TraviZ

19doug90, did you put the jackstands ON the 2x4 or the other way around?
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I tried putting my headers in from the top just fooling around but no luck doing it that way lol.

Brisk

I would have thought putting them in from the top would have been easier without heads installed.. go figure. I too will be trying to install these headers in the spring, so its good to know it can be done at home with jackstands.

I'd think the 2x4's were on the ground, then the jackstands on top.. makes the most sense to me.

Good luck TraviZ and let us know how it went.

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Orr89RocZ

I may end up getting these hooker headers as well. I however will install them as i install the new motor so getting them in shouldnt be a problem. I may try to install the shortblock first and then slip the headers into place then add the heads if its possible

TraviZ

Not possible Orr89RocZ, I tried without the heads, it gets all caught up with the block, just not the correct angles allowed.

Orr89RocZ

good to hear, i guess i'll set them in first and then put the motor in. Else i'll have to jack up the car to high heights and go from underneath. i really dont like that idea with the car up so high, i dont have super tall jackstands and i just dont like having the car off the ground as it is paranoia i guess

TraviZ

I agree it sucks, I am going for it though! prolly next week.
I am gonna go ahead and bolt the heads and intake on tomorrow.

19doug90

knowing you, you definitly want them

http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x...nheaders-1.flv

i apologize for the lack of a shirt lol, it was freakin hot out
and dont mind the dent in the door

that right there is the joy of 10 minutes after open 2210's were installed, drove like that 30 min through toronto to get to the exhaust shop, soo much fun.

getting them into the engine bay really isnt that bad with the motor fully assembled. i have no air but a/c still in the car, passenger side goes in pretty easy. I found best way was to..

remove starter
put header in place with slip tube out but dont secure anything.
get someone to hold the header up there while you bolt the starter back up (them suckers are heavy on your back, even a ministarter)
now slide the slip tube back in from the top (no air) and then bolt the header on

drivers side i struggled more then most with.
had the motor jacked up as high as it would go, with the dist cap removed and all
dont know why i had such a hard time, couldnt find the right angle to get them in, finally figured out to bring the flange up beside my slave cylinder on the scattershield, and it kinda slid up and into place.

for the drivers side if it doesnt go in easily with the motor down (some people have no problem) its really no effort to pull the one bolt out and jack the motor up. Just be careful how you jack it up, lol im a dooface and minorly caved in my pan, oh well was an excuse to buy something better

19doug90

I'm sorry to have to say it, but thats kinda scary if it ever crossed your mind to pile wood on the top of your jack stands supporting the car to get it higher. Dont be like the other guy on this board that almost had a car fall on him on grass.

Crib it from the bottom, the jack is whats meant to support the car.
your cribbing should just be two boards in the same direction, then opposite for each row. Obviously wider at the bottom then the width of the jack at the top. Make it too wide on the bottom and you cant get in with a creeper so just think about what youre doing.

you should probably do this even on a perfectly flat garage, you could do this on the side of a mountain and it would be safe to crawl under the car, if you do it properly.

why do i feel this incredible need to throw a disclaimer on the end of this saying if you die trying to do this its not my fault!!
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lol wow at the multipost, postwhoring by me

the paranoia is always there, lol it should be because you can die.

way i deal with it is once its up on stands i give it a solid little push on the fender from either side. Figure thats more force then i can put in with a wrench so if its gonna fall down, then is the time to find out.

hasnt happened yet

Orr89RocZ

think i'm gonna lay the headers in place in teh engine bay, while i drop the motor in. That should be the easiest thing to do

i jsut dont know what to do about the exhaust. i need a y pipe made and dont wanna drive 45 min thru Pittsburgh with open headers. It would be awesome thru the tunnels, but cops for sure will snag me. 11:1 383 with a big cam isnt too quiet

i'll probly have them trailer it in

19doug90

thats too bad, woulda been a lot of fun. Personally i said f- the ticket, can always try and beg and plead that youre on your way to the shop, and if they ticketed me, so be it

Orr89RocZ

lol i cant afford a ticket and plus i still have the back half of the exhaust on the car that i'd have to either take out or tie up somehow while i drive it to the shop. we will see tho when the time comes

19doug90

i got lucky but i wouldnt hesitate to do it again.

lol yup ended up buying a sawzall just for that purpose. cut it right before the over axel piece, 2 nice clean pieces to bring to them

Orr89RocZ

thats always an option. I may beable to drop the rear down alot and slip it out. Probly not tho. I cant wait to get this project going. collecting pieces and pricing out things as of now.

Isphius

what give the car that "growl" sound with the dynomax muffler? when you rev it high in the video? I was thinking it could be the aluminum heads, the particular exhaust, the long tubes or that its fuel injection vs me used to hearing carbs...or a combo of all 4? But it doesnt sound like most small blocks that sound like they just have the mufflers hacked off even when they do have nice exhausts. Any theories anyone?

cronsformula350

Were you talking to me, cause I have one bullet muffler on my car, I still have to put the other one on, but it has that deep sound, but I'm using cast iron heads along with the longtubes. The long tubes definitelly add a slightly deeper tone to the exhaust note. But let me know if it was me you were really talking about.

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Isphius

I was referring to the OP but is there a video of yours somewhere? PM it to me

cronsformula350

Well my video is on my myspace, it's on the main page. Notice in my signature

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My car site my formula's coming together again, check it out:
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TraviZ

ANyone ever put this headers on with a spohn k member?

TraviZ

I have my headers slipped in!
jacked the car up like 19" or so, had 3 wheels off the ground lol. put it on jackstands at their highest point, and the headers slipped right in from the bottom, could'nt have taken more then 30 minutes. I think the Spohn k member contributed to the fact it was so easy too..

cronsformula350

Sweet, if you ever take some pictures of it, you should put them up, so we can see it. I would get one of those one day, but not for my car, they only made 25 of them with these options it has, but my next f-body, I would do that, they look sweet and save some weight.

406cid

I have the mufflex 3 inch y pipe on my 85. coming off of hooker long tubes. The y pipe merges in to mufflex 4 inch all the way out with a flowmaster. i opted to tack weld the y pipe after i had it in place and then removed it and welded it further. It looks cleaner than clamps

Orr89RocZ

good deal i would love to see pics of that setup. I want a K member so bad but will hold off on that for now, even tho this is the time to swap it out since i'm doing a motor anyway

camaro590

what ports is on a 86 camaro 305?

cronsformula350

they should be square ports still. IF your gonna use a TPI intake still or a carb intake or if its for a street car, 1 5/8" primary tubes are better, they boost the torque which is best for a street car, because that's are area under the curve of the power band

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89 formula 350, will be pushing 430 + on motor, World 200cc Sportsman II heads, I am putting it back to prove the stock stuff, like I did with my IROC-Z. Then Ported HSR, 3500 stall, tuning, .555/.576 lift 241*/247nasty ground 112 LSA+4* rollercam on the shelf for now, then $1500, NHRA safety mods and a 10 point cage later, she'll go into the 10's

I'm on my space:
www.myspace.com/cronsformula

My car site my formula's coming together again, check it out:
www.cardomain.com/ride/471099

camaro590

mine is already carbed from the last guy that owned it and is the engines from 8