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Old 10-21-2003, 04:26 AM   #1
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exhaust too free-flowing?

i've read a few posts recently where people changed their exhausts, couldn't get their cars to run right and put more restrictive cats on their cars to correct.

i'm guessing the problem they're having is that the exhaust is evacuating so quickly that the o2 sensor isn't heating up to operating temps.

wouldn't a better fix be going to a heated 02 sensor? i remember reading an article about a ram jet 350 install in a street rod. the 02 sensor mounted much further back in the long-tube headers than stock and didn't work right. they corrected the problem with a heated sensor.

i've just sent my slp 1 3/4" shorties off to jet hot to be coated. i'm running them to dual random technology 2 1/2" cats into a 3" pipe to the muffler out to dual 2 1/2" outlets.

i still need to decide on which o2 sensor and which muffler to use. i'm tired of the "flowmaster sound" and am leaning towards a magnaflow.

looking for suggestions.
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Old 10-21-2003, 08:07 AM   #2
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seanof30306 - You are right on the money inregards to the heated O2. I automatically recommend using one any time headers are installed.

For your muffler choice, my recommendation is a Gale Banks system. In my opinion, it is the best sound available for the FBody.

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Old 10-23-2003, 04:44 PM   #3
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I have a very free flowing exhaust (1 5/8" headers, 3" collectors, 3" center in/out aerochambers and 3" pipe the whole way) and I've never had a problem with my o2 sensor, but who knows it could just be a FI thing...
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Old 10-24-2003, 08:21 PM   #4
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I have slp 1 3/4's, a 3 inch pipe for a cat and a 3 inch single in/out flow cat back on the 87 car. I've drove it nearly every day for a year and a half (about 15,000 miles) with the same regular O2 sensor and hav'nt had a problem yet. The last long trip I went on I clocked it at 25 mpg.
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Old 10-25-2003, 07:56 PM   #5
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whats the price on a heated O2 sensor?
I'm about due to replace my O2 sensor anyway...
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Old 10-26-2003, 02:34 PM   #6
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They're about $70-$80 from summit (MSD sensors).
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