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Old 09-24-2009, 02:48 AM   #1
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How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

I have been out of the hot rod seen for about 7 years now..

and want to get back into it.. the old hot rod had a Linginfelter 383 sbc

was looking at a 420 back a few years ago...

starting with a new BowTie block.. say 400 maby alumn ($5.000)
whats out there and running Good now CID wise..

thanks

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Old 09-24-2009, 03:56 AM   #2
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

warhawk or lsx block can be done up to 427ci quite easy..
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:12 AM   #3
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

LS engines are not a SBC. They share nothing with the old SBC design.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:07 AM   #4
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

The 434 remains a strong choice for the old school guys. I still build 2 or 3 every year for my die-hard customers. 4.155" bore, 4" stroke, 6" rods and JE pistons. Top with AFR, or Dart Pro1 Platinum, heads. Add an Edelbrock Super Victor, whether going carb or EFI. Finally, still lose to the guys running the LS7 427 with just cam and headers. Plus you're still stuck with a distributor and a single ignition coil. To make power to 7200 rpm, the LS7 just needs pushrods, while you'll need a solid roller cam, COMP Endure-X lifters, and dual springs, plus aftermarket rockers, all in addition to good pushrods. Come on, bro, step into the modern age.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:34 PM   #5
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LS engines are not a SBC. They share nothing with the old SBC design.
I know, I just didnt know he was being technical.
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:19 PM   #6
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

will be looking for a short block to start with. and using all my other parts on it..the old end was a Lingenfelter 838 (480 490 Hp) 480 ft lbs tork
this was With out the NOS.
dont looK at the Dust.. car ran fantastic for 7/8 years broke in 02 and just slid her in the shack out back..and let her get dusty this is 7 years of sitting

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Old 09-24-2009, 01:24 PM   #7
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

tranny and rear end was all brand new and was on the way to the track when it broke...some thing in the eng went Clunk..that was it.. will not turn over even By hand.. looked under the rocker covers every thing is there.. dropped them back on and walked away..



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Old 09-24-2009, 01:31 PM   #8
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

makes me sick to think of all the cleaning ill have to do.. this was a show and go car for years back in the 1993 to 98 block.

i hope all the upper parts are ok.. heads. cam

every this was just gone over.. before the last brake..

it's got a big mech roller cam i just love..
gear drive..if you name the part it's on it.. at the time i did the eng it was over $10.000 just for that..thats just the eng not car tranny rear end NOS..just the eng.. im sick thinking it's just sitting there.. this way..



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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

Whether you wanna stay with the gen1 design or step up to the new lsx platform, 427 and 434's can be built on a standard deck height block, and 454 to 500+ cubic inches is possible with a tall deck block.
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Old 09-25-2009, 03:47 AM   #10
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

From what I've been seeing, all the REAL power is being made with big blocks. 502's, 572's, 632's, NRE has a 3,000 horsepower 705 project.

If only a simple guy like me had the cash to run a 3,000 horse big block in a Third Gen..
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:52 PM   #11
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

there making 454 sbc's now.....
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:13 PM   #12
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Re: How big are the small blocks now..406/420??

whent with a 11.8.1 427 sbc (could have Gone Bigger)same price
Mech Roller Cam
H beam rods
Dart Block
Forged Crank
Forged Pistons
Good set Alum Head's
super ram
1000Cfm Tb
36lb intrs
but now i can up the NOS to 190HP Hit for a bit longer...lol
never needed it under 3rd gear..

wanted to Keep this Upgrade Under $10.000...
and need to stop spending..NOW!

nexed time ill just send it off to fast time's and say
super size me.. 672 bbc!

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Old 11-19-2009, 10:49 PM   #13
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Envy has set in!!
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