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i got a 89 iroc. 305 tpi. i currently have a hedmen headers, accel 8.8mm wires, hypertech chip (stage 2), open box, free mods, accel coils, flowmaster exhaust, tornado, air fowl with stock throttle body, b&m shifter, monster tach, posi, stock gears, modified mass air flow sensor. i was running 15's in hawaii. i was told that with these mods it suppose to be quicker. so what do you guys think with these mods? should i be in the 14's since we adjusted my cars timing. it was on 28 degrease. it was real off. so we adjusted it to 7 degrease. should my time be better now?
Is that 28 degrees base timing? If so that would cause some power loss. Base timing should be about what you set it at, on a stock motor. More modified motors may need more base timing though...
tornado... gone
hypercrap chip... gone
timing... go to 10*.. thats about as far as that hypercrap is taking you... cant go much farther then that with out the ecu correcting you and setting it back. I need to find someone with an advanced timing light so i can start playing around.
__________________ 87 Camaro Z28 Waiting for LS1/4L60E transplant. Tons of TPI parts for sale 2009 Malibu LT 2.4: The comfy daily driver www.GMInsidenews.com www.NJFBOA.org
Edlebrock TES headers, Dynomax cats, 3 inch catback with a Spintech muffler w/dual 3 inch outlets, capped w/Hooker Large Bore tips w/resonators(3"inlet-4" outlet).
__________________ 1990 Formula Firebird(TPI305/5 speed)
Mods: ZZ4 350SLP/TPI,LT4 Hot cam, AFR 190s, Tremec 5 speed, and Moser 12 bolt(4.11s).
Best run w/BFG Drag Radials
60-----2.103
1/4----13.409
MPH–-104
on the Z28, i've got slp 1 3/4 headers, a 3" bend to a cutout, to a flowmaster single in single out . american thunder or force 2 i think.. probalby the force two. that's got a vortec headed 355
the formula.. stock manifolds, stock stuff till you get to the same 3" force 2 catback as the Z28 that's a 305 tpi 5spd
Mods:
Suspension: Eibach pro kit springs, KYB struts, shocks, and TDS wonder bar, SFC's
Induction: K&N air filter, 52mm throttle body, port matched SLP runners and plenum. AFPR
Exhaust: Hooker headers with Jet-Hot, Catco cat, and Hooker Cat-back.
Tranny: built up 700r4 with Trans-go shift kit
cooling: Griffin radiator,185 Degree therm, 200 degree Fan switch
Future modes: New seats
1991 Camaro Z-28
5.7L V8 TPI
Coated 1 3/4 Slp Headers
Dual Flowtech Cutouts before cats (Electronic ones soon)
Dual stock cats
Magnaflow 3" stainless cat back with straight through muffler and 3.5" Dual polished Stainless tips
Rich and reasonable untill 2000rpm when it gets a lot louder, which can definetly make a reasonable point before burning a mooshtang (Closed cutouts)
Unbelievable and undescibably loud but still low piched and not at all scratchy. MMMMMMM, it gives me the chills even thinking about it. Un fortionately the cops arent happy about it. (open dual cutouts)
*Does any one know exaust volume laws or where i can get them for Illinois, the chicago land area, specificaly Deerfield where i live and dirve the most.
Originally posted by Frains90RS 305 TBI w/ 1 5/8" VHT painted Hooker Super Competition shorties and y pipe, hi-flow CATCO cat 3in./3out. , Hooker Aero- Chamber Catback with 2 1/2" tailpipes and turndown tips.
do you have a sound clip becuase im going to run that set-up?
Pontiac 455 With Hooker Super Comp HEaders. 3 Inch collectors into 3 inch cutouts into 3 inch flowmasters true dual exhasut. Oh yah its on my first gen bird
82 Indy pace car, 383, allumicote shortie headers, true dual following stock exhaust route! no cat, glasspacks to dual 3" tailsout the drivers rear! Too loud!! changing to turbo muffs!
i have a 91 rs 305 tbi and i was thinking of getting slp headers right into side pipes for jc whitney. take out the size g/fx and put them there. i was just wondering if anyone has done that
Originally posted by nolanr0413 stock mailfolds and cat , no muffler and then two ss z28 style tips. it sounds sweet .
Same here... stock manifolds (for now) with the stock 2.5"
Y pipe into a 3" cat and 3" pipe all the way out (no muffler).
Still working on what I want to do for the tip(s).
I used to have the 2.5" pipe w/out the cat and a crossflow
flowmaster, but my motor didn't like the restrictiveness of the
flowmaster. The car run's 100 times better now running just
the cat and no muffler... not to mention it sounds great!
Here's mine...
Dual Exhaust 2 1/2 pipe, Dynomax racing bullets and Hooker satin coated headers.
Engine:
383 stroker
Holley Street Avenger
March Pully system
Be Cool Radiator
Dart II Heads
Forged pistions, crank
Eagle rods
Crane roller rockers
Edelbrock RPM Air gap intake
Mike...just to let you know, it wasnt the Flowmaster that was restrictive on your car, it was the kinked up stock 2 1/4" pipe you were running. Of course its gonna run better with 3" all the way out. By the way...you gotta hear your old muffler on my 84. Sounds great. Might have woke it up a little bit too. See ya at the Pavs.
Originally posted by 1989t-topGTA Mike...just to let you know, it wasnt the Flowmaster that was restrictive on your car, it was the kinked up stock 2 1/4" pipe you were running. Of course its gonna run better with 3" all the way out. By the way...you gotta hear your old muffler on my 84. Sounds great. Might have woke it up a little bit too. See ya at the Pavs.
Joe
Joe... Just to let you know, I wasn't running 2 1/4" pipe. I had
2 1/2" piping throughout the entire set up. Besides, running
the 3" cat with the new piping sounds a lot better than that
cross flowmaster. *L* Too bad there's no room for a 40 series.
I'm glad you like my old muffler... I might be getting a dynomax
bullet put on...or I'm going to finish off the tip(s).
2 1/4, 2 1/2...who cares. Was still choking it. Hell, the stock exhaust on my 84 is choking it. And my L69 exhaust is a lot better than your old LG4 exhaust. What I wouldnt give to have my old Edelbrock headers and SLP catback back in my possesion. Im glad youre happy with your new exhaust, but if I were you, id be putting a muffler on that thing. BTW, you sure youre gonna use those headers? Ill be more than happy to take them off your hands. Gimme a call. Later man.
Originally posted by 383backinblack thats kinda neat, but why wouldn't you just build a double hump cross member to do that instead of cutting up your frame rails?
There are a couple reasons I could see for him. First he has the spohn crossmember and torque arm. You have it easy because you have the lift bars. Also, he has an auto, and there isnt really much room to run the exhaust beside the auto's or make a double hump crossmember. I just swapped to a t-56 and had a custom crossmember made to clear my duals and it worked out pretty good, but I dont think it would have done any good with the auto.
Ben
__________________ 86 GN - GT67, B&M Trans Cooler, Built Trans w/ many upgraded parts, 3200 Vigilate Stall, CAI, RJC Power Plate, 3.5" THDP, DMH electric cutout, home built 3" mandrel bent exhaust w/ spintech muffler, Translator Plus, 3.5" MAF, q-boost controller, Walbro GSS340M, hotwire kit, 60#injectors, and 275 60 15 ET Street Radials out back.
On the way- Powerstroke(mounted, but needs plumbing ran), and Alky. (hopefully ported heads before too long)
13.035 @ 102.28 on stock turbo and ic on pump gas w/ 1.77 60 ft.
Vortex catback with damn near straight through design designed by Cherry bomb, Edelbrock tubular exhaust headers (black ones, not the shiney nice ones... ) 2 1\2 that should have been 3 >.<
Edlebrock TES 1 5/8 headers, Catco 3"inlet/outlet hi flo cat, Flowmaster American Thunder Cat-Back exhaust w/ single 3" inlet & dual 3
sounds really well even on my 305 tbi
__________________ 91 RS mods: 342 posi rear, spohn lca's and panhard rod with relocation brackets,ls1 driveshaft, built 700r4 trans with slp 2400 converter, b+m trans cooler, stewart stage 2 water pump, 1 5/8 edelbrock headers with 3' flowmaster exaust, 3 inch catco cat, i , msd distributor and msd wires, walbro 190 fuel pump, 58 mm throttle body, slp runners, ported stock intake. ac delete.
* Putting her together after 5 yrs of sitting . 350 tpi going in finally!
1987 carb. 350 cu. in. Firebird. Hedman shorty headers(pn 68470), Hedman Y-pipe(Pn 17470) with 3" end replacing 2.5" end and Flowmaster catback system for single 3" cat (pn17151) without a cat. Flows great , sounds good, fits well.
I have headmen longtube headers with a flat colecter and 3" duels and mufflers and pipe i made at work. it sounds great and i only lost a 10nth in the 1/8 at the strip
Lost a tenth compared to what exhaust? What do you run? What engine and tranny combo do you have. If that is compared to stock exhaust I would say you need to tune it if it is carbed. Maybe the exhaust is just to big for your motor. Dual 2.5 is about equal to 3.5" which is what I have. A cross pipe such as an h or x might help out with loss of torque if that is what has caused you to slow down. Also, do you have any pics of the ground clearance. That is basically how mine is run except I have the hooker long tubes and used s pipes to move it into the driveshaft tunnel since the hookers seem to sit a little wider than the hedmads. I used bullets also. My ground clearance is really pretty good and I dont really scrape on anything. I was kind of wondering how yours does since you have the larger pipe and normal sized mufflers.
Ben
__________________ 86 GN - GT67, B&M Trans Cooler, Built Trans w/ many upgraded parts, 3200 Vigilate Stall, CAI, RJC Power Plate, 3.5" THDP, DMH electric cutout, home built 3" mandrel bent exhaust w/ spintech muffler, Translator Plus, 3.5" MAF, q-boost controller, Walbro GSS340M, hotwire kit, 60#injectors, and 275 60 15 ET Street Radials out back.
On the way- Powerstroke(mounted, but needs plumbing ran), and Alky. (hopefully ported heads before too long)
13.035 @ 102.28 on stock turbo and ic on pump gas w/ 1.77 60 ft.
I had my car tuned for open headers,i just put them on to see what it would run. i could of played with the timing a little,but i didnt. it runs 7.30s at about 95mph in the 1/8, best 60' was 1.61. i have 2" drop spindles and the colecters just barly skrapes on big dips, but large speed bumps would be a diferent story. my motor is a 355 withe brownsfield raised runner aluminum beads solid roller cam roller rockers 12.1 forged pistons brodix intake berry grant 750 holley. fairbanks turbo 350 3500 stall 9" curry with 4.86 gears.
OK, thats cool. Sounds like it worked out pretty good then. I didnt know what exhaust you were running to start with(open headers). What kind of mufflers are those?
I was running open headers. the mufflers,I designed and built them at work. i have made a couple different designs.i have some strait through ones i made that im going to polish up and use instead of the ones you see in the picture.
Swain coated long tubes into 3" head pipes and then into a single 3.5" intermediate pipe running into a Dynomax welded ultraflow muffler. Still undecided in the tailpipe, hidden or slash cut.
Stock L98 short block with vette heads and hot cam, 1.6 proform RRs, stealth ram intake and stock TB.
Hooker 2055's with the air tubes cut off and the flange modified, and jet hot coated, mac offroad pipe, flowtech 3 inch cutout welded into the offroad pipe also jet hot coated, and flowmaster 3 inch dual exit catback.
Stock manifolds, stock cat, Edelbrock 3" catback. Pretty quiet - the way I like it. By next spring, I will have hooker lt's and y-pipe without the cat.
Stock manifolds, stock cat, Edelbrock 3" catback. Pretty quiet - the way I like it. By next spring, I will have hooker lt's and y-pipe without the cat.
Have revised exhaust on 1987 Firebird since 9/9/03 post. Still have Headman shorty headers (pn 68470) and Headman Y-pipe (pn 17470),now with 3.5" tail pipe. The rest of the exhaust system is 3.5" Mufflex with Flowmaster muffler. A little louder but not bad. More horsepower, but not quite as good fitment.
Shortie Headers with dual 2 1/2 inch pipes run into a Mufflex 4 inch system out the back with 1 single tailpipe.
I've got more ground clearence than the car had stock. Sound file in the sig.
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406..1.6 Roller Rockers...Victor Jr. Intake ..Holley 750 Double Pumper...S.F.I. Balancer and Flywheel...Ceramic coated Headers...Spohn Sub-Frame Connectors...Spohn Rear Control Arms...Jegs torque arm... Bradco custom race Converter...373 Posi...350 Turbo Transmission with Gear Venders over and under over drive unit...4inch Mufflex exhaust with SpinTech Muffler...18inch Chrome Iroc Wheels