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10-09-2003, 12:51 PM
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#1 | | TGO Supporter/Moderator
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Car: '87 Corvette Engine: 350, .040 Over, supercharger Transmission: ZF6, 16lbs flywheel, DF Clutch Axle/Gears: Dana36 IRS, 3.54 gears | Thirdgen Header option chart - explained I made up a chart of <B>SHORTY</B> headers for Thirdgen's. These should help people and save on a little research time when trying to figure out the "best" headers. There is no opinions in numbers, so when someone tells you that there "such a so" header is better than another header you can compare them for real. I've tripple verrified the info in this chart.
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Header Gauge Flange PRI OD PRI ID COL OD Col ID Pipe OD Pipe ID CAT OD CAT ID
Hooker 2055* 18 0.31 1.63 1.53 3.00 2.20 2.50 2.40 3.00 2.90
Hooker 2460 16 0.31 1.63 1.51 3.00 2.80 n/a n/a n/a n/a
Hedman 68470* 18 0.25 1.63 1.53 3.00 2.80 2.25 2.15 2.50 2.40
Flowtech 16102FLT* 18 0.25 1.50 1.40 2.50 2.30 2.25 2.15 2.50 2.40
SLP 3004* 17 0.38 1.63 1.52 3.00 2.20 2.25 2.15 3.00 2.89
SLP 30005* 17 0.38 1.75 1.64 3.00 2.20 2.25 2.15 3.00 2.89
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(And now for the opinions)
<B>Hooker 2055.</B> Prolly one of the best headers available. 50-state legal. The best part of this header is the y-pipe. 2.5 " mandrel bent, into a 3" pipe. Primaries are large 1 5/8 18g. Problems: collector gets down really small. It could be modified to flow more however. Avg price: </B>$365.00 for the set</B>
<B>Hooker 2460.</B> Initially appears to be a good header. It's more
durable than a 2055 header (and heavier), however the thicker gauge primary (16g) is more restrictive. The collector is larger than the 2055, but by the time the exhaust gases reach the collector they have prolly slowed down anyway. No Y-pipe is available for the 2460, but you can fabricate one out of some mandrel bends - budget about 150.00 and a long weekend. Avg price: <B>$150.00 for the headers. </B>
<B>Hedman 68470.</B> Decent headers. Not as durable as hooker, but very lightweight! I got mine ceramic coated by ACS.
Heres the deal. The <B>OLD</B> style Has large 3" collectors with 3 bolt flange, large 1 5/8 18g primaries, and a y-pipe is available.
The new style uses a ball and socket flange like a Hooker 2055.
The y-pipe is a 2.25" pipe that y's off into a 2.5". However, you can cut this at the y and use 2 mandrel bent 3" peices. The collector design on the pipe (for the y) expands out to about 3.25" which allows you to easily weld the 3" section in. <B>Y-PIPE WONT FIT WITH MINISTARTER!!</B> Also, you'll need to weld an o2 bung on the header collector. Avg price: <B>$135.00, Ypipe #17470: $95.00. ($215 set) </B>
<B>Flowtech 16102.</B> I personally used these headers, and they are
junk! The flanges are machined VERY poorly, the collectors are 2.5", tubes are 1.50" OD, and the y-pipe is designed like the stock, so you can't just cut off the 2.50" section and replace it with 3" mandrel bends. The headers are VERY heavy, and so is the y-pipe, but this doesnt appear to help any with heat retention. Avg price: <B>$200.00 for the set.</B>
<B>SLP.</B> SLP makes the largest tube header you can buy in a shorty for a Thirdgen. The OEM style collectors are better than the the Hooker 2055's, and are 2.5" The headers are made out of 17 gauge stainless steel, so the 1 5/8 version actually has SMALLER tubes (ID) than Hooker 2055, hedman 68470 headers. The Y-Pipe won't connect directly to your cat, you will need a 45* angle. The y-pipe
is actually a nice design, and is 2.25" tubes into a y-collector. The tubes actually bend 90* back, so the y-collector faces the back of the car. This is a unique design.
I just switched from hedman to SLP 1 3/4, So I've now tried 3 of the most popular headers for thirdgens.
Slp no longer sells non ceramic coated versions. So the 1 5/8 headers are $649, and the 1 3/4 are $699. Add the 45* adaper at $35. Avg price: <B>$684 to $734 for the set.</B>
Updated 11/7/2005.
Last edited by anesthes : 11-07-2005 at 08:12 PM.
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10-09-2003, 02:25 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: MA
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Car: 1981 Chevy Malibu, 1987 Formula 350 Engine: 229 V6, L98 TPI 350 Transmission: TH350, 700R4 Axle/Gears: 10 bolt ???, 9 bolt 3.27 posi | eexxcceelllleenntt.....very good job man.....maybe a little more info and i'd say sticky? |
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10-09-2003, 06:23 PM
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#3 | | Moderator
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Car: 82 Berlinetta(2)/57 Bel Air Engine: 86 LG4-> ZZ3(LS1)/mild 396 Transmission: TH700(T56)/TH400 Axle/Gears: 3.23(4.10)/3.73 | Edelbrock TES and Dynomax aren't on the list. Some may say that's appropriate, but...
Those who make dual-cat versions are TES, Hedman, & SLP.
Hooker 2460 do not come with A.I.R. pipes, but they can be specified for them with a "0" (zero) prefix.
Hedman emmissions-legal setups are 68481 (single 3" cat) and 68491 (dual cats). Include A.I.R. & O2 fittings, y-pipe. About the same price as TES/Hooker 2055 (dual-cat version is less, for some reason).
URLs:
Edelbrock: www.edelbrock.com
Hooker: www.holley.com
Hedman: www.hedman.com
SLP: www.slponline.com |
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10-09-2003, 06:41 PM
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Car: 91 Camaro Vert Engine: 02 LS1, HX40 Transmission: 2002 LS1 M6 | you left out longtube options. |
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10-09-2003, 06:46 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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Car: 1986 Iroc Engine: 454 Demon 850DP Transmission: TH350, 3500 stall Axle/Gears: 3.73 | Yes where are the Hooker 2210's and the Hedman long tubes? |
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10-09-2003, 07:38 PM
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#6 | | Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Littleton, CO USA
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Car: 82 Berlinetta(2)/57 Bel Air Engine: 86 LG4-> ZZ3(LS1)/mild 396 Transmission: TH700(T56)/TH400 Axle/Gears: 3.23(4.10)/3.73 | in the stickies above... |
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10-09-2003, 10:03 PM
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| Very good thread and I applaud you for going the extra effort to really research the different headers. Your finding are basically what I have found to be true as well and have included in one of the stickies too. The 2055's are awesome! lol |
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10-09-2003, 10:19 PM
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#8 | | TGO Supporter
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| nice work on the chart. |
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10-10-2003, 12:40 AM
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Car: 89 GTA Engine: L98 | Very nice. And appreciated.
One thing I dislike about it, is it makes me want to be able to get headers even more now. lol |
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10-10-2003, 08:38 AM
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Car: '87 Corvette Engine: 350, .040 Over, supercharger Transmission: ZF6, 16lbs flywheel, DF Clutch Axle/Gears: Dana36 IRS, 3.54 gears | Table I found on the net.. <table border="10" width="75%">
<tr>
<td width="5%">Year</td>
<td width="5%">Engine</td>
<td width="5%">Brand</td>
<td width="5%">Part Number</td>
<td width="5%">Tube Size</td>
<td width="5%">Collector Size</td>
<td width="5%">Finish</td>
<td width="5%">PS</td>
<td width="5%">PB</td>
<td width="5%">AC</td>
<td width="6%">Trans</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">
<p>305 TBI shorty</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Dynomax</td>
<td width="9%">88705</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">
<p>305 TBI shorty</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Dynomax</td>
<td width="9%">87705</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">C</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305-350 shorty</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Dynomax</td>
<td width="9%">85098</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305-350 shorty</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Dynomax</td>
<td width="9%">86098</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">C</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305 shorty</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Dynomax</td>
<td width="9%">85012</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305 shorty</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Dynomax</td>
<td width="9%">86012</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
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<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305 shorty w/A.I.R.</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Dynomax</td>
<td width="9%">85512</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
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<td width="9%">1982-87</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305 LG4 w/Y pipe </p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Edelbrock</td>
<td width="9%">6871</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
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<td width="9%">1983-86</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305 L69 w/Y pipe </p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Edelbrock</td>
<td width="9%">6874</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
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<td width="9%">1985</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305 TPI w/Y pipe </p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Edelbrock</td>
<td width="9%">6873</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
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<td width="9%">1986-90</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305-350 w/Y pipe </p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Edelbrock</td>
<td width="9%">6872</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
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<td width="9%">1988-92</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305 TBI w/Y pipe </p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Edelbrock</td>
<td width="9%">6875</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
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<td width="9%">1982-87</td>
<td width="9%"><p>305-350 dual cat w/Y pipe </p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Edelbrock</td>
<td width="9%">6876</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-91</td>
<td width="9%"><p>SB Chevy</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Flowtech</td>
<td width="9%">11102</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-91</td>
<td width="9%"><p>SB Chevy</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Flowtech</td>
<td width="9%">31102</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">C</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-90</td>
<td width="9%"><p>SB Chevy</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Flowtech Terminator</td>
<td width="9%">92460</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-90</td>
<td width="9%"><p>SB Chevy</p>
</td>
<td width="9%">Flowtech Terminator</td>
<td width="9%">92460 -1</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">C</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy 700r4/t350
</td>
<td width="9%">Hedman</td>
<td width="9%">68460</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy
</td>
<td width="9%">Hedman</td>
<td width="9%">68470</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy w/A.I.R.
</td>
<td width="9%">Hedman</td>
<td width="9%">68471</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy single cat w/Y pipe
</td>
<td width="9%">Hedman</td>
<td width="9%">68481</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy dual cat w/Y pipe
</td>
<td width="9%">Hedman</td>
<td width="9%">68491</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy
</td>
<td width="9%">Hedman Elite</td>
<td width="9%">68478</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy 700r4 t350
</td>
<td width="9%">Hedman Tork Step</td>
<td width="9%">684664</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2" 1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy Shorty
</td>
<td width="9%">Hedman Tork Step</td>
<td width="9%">684674</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2" 1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy
</td>
<td width="9%">Hooker</td>
<td width="9%">2210</td>
<td width="9%">1 3/4"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy
</td>
<td width="9%">Hooker</td>
<td width="9%">2238</td>
<td width="9%">1 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1983-85</td>
<td width="9%">305 4bbl
</td>
<td width="9%">Hooker</td>
<td width="9%">2052</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1986-90</td>
<td width="9%">SB Chevy w/Y pipe
</td>
<td width="9%">Hooker</td>
<td width="9%">2055</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">305-350 shorty
</td>
<td width="9%">Hooker</td>
<td width="9%">2460</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">2 1/2"</td>
<td width="9%">P</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1986-92</td>
<td width="9%">305-350 single cat w/Y pipe
</td>
<td width="9%">Mac</td>
<td width="9%">TF8690</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">HTS Silicon</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1988-92</td>
<td width="9%">305-350 dual cat w/Y pipe
</td>
<td width="9%">Mac</td>
<td width="9%">TF8992</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">HTS Silicon</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">350-455 single cat w/Y pipe
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<td width="9%">SLP</td>
<td width="9%">3000</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">Stainless</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A
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<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">350-455 single cat w/Y pipe
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<td width="9%">SLP</td>
<td width="9%">3001</td>
<td width="9%">1 3/4"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">Stainless</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A
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<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">350-455 dual cat w/Y pipe
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<td width="9%">SLP</td>
<td width="9%">3002</td>
<td width="9%">1 5/8"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">Stainless</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A
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</tr>
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<td width="9%">1982-92</td>
<td width="9%">350-455 dual cat w/Y pipe
</td>
<td width="9%">SLP</td>
<td width="9%">3003</td>
<td width="9%">1 3/4"</td>
<td width="9%">3"</td>
<td width="9%">Stainless</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="9%">Y</td>
<td width="10%">M/A
</td>
</tr>
</table>
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Car: '85 Z28 Engine: 305 Transmission: WC T5, 3.23 posi | Uh, you might want to edit that post, it takes up like 4 screens....
Other than that, good work! It's nice to see some info put together on the exuast board so users don't have to go looking everywhere. I think so far we have almost eveything covered, now all we need is a review of catback systems... Volunteers anyone?  |
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10-10-2003, 11:23 AM
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z28 Engine: Bolt on 5.7L / L98 Transmission: Modified 700R4 Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt G80 | Now im confused, SLP or hooker.  |
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10-10-2003, 01:10 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Engine: Was 305 LO3 TBI, now carbed 355 Transmission: Auto | so why won't the 2055's fit on 91-92?
are there any hookers for 91-92 that come w/y-pipe? |
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10-10-2003, 01:21 PM
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Car: '87 Corvette Engine: 350, .040 Over, supercharger Transmission: ZF6, 16lbs flywheel, DF Clutch Axle/Gears: Dana36 IRS, 3.54 gears | Quote: |
Now im confused, SLP or hooker.
| As i've explained in previous posts, its the ID of the primaries that really matter.. It doesn't exactly make sense to go with SLPS though because of cost..
The table in my last post was found on the 'net. I have not verrified the information.. What i'd like is, people to respond to this with measurements, etc of their setups and I'll edit the first table in the post. Then this should be made into a sticky..
If anyone would like to "review" there headers, I'd like to add that to the first post too. Quote:
so why won't the 2055's fit on 91-92?
are there any hookers for 91-92 that come w/y-pipe?
| They will if you have single cat.. Not dual..
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10-10-2003, 01:41 PM
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS Engine: Was 305 LO3 TBI, now carbed 355 Transmission: Auto | single....i'm looking at the hedman 68470's on summit....but it doesn't say they come with a y-pipe. part number? |
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10-10-2003, 02:23 PM
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#16 | | TGO Supporter/Moderator
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Car: '87 Corvette Engine: 350, .040 Over, supercharger Transmission: ZF6, 16lbs flywheel, DF Clutch Axle/Gears: Dana36 IRS, 3.54 gears | 17470 for the y-pipe.
Do yourself a favor and call american coating specialties,
281-446-6203 and get the set from them.. Coated 68470's is like $240.00, and the y-pipe 95.00 (which is cheaper than summit).
They will also weld the o2 bung on it, which is required (make sure you remind them).
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10-10-2003, 07:27 PM
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#17 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Houston Tx
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Car: 91 Camaro RS Engine: 305 Modded Transmission: 700R4 B&M blue clutches | MAC also has a powder coated short headers for a thirdgen you have to take out the smog pump pipes but overall these are the best headers ive found ... you can really feel the difference and time difference depends on what mods you got ...Just my opinion but I recomend them.. kinda high priced but good.. |
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10-10-2003, 07:36 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by IROCThe5.7L Now im confused, SLP or hooker. | Hooker. |
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10-10-2003, 08:26 PM
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z28 Engine: Bolt on 5.7L / L98 Transmission: Modified 700R4 Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt G80 | Quote: Originally posted by 25THRSS Hooker. |
Money is not a problem. I want the best power, which I see alot of people saying SLP.
I like the idea of no air tubes, just don't want to run into the basic slp header problems and have to dent the header.
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10-10-2003, 09:15 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by IROCThe5.7L Money is not a problem. I want the best power, which I see alot of people saying SLP.
I like the idea of no air tubes, just don't want to run into the basic slp header problems and have to dent the header. | Well if you are going by the chart, which I conclude to be true from my research as well, the hooker 2055 y pipe is a much, much better design and will support more power than the slp's will. The hooker's only come in 1 5/8 primaries, but they just happen to be the biggest ID 1 5/8 headers available. If you want to go bigger you will have to get the slp's, but it is kind of pointless seeing as how the y pipe is only 2 1/4 inch compared to the hooker 2 1/2. You will also most likely have to dent the header primary or modify your steering shaft, which is kind of scary to me. I have the 2055's and cut the air tubes off myself and it was pretty easy if I must say so. Besides the huge rip off with the slp's, the hookers are not only cheaper, but are a much better design overall.
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10-10-2003, 09:27 PM
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z28 Engine: Bolt on 5.7L / L98 Transmission: Modified 700R4 Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt G80 | Thanks for the input!
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