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Old 09-19-2009, 05:10 AM   #1
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Possible to swap a Vtec engine into my Firebird?

Hey,

I've been thinking lately of sticking the engine out of a 99 Integra Type R into my 86 Firebird. Is it even possible?

(I want the more reliable engine and more faster IMO)
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:04 AM   #4
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Re: Possible to swap a Vtec engine into my Firebird?

Skip the vtec and go with the vortech. It will be alot more reliable engine and a whole lot faster.
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Re: Possible to swap a Vtec engine into my Firebird?

The Type R makes about 130 lb ft torque, it will not be faster.

Also it turns the wrong way, you'll have multiple reverse gears and only 1 forward gear.

It also wont be any more reliable, the 88-98 civics and Integras up to 99 ( the last year produced) all have very failure prone distributors. There is no fix.

The B series blocks are also an open deck design and very prone to flexing and blowing head gaskets.

They have a really bad rod stroke ratio that only exacerbates that problem at higher HP levels.

The Type R in particular has issues making any extra HP without boost due to it's level of developement from the factory.

Swapping to RWD means a new intake layout that'll proabably cost you HP and torque, also due to the level of developement the engine has stock.

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Hey,

I've been thinking lately of sticking the engine out of a 99 Integra Type R into my 86 Firebird. Is it even possible?

(I want the more reliable engine and more faster IMO)
.....ugh...then why not just get a 99 integra...or im sure it is possible to make your firebird have the vtech motor....but while your at ityour going to have to make the front wheels drive the car.....and thats just stupid you can do ANYTHING....for a price. a very pricey price on that one. and im pretty sure lssix is right about the motor turning the other way haha
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Skip the vtec and go with the vortech. It will be alot more reliable engine and a whole lot faster.

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Hey,

I've been thinking lately of sticking the engine out of a 99 Integra Type R into my 86 Firebird. Is it even possible?

(I want the more reliable engine and more faster IMO)
why? I don't understand the point.
Where is that Wrong Wheel Drive Guy when you need him. Lol
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Where is that Wrong Wheel Drive Guy when you need him. Lol
Hey! I love my WWD Mazda I wouldnt think of dropping the little 2.5 V6 in a 3400 pound car though.
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Re: Possible to swap a Vtec engine into my Firebird?

After a long day at work, I needed a good chuckle. Thanks for the thread.


By the way, why would you spend more money putting a motor with half the cylinders and half the power of a cheap sbc? Doesn't make any sense...but if you DO make it happen, make sure to post pictures. I'm sure I'll need a good laugh then as well...lol
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:16 AM   #13
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Re: Possible to swap a Vtec engine into my Firebird?

that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard, after switching to american muscle from imports...i never want to go back...

no power...little engine room...expensive *** parts...bunch of electrical crap...ahhh a big headache
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We all want to go "more faster", that we can agree on. But your question is totally ridiculous.
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Dude I totally agree... we can slap twin turbos on that motor and produce like 300 hp!
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Are you doing this before or after you get the 30" rims you want?
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Don't forget to add naws when you're done.
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Dude I totally agree... we can slap twin turbos on that motor and produce like 300 hp!

Actualy 500+ horse at the wheels isnt a problem and build right it can make decent torque but in this case it dosnt make much sense to replace an understressed stock motor with an obviously over stressed modified motor.

A former builder of Nascar Prostock and Trans Am motors had a 90 Civic Si with a 1.5 L motor and a blower that puts out 480 HP on pump gas and runs 11's in the quarter.

It also sounds and drives like stock at part throttle and gets better than 30 MPG


I think the OP was just making an ignorant jab at GM reliability. Not that GM hasnt earned it's reputation but the SBC specificaly is dead reliable at 300 hp and less so throwing it out for "reliabilities" sake is pointless.

After 20 or so years the weak points in the 3rd gen have all been sussed out and are easily fixable.

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i think you guys scared him off lol.... he hasnt posted since...
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Re: Possible to swap a Vtec engine into my Firebird?

Somebody has watched Fast & Furious Tokyo Drift a few to many times.
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Somebody has watched Fast & Furious Tokyo Drift a few to many times.

Hmmm? I have an idea An RB26DETT in a 3rd gen (rather than a Mustang as in the movie) then it can drift against the 1st gen Camaro with the 2JZ Supra swap!
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Actualy 500+ horse at the wheels isnt a problem and build right it can make decent torque but in this case it dosnt make much sense to replace an understressed stock motor with an obviously over stressed modified motor.

A former builder of Nascar Prostock and Trans Am motors had a 90 Civic Si with a 1.5 L motor and a blower that puts out 480 HP on pump gas and runs 11's in the quarter.

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Anything can be built to run fast, his question was just plain stupid and you added some real world knowledge to it which he won't understand. Like the other poster said, too many Fast & Furious movies.
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Re: Possible to swap a Vtec engine into my Firebird?

There sure have been more and more trolls on the boards lately. You would think they'd have something better to do with their lives
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very funny, your not serious right?
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WTF? Is this a serious question?
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Re: Possible to swap a Vtec engine into my Firebird?

If I was ever going to swap a four cylinder anything into a thirdgen it would be a boosted ecotec sky/solstice engine. From what I hear they are the same as the Cobalt engines. I think that would make for a pretty sick little car. Something different for sure.
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I think we've discussed this sufficiently.
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