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Old 03-23-2010, 12:17 AM
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was curious if anyone has done a v10 or v12 swap in a thirdgen f-body. would it be something incredibly hard to do or is it just another engine swap or something like a ls series swap? something diffrent ya know? lol anyhow thanks for your help.
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What v10 or v12?

Thats like asking if anyone has ever put swapped tires on thier car but not stating what tires.
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I assume you mean a Ford V10 or a Dodge V12.

I recall seeing non-member pics of an in-progress V12, I think it was, into a 1st gen f-body several years ago, didn't look like much of a final product was in store. Hacked up a perfectly good car with no apparent possibility of ever being able to drive the thing.

Try your own and get back with us on the results. Somehow, I'm just not interested enough in this to do my own search.
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Re: v10 and v12

For the same cost to swap in a Viper V 10, you could probably swap in a turboed LS7, fully built to the hilt, and still have money left over. If you are thinking of a lambo 12 or something, forget it, my boss bought a replacement engine for his lambo, and it was just shy of $18,000, not $1800, no, add another zero! That is a little excessive for an engine that I could get an LS7 or LS9 with a built trans instead, and still have enough money for beer for the whole year.

Good luck though, I never shoot down an idea, but I'm poor because the military doesn't pay squat, and I'm just looking to swap in a LS2 and T56, if I could afford to play with Viper engines, I'd give it a shot.
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There was a Viper v10 swap on here several years back. It was done so the car would have better gas mileage and reliability compared to the high strung v8 that was under the hood.
I've got a neighbor selling a 5 liter BMW v12 for $1200. I was tempted..... They are long, but they "should" fit just fine. Getting everything to work together is another issue.
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I think you would need unlimited funds $$$ to do such a project.
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Re: v10 and v12

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What v10 or v12?

Thats like asking if anyone has ever put swapped tires on thier car but not stating what tires.
sorry i was thinking a exotic v12 like a lambos or ferrari's
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I assume you mean a Ford V10 or a Dodge V12.

I recall seeing non-member pics of an in-progress V12, I think it was, into a 1st gen f-body several years ago, didn't look like much of a final product was in store. Hacked up a perfectly good car with no apparent possibility of ever being able to drive the thing.

Try your own and get back with us on the results. Somehow, I'm just not interested enough in this to do my own search.

i ment a ferrari's, lambo, or something more exotic v10 or v12 engine. i searched but couldnt find squat.
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For the same cost to swap in a Viper V 10, you could probably swap in a turboed LS7, fully built to the hilt, and still have money left over. If you are thinking of a lambo 12 or something, forget it, my boss bought a replacement engine for his lambo, and it was just shy of $18,000, not $1800, no, add another zero! That is a little excessive for an engine that I could get an LS7 or LS9 with a built trans instead, and still have enough money for beer for the whole year.

Good luck though, I never shoot down an idea, but I'm poor because the military doesn't pay squat, and I'm just looking to swap in a LS2 and T56, if I could afford to play with Viper engines, I'd give it a shot.
dang that aint cheap i dont think i would ever do it unless i had a good fund of money but if i was to i think i would probaly pick up a nice red (or blacked out) 91/92 z28 camaro as i think they kinda have a exotic car look to them. also now thinking of it would it even work with having the v10's and v12's in lambos and such in the rear of the car? ls2 aint nothing to give crap about though hell im stuck with a stock 305tpi engine im just trying to throw out a idea or two. a built ls7 or even something like a ls1 does sound nice right now
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There was a Viper v10 swap on here several years back. It was done so the car would have better gas mileage and reliability compared to the high strung v8 that was under the hood.
I've got a neighbor selling a 5 liter BMW v12 for $1200. I was tempted..... They are long, but they "should" fit just fine. Getting everything to work together is another issue.
has the guy done any recent updates about the car? i couldnt find nothing in the search. also what would be nice instead of a ferrari v12 is a benz black series (cant think of model) twin turbo 6.2 v12 with around 700hp/800tq stock, and you know there is still potential in that engine.
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Re: v10 and v12

With the amount of money it would take... just buy an Exotic. Most really aren't that wonderful of motor. Buy a LS9 or LS7 and swap it in, save yourself a ton of money and get a more reliable motor.
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a few years ago i saw a magazine that put a ford v-10 (it was a truck motor?) in a fox-body 5.0. it was memerable because after they took it off the lift one of the guys picked up the back end of the car about 3ft off the ground by himself.
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Being that nose heavy makes torque a terrible thing

Jag and BMW V10/V12 engines are the more common swaps. Ive never seen one into a 3rd gen, but swaps are generally dealt with in the same manner. Fitment, modification, mounts, exhaust, control system, integration
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Re: v10 and v12

Theres a Jag V12 Miata if you search youtube


Originally Posted by camarotucker
a few years ago i saw a magazine that put a ford v-10 (it was a truck motor?) in a fox-body 5.0. it was memerable because after they took it off the lift one of the guys picked up the back end of the car about 3ft off the ground by himself.

Been done, by ford. http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea...ang/index.html

Ford Gives This Boss Mustang a Monster V-10

Bo Derek need never feel threatened by its looks, but this V-10 Mustangsure has some powerful inner beauty
February, 2009
By Dale Amy
Photography by Dale Amy



Horse Sense: We'd love to...

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Horse Sense: We'd love to get the Boss 351 on a road course. It has morepower--and apparently better weight distribution--than the vaunted '00Cobra R. How much fun would that be?



"Whaddya wanna do today?"

"Oh, I don't know. Why don't we whip up an all-aluminum, short-deck, modular V-10, stick it in a Mustang, and call up those boneheads at the car magazines?"




"Sounds good. I was gettin' a little bored."




This is most assuredly not how the project began for the talented enthusiasts at Ford Motor Company's Powertrain Research & Advanced Engines division (they never even thought of us magazine boneheads), and they are never bored with this kind of hardware around. But it does make one wonder just how such a seemingly unlikely bit of vehicular R&D ever saw the light of day.


This amazing spectacle is...

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This amazing spectacle is run like two inlinefive-cylinders by twin EEC V processors.



Had someone whispered to us even a few months ago that there was a New-Edge GT running around Detroit, wearing manufacturer's plates, and packing a DOHC 10-cylinder underhood, we would have laughingly dismissed the suggestion as fume-induced gearhead fantasy. Well, it turns out this thing has been unceremoniously prowling the streets of Motor City for more than a year now, proving once again that we should never be close-minded in this occasionally madcap business.

First, let's be clear that the 5.8 V-10 that is the centerpiece of this story has absolutely nothing in common with the cast-iron, tall-deck 6.8 10-banger found in Super Duty pickups and Excursions. Instead, this is an all-new engine that is most accurately visualized as a 4.6 Cobra short-block with two additional cylinders grafted on, and topped by similarly stretched Cobra R DOHC heads, resulting in an all-aluminum V-10 of surprisingly compact external dimensions and manageable weight. To be specific, it is some 60 pounds lighter than the 5.4 engine found in the '00 Cobra R. By adding the 25-percent displacement increase of two extra pots onto a 281, you get 351 ci. Therefore, it was only natural that the '99 GT it was strapped into should come to be known, in-house, as the Boss 351. Besides, the decals that emblazoned the '71 original of the same name were a cheap purchase, fitting nicely within the project's skinflint budget.
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Re: v10 and v12

Heres my suggestion... http://www.lextreme.com/V12.html it's about the best balance between mainstream and exotic that you'll likely ever find.

The power rating is likely significantly under stated since the japanese manufacturers had an "agreement" not to produce more than 280 CHP in the home land.

Example the US spec 2JZ turbo was rated at 320 CHP, the jap spec motor came with up rated turbos and more agressive timing for the high grade fuel they have over there and was rated at just 280! 40 CHP less than the dumbed down world spec car.
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