   #1
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CAN I KEEP MY 5 SPEED IF..

I have a 305 in my 88 wit a 5 speed trans. If i put a 350 in it will i b able to keep the 5 speed?? reason i ask is i know they never came factory with the 5.7 and 5 speed
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Yes. My car is exactly that.
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Old 08-16-2009, 05:01 PM   #3
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Yep, I'm running that setup in my 91 with no problems so far.
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Old 08-16-2009, 05:57 PM   #4
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Re: CAN I KEEP MY 5 SPEED IF..

I have read stories from both sides on this issue. From what I understand you need to ease in and out of gears before you pour on the torque. Once in gear you can feed the power on. Go slow in/out or you will fry the clutch.
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:40 AM   #5
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Re: CAN I KEEP MY 5 SPEED IF..

I also have put a 350 in a 5 speed car. What clutches do you guys use? I have a Zoom in mine and after 4000 miles it's toast.
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:53 AM   #6
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Yep, i have ad well over 400 HP in front of a 5 speed(world class) and it took a long time to break it.
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:51 PM   #7
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Re: CAN I KEEP MY 5 SPEED IF..

Yes, you can use your 5 speed with the 5.7L. My old engine was a 305 cid and swap to a 350cid 300hp Goodwrench engine. Works fine.

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Old 08-20-2009, 08:12 PM   #8
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Are you all using the "world class" T5?

I'm about to do this to my 88 but it has the the standard T5(i think) which I'm told is a real weak tranny?

Just picked up 95 LT1 350 out of a police cruiser. Rebuilt with comp cam (Xtreme Energy 276HR-14), worked vortec heads, etc... I'm thinkin I'll probably smoke the T5 in a week On a low budget so thought I would rebuild the T5 while the motor was out but is it worth the effort??
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:10 AM   #9
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T-56 imho
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:19 AM   #10
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If you drive reasonably, the T5, even a non-WC, should last a good long while--at least mine has.

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Old 08-21-2009, 09:16 AM   #11
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I have a V6 WC T5 behind my 350. It seems to be holding up ok. Sometimes is won't downshift from 5th to 4th, but I'm sure its due to some problems I ran into while rebuilding the transmission, not to any problems with being behind a 350. I haven't run it full out yet due to some tuning issues with my carb, but 1/2-3/4 throttle pulls haven't hurt it yet.

As for clutch disc, I had to use a slightly smaller one due to the V6's input shaft, but its a regular Autozone OEM replacement disc. It does slip a bit sometimes when I get on the throttle hard from a roll.
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Are you all using the "world class" T5?

I'm about to do this to my 88 but it has the the standard T5(i think) which I'm told is a real weak tranny?

Just picked up 95 LT1 350 out of a police cruiser. Rebuilt with comp cam (Xtreme Energy 276HR-14), worked vortec heads, etc... I'm thinkin I'll probably smoke the T5 in a week On a low budget so thought I would rebuild the T5 while the motor was out but is it worth the effort??

Good luck making GEN I heads work on a GEN II motor.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:47 PM   #13
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God luck making GEN I heads work on a GEN II motor.
LOL my bad they are the correct LT1 "cast iron"heads (gen 2) ;just read somewhere that they are almost identical so I called them Vortec DUH!!.

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Old 08-24-2009, 06:47 PM   #14
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I have a V6 WC T5 behind my 350. It seems to be holding up ok. Sometimes is won't downshift from 5th to 4th, but I'm sure its due to some problems I ran into while rebuilding the transmission, not to any problems with being behind a 350. I haven't run it full out yet due to some tuning issues with my carb, but 1/2-3/4 throttle pulls haven't hurt it yet.

As for clutch disc, I had to use a slightly smaller one due to the V6's input shaft, but its a regular Autozone OEM replacement disc. It does slip a bit sometimes when I get on the throttle hard from a roll.
I had no idea the V6 T5 would even bolt up. A 3rd or 4th gen V6 T5?
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:14 PM   #15
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if you change the bellhouseing on the T-5 to that of the V8 its a direct fit
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:01 AM   #16
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I had no idea the V6 T5 would even bolt up. A 3rd or 4th gen V6 T5?
Its a 3rdgen V6 T5. Its the one that was in the car when I got it. I had to change the bellhousing, clutch fork, flywheel and pressure plate to the ones from a V8. You can either buy a specially made clutch disc from Summit made by Centerforce or you can use one from an early 80's AstroVan. The AstroVan one is slightly smaller at something like 9 15/16 but it works. It slips a bit when I get on it, but that's probably due to the fact that I put in a used pressure plate.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:33 PM   #17
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U also have to cut the input shaft on v6 t5. to make it work.

And I had problems finding a clutch that works cause of the different splines. I dont think center forse makes that disk anymore.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:36 PM   #18
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Re: CAN I KEEP MY 5 SPEED IF..

I have 88 non wc t5 behind my 350 tpi. (300 hp) beat on it all the time never had a problem. Mind u my tires don't stick at all... And i blip the throttle when i down shift
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Old 08-28-2009, 08:50 AM   #19
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U also have to cut the input shaft on v6 t5. to make it work.

And I had problems finding a clutch that works cause of the different splines. I dont think center forse makes that disk anymore.
You're right about the input shaft. I don't know how I forgot about that since I cracked my bellhousing because of it. I was stupid and tried to use the bellhousing bolts to pull it against the engine instead of checking to see why it didn't want to fit. I cut about 1/4" off of mine and then spun it while holding an angle grinder against the nose of the input shaft to put the taper back on it.

The clutch I used is for an 82 GMC S15 with the 2.8L V6. Part number at Autozone is CP4201. Its 9 11/16" diameter and the list price is 25.99 w/ a core of 6.

I just checked Summit and you're right, they apparently don't make that conversion clutch disc anymore. The closest ones I found are 9.75" and 11". I can't remember if an 11" clutch disc will fit or not. You'll need one that fits a 14-spline 1" input shaft.
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