Engine SwapEverything about swapping an engine into your Third Gen.....be it V6, V8, LTX/LSX, crate engine, etc. Pictures, questions, answers, and work logs.
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I dont have a scanner but I will see if I can help you since I did use the factory harness. It was not that bad at all.
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88' GTA w/ 93'Corvette LT1 absolutely bone stock
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Well I need someone who can tell me complete wiring for 10 pin blue connector, 10pin white connector, 4 pin back connector (ignition), also 2 pin black connector, (2 small wires). wiring the cooling fan for radiator and also wiring fuel pump to ECM
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
hey matt, sorry Ive been out of it for a while, guess you could use some help. Tell me where the 4 connectors are and Ill look at mine and see what they are.
Matt., Sorry dude, let you down again... My bag! Let's start with the With the white one:
| | Top White
|K|J|H|G|F|
|A|B|C|D|E|
White
K is DK GRN and is the coolant temperature feed to instrument cluster.
J is DK GRN/WHT and is fuel pump replay control
H is empty.
G is DK GRN/WHT and is vehicle speed signal.
F is GRY and is fuel pump motor feed.
A is RED and is Alternator feed to instrument cluster.
B is TAN and is oil pressure feed to instrument cluster.
C is BRN and is oil level feed to instrument cluster.
D is empty.
E is empty or if you have a manuel tranny it is the clutch anticipate signal and is GRY.
| | Top Blue
|K|J|H|G|F|
|A|B|C|D|E|
Blue
K is TAN/BLK and is (Automatic) torque converter clutch control.
J is ORN/BLK and is (Automatic) park/neutral feed from transmission position switch.
NOTE: If this vehicle is manuel the wire would be LT GRN and would be (manuel) backup lamp feed.
H is LT BLU/BLK and is (Automatic) TCC switched power feed.
NOTE: If this vehicle is manuel the would be be BRN and be (manuel) power from turn B/U fuse # 2 to backup switch and would be brown.
G is PNK and power feed from ECM IGN fuse # 5
F is DK GRN/WHT and is A/C request signal
E is DK BLU and is theft deterrent - fuel enable feed.
D is WHT and is techometer signal to instrument cluster.
C is WHT/BLK and is diagnostic request signal.
B is service engine soon indicator feed.
A is empty.
I am digging for VAT wire stuff.... Will get it to you shortly.
v/r
Ron
BTW., I now have most of my parts and hopefully will get started this weekend or next.. Wish me luck....
Also, I don't have a scanner...Wish I did.... I can find a bud or someone with a scanner if you the need arises....
Matt, As I stated in my previous post I am close to being ready to putting the LT1 in. Did you have problems with you motor mounts? By problems I mean did you have to do anything special to get the engine into the car? Also, Did you have problems with your A/C compressor? If so, what problems did you have?
Am working you others issues., will get to you ASAP (am reading book).
OK, I have a headache. I cannot find the 4 wire/connector in the "big book". I know it has to do with the knock sensor., but the book says that the knock sensor is DK BLU and my wire is Puple. I will keep looking but not tonight.
MULTI TASKING, YOU ROCKS THE HOUSE !, thanks alot, the 4 pin connectors i'm talking about, it's blackand it has the big wire for the starter's solenoid .
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
MULTI TASKING, YOU ROCKS THE HOUSE !, thanks alot, the 4 pin connectors i'm talking about, it's blackand it has the big wire for the starter's solenoid .
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
Well Multi tasking for the motor mounts, I had to cut it, press it and weld it to make it fit, the thing is you need to bolt the a/c compressor to the right motor mount, if you dont, a/c will vibrate ALOT !. Also, don't forget to sledge hammer your cross member before putting the engine in. the big PITA was to make power steering line, took meabout 4 hour to do something good.
Good luck
Guys, I got myself some shorty headman's header !!! I hope I'll reach 300 horses ! and be able to smoke those tires bad!
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
Matt., I know I found it...What I cannot find is where it connects in the 89. I also cannot find in the "big book" the small connector that is labeled A (BLK) B (BLU) C(TAN) (looks tan. If it in one of these books I can't find it. Not sure what it connects to either...
Matt., HP Salvage has a nice article concerning putting an LT1 into a 3rd Gen. I even sent them an email to confirm what was written. The fellow I "spoke" said if I used the RH motor mount from a 94 Caprice I would not have to do any cutting. I only need to "sledge hammer" the cross member. My question to you is did the A/C lines that exit the compressor fit after you sledge hammered the cross member or did you have to get different line?
Last question…About how long did you make the power steering line?
OK, for real., last question: What about fuel lines? What did you do?
when I did my swap neither the stock or the new AC lines fit. CarQuest makes a great little fitting that Im about to put on that is compact, and the best part about it is that you can turn the lines any dirction you need them to go because the fittings turn 90* right after it bolts onto the compressor
Multi tasking , can you find me wiring description on the black plug with 10 pin near the ECM, I know it has 2 pink wire but that's it . also there's 2 little wire connected to a little black 2 prong connector near the blue and white 10 pins connectors, can you help me ???
thanks
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
Matt that is C100. It connected (on the 93) to the underhood fuse block.
|A|B|C|D|E|
|K|J|H|G|F|
| |
A is PNK and is power feed from injector fuse 9
B is DK GRN/WHT and is A/C compressor relay control
C is DK GRN and is A/C compressor clutch solenoid feed
D is TAN and is serial data signal.
E is BRN and is Air Pump Replay Control.
F is BRN and is power feed from FANS/SOLs Fuse 6
G is PNK and is power feed from ignition fuse 11
H is DK BLU and is secondary coolant fan relay control
J is DK and is primary fan replay control.
K is PNK and is power feed from injector fuse 10.
I am using a Chilton's "Wiring and Vacumm Diagrams" to map the wires back to either my relays or fuse block or both....Not sure how its going to turn out -- have not finished writing that document.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE OTHER WIRE IS AND WE NEED TO FIND SOMEONE TO HELP US WITH IT.
WE ALSO NEED HELP ON THE BLACK CONNECTOR WITH THE THICK PINK STARTER WIRE GOING TO IT.
I'm thinking about doing a ram-air system, by taking 2 k&N air filter on a V6 2.8 air intake and then making a dock on the wind deflector under the nose of the car.maybe 2-4 hp gain .better than nothing.
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mat89RS: I'm thinking about doing a ram-air system, by taking 2 k&N air filter on a V6 2.8 air intake and then making a dock on the wind deflector under the nose of the car.maybe 2-4 hp gain .better than nothing.
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Like on the 2001 TA! Took me a sec to remember what ram-air is. Don't get to fancy with me., remember I have only being playing the role of mechanic since April.
[This message has been edited by multi-tasking (edited June 18, 2001).]
I found a problem ... on vats system there's a yel/blk cable that goes to the starter enable relay, 3rd gen f-body's don't have starter relay, can I custom build one ??? also I have a description of the 4 pin connectors with ignition cable.
labeled
ABCD
a=purple
b=blk/wht
c=orange
d=empty
and also the little 2 pin connector I was talking about has 3 pin , oups !! I know it has a blk and blue cable but for the 3rd one I'm not sure, It looks like gray..maybe beige ..
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
Never mine., I found it --- will have to do some reading... Looks like there is a .8 YEL/BLK coming off A1(86) of the starter enable relay going to A4(??) of the PASS-Key II module.
There is also a YEL (size unknown) coming off C2(85) going to a splice that ends up a "hot at all times" crank fuse 17 which is 3AMPS.
There is a DK GRN A2(87) wire of unknown size that ends up at the starter solenoid (changes from DK GRN to PPL). And, C1(30) go to the same fuse via the same splice that I mentioned.
The starter enable relay is the same as the hatch release and fuel pump relay so you should be able to buy it at any parts store.
Well Matt, today is the day. We are going to pull the V6 after work.... And take it to the junk-yard (life is good!)
[This message has been edited by multi-tasking (edited June 21, 2001).]
good luck to you multi, it's not hard, you know what ? I got myself a pair of headman headers for free today and also got new spark plug wire for 100$ canadian.
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
Very cool... Headers for 100 bucks., that is nice... You are right C210 is a connector not a module. The pass-key connector plugs into the pass-key module. The c210, c220 and c230 connectors plug in under the dash near the blower motor. Having a hard time with C210 because I can find where all the wires go except the ORN one.
Matt you have the same engine as I do, what did you do with the A.I.R stuff. Did you take it off., if so how?
Multi-tasking it seems that your head is rushing like crazy right now ,just like mine !!! can't stop thinking about swap !
hmmm...right now I can't fallow you because I don't understand what your saying but I'll try to keep up with you ! your last 3 posts are very confusing !!!!
didn't get the header for 100$, got them for free and I bought spark plug wire for 100$
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
multi-tasking
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posted June 21, 2001 01:25 PM
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Very cool... Headers for 100 bucks., that is nice... You are right C210 is a connector not a module. The pass-key connector plugs into the pass-key module. The c210, c220 and c230 connectors plug in under the dash near the blower motor. Having a hard time with C210 because I can find where all the wires go except the ORN one.
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FiReBReTHa: hey guys.
where does all the wiring work happen? under the dash buy the stock computer spot?
any one have pics (hopes)
Thanx</font>
If your underhood harness is complete., yes its all under the dash. I got the service manuel for the 93. Did not want to buy a new harness(:-). Buying one would have been easier. If you need something ask--I will try to help.
multi, I've tried to test my passkey module witch an multimeter and nothing is happenning, can you test yours to see if there's anything special ???
I've plug the 2 power cable and the ground and then put the resistence between the 2 wire, and check the fuel enable signal, starter enable signal and also scurity light indicator control ...
is there anyway to know if it works fine ??
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89 Camaro RS Stock as a women with white panties
LT1 IS COMMING SOON.
hate to say it but as far as I know there isnt a way to test it, I remember one of the signals being a modulated one that I dont think the multimeter would have read. but then again, I may be opposite side of the road with that one
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TexasLT1: hate to say it but as far as I know there isnt a way to test it, I remember one of the signals being a modulated one that I dont think the multimeter would have read. but then again, I may be opposite side of the road with that one</font>
Actually TexasLT1, its testable., just looking at the book it easier to test after the harness/VATS have been installed in the car and connected to the ignition.
Matt, I will send you the 3 or 4 pages from the book that you will need. Did you get the other stuff I sent? Did it do you any good?
