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04-16-2005, 12:01 AM
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#101 | | Member
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Car: 89 Firebird Engine: L05 350 TBI Transmission: 700r4-slippin' on it's last leg | I just found out that Random Technology makes 3.5 and 4" cats, so maybe this pipe dream will become reality...Now i just wonder how much this converter will set me back...  |
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04-16-2005, 09:43 AM
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#102 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: MA.
Posts: 757
Car: 1991 Camaro RS Engine: has 8 cylinders Transmission: has 6 speeds | Quote: Originally posted by jconrad I just found out that Random Technology makes 3.5 and 4" cats, so maybe this pipe dream will become reality...Now i just wonder how much this converter will set me back... |
Well, it's good that you found someone who makes
them. I have the 3" Random Tech. cat on my Camaro.
It's $250.00! So, I bet the 4" is about $300.00! Maybe
more. |
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04-17-2005, 03:21 AM
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#103 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,414
| Quote: Originally posted by Camaro_nut Well, it's good that you found someone who makes
them. I have the 3" Random Tech. cat on my Camaro.
It's $250.00! So, I bet the 4" is about $300.00! Maybe
more. | Wow 4" cats.. This could bring out a few questions
Im already thinking of a sweet exhaust system now.. But not a 4" catback system.. But the 4" cat could work..
Regards to the emissions comment.. What are you exactly relating this to? the diameter of the Catback or the cat itself not being designed for our cars? Remember have facts before you can qoute that Just for get.. |
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04-17-2005, 12:15 PM
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#104 | | Member
Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Delta, PA
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Car: 89 Firebird Engine: L05 350 TBI Transmission: 700r4-slippin' on it's last leg | Re: Re: 2055 vs 2460... Quote: Originally posted by Camaro_nut If you don't see them sold on Summit or Jeg's,
try Ebay. If not there, forget it and have a pipe made
instead. Just forget about passing emissions. Good
luck on finding the cat. | I think camaro_nut was talking about if I could not find the larger cat, that I may have had to run w/o one.
I am thinking about having a custom 3" y-pipe made up, that goes into either 3.5 or 4" to the cat, and then runs to my 3.5" catback. Do you think a 4" y-pipe and cat would be too much, or should I just try to stay with 3.5"? |
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04-17-2005, 06:11 PM
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#105 | | Moderator
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Car: 1991 Camaro Z28 Engine: 350 L98 siamesed runners Transmission: LT1 T56 Axle/Gears: 9-Bolt 4.10 | Four cylinders flowing into twin 3" pipes? Why do you need that much y-pipe for a 350 engine? Your 1 5/8" header pipes will restrict the exhaust more than a 3" y-pipe will. What is it you're building here?
My headers are 1 3/4" SLP's flowing into custom 2.5" y-pipes into Magnaflow 2.5" cats, then into a custom 3.5" I-pipe, a 3.5" race muffler, then narrowing down to 3" into a Magaflow f-body muffler with 2.5" outlets. In my opinion, the only reason to go larger than that is if you have a larger engine, or you're running a high boost turbo or blower. But what do I know?
Lastly, you should have asked this question in a separate topic. This topic is for updating the FAQ pages and providing more info about what I said in the first post, not for asking questions. Thank you. |
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04-22-2005, 07:27 PM
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#106 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: duluth georgia
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Car: a hi performance dodge dakota Engine: a 3.9 6 cylinder from the fiery pits of heck Transmission: ax-15 five speed | i am a golden exhaust *** LOOK HERE FOLKS FOR THE BEST RESULTS IN ANY VEHICLE YOU ASK YOUR SELF WHAT AM I BUILDING!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU BUILDING FOR STREET DRAG CIRCLE TRACK OR WHAT SO WHICH IS THE BEST. MOST HEADER COMPANIES OFFER COMPERABLE HEADERS TO APPLICATION NOT ALL ARE ALWAYS BUILT FOR BALLS TO THE WALL PERFORMANCE BUT WHAT SUITS THE APPLICATION NEEDS ARE RESEARCH YOUR APPLICATION BEFORE YOU WASTE YOUR MONEY FURTHER MORE NO CAT OUT PERFORMS OR SOUNDS BETTER THAN STRAIGHT PIPES
RESEARCH YOUR CRAP DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLES OPINIONS YOULL ONLY LOOK GAY |
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04-22-2005, 08:03 PM
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#107 | | Supporter/Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Car: '90 RS Engine: LO3 Transmission: T5 | Re: i am a golden exhaust *** Quote: Originally posted by jesusofthefbody LOOK HERE FOLKS FOR THE BEST RESULTS IN ANY VEHICLE YOU ASK YOUR SELF WHAT AM I BUILDING!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU BUILDING FOR STREET DRAG CIRCLE TRACK OR WHAT SO WHICH IS THE BEST. MOST HEADER COMPANIES OFFER COMPERABLE HEADERS TO APPLICATION NOT ALL ARE ALWAYS BUILT FOR BALLS TO THE WALL PERFORMANCE BUT WHAT SUITS THE APPLICATION NEEDS ARE RESEARCH YOUR APPLICATION BEFORE YOU WASTE YOUR MONEY FURTHER MORE NO CAT OUT PERFORMS OR SOUNDS BETTER THAN STRAIGHT PIPES
RESEARCH YOUR CRAP DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLES OPINIONS YOULL ONLY LOOK GAY | You are very wrong and miss-guided. Maybe you should practice what you preach and do a little reasearch on exhaust systems and how they work.  |
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04-22-2005, 08:56 PM
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#108 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: duluth georgia
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Car: a hi performance dodge dakota Engine: a 3.9 6 cylinder from the fiery pits of heck Transmission: ax-15 five speed | ACTUALLY SHIFTY I KNOW MY ENGINES AND FURTHER MORE I KNOW MY EXHAUST ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE SCAVAGING PRINCIPLE IF YOU WANT TO GET SCHOOLED GIVE ME EXAMPLES WHICH INCLUDE CIRCLE TRACK AND DRAG TELL ME WHY DO CIRCLE TRACK USE A LONGER COLLECTOR AND NARROWER HEADERS THAN ON DRAG CARS WHY DO DRAG CARS RUN STRAIGHTS AND FURTHER MORE YOU SUCK |
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04-22-2005, 09:13 PM
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#109 | | Supporter/Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Car: '90 RS Engine: LO3 Transmission: T5 | Re: ACTUALLY Quote: Originally posted by jesusofthefbody SHIFTY I KNOW MY ENGINES AND FURTHER MORE I KNOW MY EXHAUST ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE SCAVAGING PRINCIPLE IF YOU WANT TO GET SCHOOLED GIVE ME EXAMPLES WHICH INCLUDE CIRCLE TRACK AND DRAG TELL ME WHY DO CIRCLE TRACK USE A LONGER COLLECTOR AND NARROWER HEADERS THAN ON DRAG CARS WHY DO DRAG CARS RUN STRAIGHTS AND FURTHER MORE YOU SUCK | Please don't school me, as I am not prepared for the embarrassment.  Please get rid of the caps and refrain from spouting off meaningless jargon without further explanation. What are you trying to teach us? |
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04-25-2005, 01:30 AM
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#110 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: sunnyvale, CA
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Car: Black 89 RS Engine: 383 ci, TBI injected, AFR heads Transmission: TH700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.73's | I bought the edelbrock kit for my 89 RS but I ordered the ones for the TPI cuz I wanted the 3"Y-pipe. I will fab up a hot air tube for the air cleaner. As for the rest of the exhaust I'm gonna use a 3" cat and a 3"system but undecided which muffler I'm gonna use. I'm NOT a fan of Flowmaster so either a dynomax muffler or a spintech. I may try Edelbrock's new SDT muffler.
Anybody use the edelbrock headers? |
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04-26-2005, 12:20 PM
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#111 | | Member
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND , NY
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Car: 86 T/A Engine: 2000 TPI 5.7L vortec L31 Transmission: 700R4 | Quote: Originally posted by mikey R I bought the edelbrock kit for my 89 RS but I ordered the ones for the TPI cuz I wanted the 3"Y-pipe. I will fab up a hot air tube for the air cleaner. As for the rest of the exhaust I'm gonna use a 3" cat and a 3"system but undecided which muffler I'm gonna use. I'm NOT a fan of Flowmaster so either a dynomax muffler or a spintech. I may try Edelbrock's new SDT muffler.
Anybody use the edelbrock headers? | Ive got the tubular exhaust nickel plated edelbrock exhaust. Im curious to what you mean by ordering the ones for tpi? I know theres the system for dual cats or single cat, but i thought all tubular exhaust sytems were all the same. Are you running the tubular exhaust system or no? |
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04-26-2005, 12:22 PM
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#112 | | Member
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Car: 86 T/A Engine: 2000 TPI 5.7L vortec L31 Transmission: 700R4 | Quote: Originally posted by vortec77 Ive got the tubular exhaust nickel plated edelbrock exhaust. Im curious to what you mean by ordering the ones for tpi? I know theres the system for dual cats or single cat, but i thought all tubular exhaust sytems were all the same. Are you running the tubular exhaust system or no? | Oh also theres the difference between one or two 02 sensors. |
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04-27-2005, 12:01 AM
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#113 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: sunnyvale, CA
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Car: Black 89 RS Engine: 383 ci, TBI injected, AFR heads Transmission: TH700R4 Axle/Gears: 3.73's | Quote: Originally posted by vortec77 Ive got the tubular exhaust nickel plated edelbrock exhaust. Im curious to what you mean by ordering the ones for tpi? I know theres the system for dual cats or single cat, but i thought all tubular exhaust sytems were all the same. Are you running the tubular exhaust system or no? | the TBI system uses a smaller y pipe than the TPI system. Also the TBI system has a provision for the thermal air cleaner heat tube, the TPI system does not. I wanted the bigger y pipe so I ordered the TPI system. |
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04-27-2005, 11:35 AM
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#114 | | Member
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Car: 86 T/A Engine: 2000 TPI 5.7L vortec L31 Transmission: 700R4 | Quote: Originally posted by mikey R the TBI system uses a smaller y pipe than the TPI system. Also the TBI system has a provision for the thermal air cleaner heat tube, the TPI system does not. I wanted the bigger y pipe so I ordered the TPI system. | is it the tubular exhaust? |
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04-27-2005, 07:19 PM
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#115 | | Supporter/Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Car: '90 RS Engine: LO3 Transmission: T5 | Quote: Originally posted by vortec77 is it the tubular exhaust? | Yes. You want to order the TPI setup so that you do not get the stock sized 2.25" y-pipe. Everything else is the same on them. ALso, all 3rd gens used a single 02 senor mounted in the driver side header/manifold. |
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06-28-2005, 06:50 PM
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#116 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: offutt`air force base, ne
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Car: 91 camaro rs Engine: 5.7l 350 Transmission: th-700-r4 Axle/Gears: strange 3.73's | i have a 91 305 tbi. i put edelbrock tes headers on it. came with AIR pump hookups and stove top. very nice improvment on sound and performance. |
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09-17-2005, 07:13 AM
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#117 | | Member
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Car: Trans Am GTA Engine: 5.7L TPI Transmission: TH-350 Axle/Gears: 3:23 | what about mufflex spintech system? |
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09-17-2005, 11:52 AM
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#118 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: MA.
Posts: 757
Car: 1991 Camaro RS Engine: has 8 cylinders Transmission: has 6 speeds | Quote: Originally posted by Pearl91GTA what about mufflex spintech system? |
I have it and love it. It sounds nothing like Flowmaster
and I have gotten plenty of compliments on the sound of it.
The drawbacks are the price, especially for the dual
outlet system. I don't have a good sound clip yet, but
I am working on it. |
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09-17-2005, 02:56 PM
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#119 | | Member
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Car: Trans Am GTA Engine: 5.7L TPI Transmission: TH-350 Axle/Gears: 3:23 | I purchased the 3.5" spintech system for my ta and love it but the price was kinda high |
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09-17-2005, 10:07 PM
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#120 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Jersey
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Car: Camaro z28 1986 Engine: 350 Transmission: 700r4 Axle/Gears: 3.42's | I dont know if this was said or not but the air pipes are only there and along with the pump is to pump air down into the cat to make the car warm up faster and get a little better of performance. |
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09-28-2005, 12:16 AM
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#121 | | Moderator
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Car: 1991 Camaro Z28 Engine: 350 L98 siamesed runners Transmission: LT1 T56 Axle/Gears: 9-Bolt 4.10 | Quote: Originally posted by Pearl91GTA what about mufflex spintech system? | Once again, this thread is for posting answers to frequently asked questions about headers and exhaust systems, not for asking more questions. If you have a question that isnt answered by doing a search, then please start a new thread and ask your question. |
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11-25-2005, 05:46 PM
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#122 | | Senior Member
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| too much anger in these post guys.were all on the same page lets get together and no tbicker |
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05-04-2006, 01:31 PM
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#123 | | Member
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Fayetteville, AR
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS Engine: Modified 350 TPI Transmission: Modified 700 R4 Axle/Gears: Stock 2.73's | So if I order headers through summit for a 82-92 5.7L Camaro, will I have to weld in a o2 sensor? Or do most designs for our cars alreadly have one welded in? Looking for a header for a mid 300 HP (TPI) 90-92 Camaro. Any suggestions?
I have set of Mr. Gasket headers but they have a 2.5 inch collector(inside diameter), but I'm afraid thats too small. ??????? |
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06-27-2006, 08:38 PM
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#124 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
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| what do you all think of the cones that slide in the top of the header?
S. Tyler |
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07-04-2006, 03:11 PM
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#125 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: toronto canada
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Car: 1985 trans am ws6 Engine: 355 Transmission: 700r4 Axle/Gears: 370 stange us gear | what do you guys think of the hedman long tube street hedders pn/68460 ? |
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07-04-2006, 03:33 PM
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#126 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Leandro(Oakland)
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Car: '92 Toyota Pickup Engine: 22R-E Transmission: 5sp Manual Axle/Gears: 4:?? | Quote: |
Originally Posted by ozed28 what do you guys think of the hedman long tube street hedders pn/68460 ? | Hedman Longtubes are pretty good for the price, but I'd get the elites(model line that's just ceramic coated) as they aren't that expensive either.
If getting longtubes and you have emmissions regulations in your state(especially if they do a visual check) then you will not pass. You also have to custom fab a y-pipe for longtubes. Depending on what enging/setup you have I'd just go for hooker shorties pn. HOK-2055. Unless you are running a fairly modded 305, or a mild 350, I doubt that you would like the results that longtubes would give you. |
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07-05-2006, 01:31 AM
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#127 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: toronto canada
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Car: 1985 trans am ws6 Engine: 355 Transmission: 700r4 Axle/Gears: 370 stange us gear | thanks the app would be built 355 or 383 stroker with true duels not worried about emisions  cheers all |
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12-02-2006, 11:14 PM
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#129 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Canada
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Car: 87 Camaro IROC Engine: 305 TPI Transmission: 700r4 Axle/Gears: 3.23 | so i read through this thread and have a question and 2 comments,
Q: what is an I-pipe?, is it just a single pipe exhaust?
comments: first off, anybody who has thier cat on because they dont think that 5hp will increase thier performance is not enough | | | |