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12-21-2006, 09:56 PM
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Car: '78 Camaro Engine: '87 TPI Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: '81 WS6 Disks-3.90:1 | Stumbled into this thread while cruising a search for swapping in screw-in rocker studs, and I have enjoyed it more than any I can remember in a long time! Thanks for the time you spent in taking AND posting the pics, thanks for the laughs I got from your good sense of humour and thanks for showing others that there isn't anything to be scared of, just do the research, and go for it!
I was just wanting to find a way to NOT buy the stud pulling tool... ;^)
Good luck on the motor, and good luck with marriage; I got married at the Little White Chapel in 2000. Standing under the carport...we got OUT of the limo.
Wish mine would scrape crud off my cars...writing on tape is too much for her...  |
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12-21-2006, 10:49 PM
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Car: 1986 Camaro Z28, 1986 SC Engine: 305(LG4), 2.8V6 Transmission: 700R4, 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.23, and 3.42 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Stingray69 Stumbled into this thread while cruising a search for swapping in screw-in rocker studs, and I have enjoyed it more than any I can remember in a long time! Thanks for the time you spent in taking AND posting the pics, thanks for the laughs I got from your good sense of humour and thanks for showing others that there isn't anything to be scared of, just do the research, and go for it!
I was just wanting to find a way to NOT buy the stud pulling tool... ;^)
Good luck on the motor, and good luck with marriage; I got married at the Little White Chapel in 2000. Standing under the carport...we got OUT of the limo.
Wish mine would scrape crud off my cars...writing on tape is too much for her...  | id just buy the tool, your goingt o need it anyways when you tap the holes(it also aligns the tap) |
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01-19-2007, 01:28 AM
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS Engine: Vortec headed 350 soon... Transmission: T56 soon... Axle/Gears: 9-bolt 3.27 soon... | Very cool thread, I learned a lot! |
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02-04-2007, 01:29 AM
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#54 | | Senior Member
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Car: 85 Z28 Engine: LG4 modified Transmission: 700R4 | Well I'm happy to hear everyone's learning and laughing, becuase that's what this thread is all about!
I trust everyone had a nice Christmas etc. My car has suffered due to the after-Christmas post-wedding pinch (did I say pinch? Vice Grip seems more appropriate) but yesterday I did a little tiny bit which has made the engine look more like....an engine!
The engine has a new home. It's currently residing next door to my Dad's project, a Ford GT40. His project is more interesting than mine, so you get one picture and then we move on :
The timing cover is on :
The harmonic balancer and crank pulley :
And finally, the oil pump pick-up :
Next I'm going to purchase a tapping set and tap the heads for screw-in studs. With new springs fitted, the heads will be ready for painting and fitting! |
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02-04-2007, 09:16 AM
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Car: 1986 Camaro Z28, 1986 SC Engine: 305(LG4), 2.8V6 Transmission: 700R4, 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.23, and 3.42 | you will also need a alignment tool for tapping the heads because if they arnt tapped straight youll have nothing but problems |
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02-04-2007, 03:22 PM
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#56 | | Senior Member
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Car: 85 Z28 Engine: LG4 modified Transmission: 700R4 | Quote:
Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER you will also need a alignment tool for tapping the heads because if they arnt tapped straight youll have nothing but problems | Yes, a couple of people have mentioned some kind of alignment tool. I better get looking, as I want this project finished for the summer. I need to drive up and down the seafront with a V8 burble at the rear, some good tracks on the MP3 player up front and a big grin in the middle. And you don't get it from a Renault 5 1.4i Campus. |
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02-04-2007, 07:48 PM
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Car: 1986 Camaro Z28, 1986 SC Engine: 305(LG4), 2.8V6 Transmission: 700R4, 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.23, and 3.42 | make sure you get the paint off the oil pan gasket surface, it may cause leaks, along with the deck of the block, it dosnt take much to cause a leak
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02-24-2007, 04:45 AM
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Car: 89 Camaro w/ 92 gfx Engine: 305 TPI Transmission: 700R4 Modified Axle/Gears: 3:42...Auburn | Where are you at now with the project?
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02-26-2007, 05:45 PM
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#59 | | Senior Member
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Car: 85 Z28 Engine: LG4 modified Transmission: 700R4 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsblue89 Where are you at now with the project? | Well, Wednesday is my birthday and I think I may be receiving a couple of bits for the engine. I haven't been able to do much for a little while, except for cleaning the crud off the sump. I should have some more pictures on Saturday though! |
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02-26-2007, 05:47 PM
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Car: iroc Engine: 5.7 350 Transmission: auto | cant wait |
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02-28-2007, 04:38 AM
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Car: Was 3rd Gen now MustangGT Engine: 302 Transmission: Auto Axle/Gears: 3:73:1 | Quote:
Originally Posted by si_camaro Well, Wednesday is my birthday and I think I may be receiving a couple of bits for the engine. I haven't been able to do much for a little while, except for cleaning the crud off the sump. I should have some more pictures on Saturday though! | All round to yours for beer and cake then.
Have a good day. |
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04-01-2007, 04:13 PM
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Car: 85 Z28 Engine: LG4 modified Transmission: 700R4 | Hello one and all
It's been a while, but I finally managed to find a few hours away from the cruelty of real life and decended to the grimey depths of my rebuild for an afternoon. Well, the sun was shining and I had beer.
My dad bought me a 7/16" tapping set, so I set to work on my heads
I had been looking around for a guide so that the holes were tapped straight, but with a taper tap it was no problem at all without one
Next came the tedious task of lapping the valves. My hands haven't been this red and sore since I was a teenager...
A new set of valve seals
A spanking new set of super duper strong valve springs
And yes, the old caps and rotators. I had to let the budget step in at some point, or this car will never be on the road.
Apart from screw-in studs, there's nothing left for these heads...
...apart from making them match the block
Which reminds me. Anyone know where I can find some collarless studs? I really don't fancy milling the stud bosses for normal ones.
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04-13-2007, 04:24 PM
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#63 | | Senior Member
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| Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Love the sore hands comment!! I had the same lapping in the valves on my Lotus engine last summer - same number of valves as the SBC!
Si - I also just wanted to say thanks for such an enjoyable thread with so many informative pictures. |
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04-16-2007, 02:14 AM
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#64 | | Senior Member
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Car: Was 3rd Gen now MustangGT Engine: 302 Transmission: Auto Axle/Gears: 3:73:1 | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Its a while since i have done all that, you can cheat if you use an electric drill, keep the valve stem well oiled as you lap it in, but you cant beat the old methods.  |
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05-15-2007, 05:27 PM
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Car: 85 Z28 Engine: LG4 modified Transmission: 700R4 | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Right. Now I can almost taste the exhaust fumes.
Here I have bolted the heads back on and fitted the water pump. Oh and the fuel pump. And the starter motor. Ok so I forgot my camera last time.
This must be the most painful purchase of the lot. Ł45.00 and yet it looks like something out of the pound shop.
Screwed in with a blob of thread lock
A spot of white lithium grease on the bottoms of the lifters
New pushrods
I have heard mixed opinions on the china wall gaskets versus silicone sealant. So I used both
I went for the Edelbrock Performer manifold as mine was on it's last legs
Looks good on the top. I think I'll leave it there.
Rockers fitted but not fully adjusted yet
A sneak preview with the rocker covers and air cleaner "installed". I have also fitted a Sprite injection system. Tastes good, and 35 limes to the gallon....
In the next couple of weeks, the engine goes back in the car. Watch this space!! |
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05-16-2007, 08:54 AM
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#66 | | Junior Member
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Car: 1991 camaro rs Engine: 305 tbi Transmission: auto | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination coming along very nicely! |
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05-16-2007, 08:40 PM
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#67 | | Senior Member
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Car: 92 Camaro RS, 00 Jeep GC,06 Liberty Engine: 305TBI, til it pukes Transmission: Auto | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Quote:
Originally Posted by eejtagain You useless ****! | Evidentally, You were the useless one! And to think, you won't even get to ride in the car when it's done.  |
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05-17-2007, 01:01 PM
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#68 | | Senior Member
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Car: 1986 Camaro Z28, 1986 SC Engine: 305(LG4), 2.8V6 Transmission: 700R4, 700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.23, and 3.42 | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination white lithium was not the thing to use on those lifters, you should have used assembly lube or what should have come with the cam, carne also has this grey moly paste, flat tappets are tough to break in very easy to wibe a lobe... where are your intake gaskets, guarantee without em your gonna have leaks, did you re-use the water pump or fuel pump, i hope you didnt, it preventative maintenance to replace them when its apart
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05-17-2007, 04:05 PM
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Car: 87 TA Engine: 350 Transmission: auto | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Top job fella, thoroughly enjoyed the thread and strangely felt quite involved with your re-build. I guess your itching to get it running again.
Hopefully i'll see you around as i'm just down the road in Southampton.
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05-17-2007, 04:06 PM
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Car: 85 Z28 Engine: LG4 modified Transmission: 700R4 | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Quote:
Originally Posted by CYARS92 Evidentally, You were the useless one! And to think, you won't even get to ride in the car when it's done.  | Ok, think I must have missed something there. This eejtagain must have no life of his own if he needs to poke his big nose into other people's.... Quote: |
Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER white lithium was not the thing to use on those lifters, you should have used assembly lube or what should have come with the cam, carne also has this grey moly paste, flat tappets are tough to break in very easy to wibe a lobe... | Wiping a lobe is one of my biggest worries, so I have spent a long time on the boards researching this one. I did coat the cam with the red lube stuff which came supplied with it, but wanted something on the bottoms of the lifters also. I installed the lifters a long while after the cam, so naturally the little pouch of lube has gone... Quote: |
Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER where are your intake gaskets, guarantee without em your gonna have leaks | They are definitely there, I just didn't take a picture as I had paste on my hands! Quote: |
Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER did you re-use the water pump or fuel pump, i hope you didnt, it preventative maintenance to replace them when its apart | I considered replacing both items, but as they are so easy to replace when the engine is in the car I decided to cut back on the spending a little and get the engine back in and running.
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Originally Posted by banker Top job fella, thoroughly enjoyed the thread and strangely felt quite involved with your re-build. I guess your itching to get it running again.
Hopefully i'll see you around as i'm just down the road in Southampton. | With cars like ours, it's not hard to be seen so I'm sure our paths will cross!
I went and collected the seats from my brother's shed yesterday. They stayed in my runabout overnight, and when I got in it in the morning the car smelled like my Camaro. That made me want to get it running more than ever...
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05-27-2007, 04:38 PM
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Car: 85 Z28 Engine: LG4 modified Transmission: 700R4 | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Well, the day came. The weather held (just), and the engine has finally been reunited with the engine hole.
When I arrived at my dad's GT40 garage, the fairies had very kindly hoisted the engine
Thanks to my brother, we had access to a van. So the engine was placed to the right, the hoist in the middle, and me to the left stopping it from sliding around too much.
We removed the hood and wheeled the engine over the bay.
Memories of the engine removal came flooding back, and it soon became apparent that the engine-pulling-out-forwards issue could not be easily reversed, no matter how hard I pushed. So we did this;
The pools on the floor are my tears.
I opted against photographing the ensuing couple of hours, as they brought frustration and injury. No matter how hard we tried, the engine refused to drop in. And it was only by half an inch or so each time. The engine mount bracket would rest on the mount, or the exhaust header would rub on the steering rack (don't even tell me I should have fitted them afterwards, because I did that when they were new and I nearly torched the car in frustration)
Finally, after just the right amount of persuasion, in she went.
I have attached the bumper with half the bolts, as I plan to remove it again and treat some of the rust before permanently fitting it again. I have learned 2 things from this experience:
1. Remove the bumper when lifting the engine
2. Don't leave the gearbox behind and then think it'll "just line up" |
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06-02-2007, 04:14 AM
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Car: 87 TA Engine: 350 Transmission: auto | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Great to see the heart back in your car. Are you considering going to the Summer Nationals at Billing as a maiden voyage for your car?
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06-02-2007, 05:39 AM
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Car: '87 iroc camaro Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700-R4 Axle/Gears: 3.27 posi | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Great work mate. just imagine the day you turn the key for the first time |
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06-03-2007, 04:34 PM
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Car: 85 Z28 Engine: LG4 modified Transmission: 700R4 | Re: A Step-By-Step Rejuvination Quote:
Originally Posted by banker Great to see the heart back in your car. Are you considering going to the Summer Nationals at Billing as a maiden voyage for your car? | I'll certainly consider going if the car is ready by then. I may stick to something more local as a maiden voyage though, just in case I break down! Quote: |
Originally Posted by fin170703 Great work mate. just imagine the day you turn the key for the first time | I know, and the closer I get the more I think about it. It's been 2 years since I last turned the key (and anything happened). Here's where I'm at after a long hot Saturday. Carb is on, along with a few more bits and pieces. I've fitted the radiator on with cable ties for now, as the old viscous fan shroud is long gone and I plan on making a stainless steel one for the dual electric fans, once I can get the car to my dad's garage!  |  | | | |