anyone running these mufflers? just looking at these in a catalog and from their size, 4" by 9 3/4" with a 6" wide body, they would have to be pretty aggressive sounding. im thinking for my new exhaust set up, the hedman long tubes with the x-tensions back into two of these mufflers, the 3" ones, then over the axle and out the back, think it would be to loud?

I had a similar design on my previous Camaro ("Purple Hornies").

Loud? What?

Yeah, it was deafening when you hit the throttle. Almost as loud as open
headers.

I don't recommend them for the street; you'll have cops on your bumper
in seconds.

I had mine connected off the headers with a small
extension in between, and exiting the side of the car just before the
rear tire.

Nope. He's talking about the single chamber muffler from cherrybomb or IMCO. It looks just like a flowmaster, but is cheaper and better constructed.

OK, he's looking at these:

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...%3Den%26sa%3DN

Mine were similar to this style of Cherry Bomb:
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...%3Den%26sa%3DN

I still believe that Extreme muffler is going to be loud judging by the design.

Yeah you were thinking of the origional style cherry bomb, which was a glasspack. Most all glasspacks are real similar.

Since then, cherry bomb has merged with a few other exhaust companys I believe. Becasue I used to have the Pro series mufflers, but I bought them when they were only IMCO mufflers, and were still $29.99 each. For thirty bucks the quality on the IMCO's was better than flowmasters.

Now cherry bomb offers most of their mufflers under their own name too, and a few catbacks.

haha ok, so does anyone actually run one, or two, of these?

On an f-body, I doubt it. They make a catback, but none of their retailers will sell it. Their mufflers now are almost as expensive as flowmaster (at least the camaro / firebird one is). Like I said, when I bought mine, they were the 3-chamber Pro series, and they were $29.99 aluminized. Posished stainless was about $60 each. And an f-body was like $50/$100 i think.

So you might be the first to try.

So im wondering now, is it possible to run dual pipes over the axle? like in the same place the pipe is ran in all the cat backs, but on the opposite side? ill have the headman long tubes with x tensions and i might try to have my local exhaust shop run the dual 3in pipes over the axle, then put 2 of these mufflers on kind of where the stock muffler goes and just attempt to tuck them up in there, would this work?

I have seen dual pipes run over the axle - its complicated. What gets in the way, is that panhard support brace I think.

But, yes, its been done before. If you want to spend the $$ to do it, is another story.

well i have a exhaust guy who does stuff pretty cheap, and he told me hes done duals on a few of our cars, and he said in 3in, is gonna be about 300, maybe hes thinking of 2nd gen cars? thats what i thought but he said no hes done it on like 85 86 87 cars so he must know? idk well see i guess, pretty excited about how the whole setup would sound with those tiny mufflers

Well if your exhaust guy will run true duals, custom bent, for 300, hes a keeper. Around here, the custom exhaust shops want 400-500 for a stock location catback and muffler, they would want 800-1000 for true duals, all crush bent.

yea i talked to him today,300 but thats crush bent, so i dont think i want that, so now what im thinking is i already have hooker shorties with y pipe stock cat and a hooker cat back, so im thinking of getting the hedman long tubes with the x tensions and just buying some j bends from summit and myself a y pipe and getting rid of the cat, and just going straight into the 3in thats already there
or
my second option would be to make myself a y pipe, but put the muffler in question where the cat used to be, and use my pipe thats already there from there back and just get rid of the muffler back there and somehow build a y pipe and split it or just one 3in exit, but in my opinion, that would be kind of *****, so i think i would try to split it, what should i do?
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why did it bleep out r i c e y? *****?

you can buy something from hawks. they sell the brace that has a slight bend in it to allow 3" over the axle on both sides.

i bought a Cherry bomb turbo muffler for my camaro because it didnt have a muffler when i boight it. it was dirt cheap and i needed it to pass inspection. so thats why i got it. that muffler sounds terrible. it doesnt even have a nice tone to it or anything. its quiet. i thought it might be at least abit agressive.
that was my 1st cherry bomb muffler.

if your ever thinking about getting the turbo ones. dont get them. unless you want a quiet car :P

anyone ever use that piece from hawks? 225 is a little much if i can sneak 2 1/2 through with the original one that would be fine with me, anyone have this piece or do true duals over the axle with the original bar? any pictures?

Not true. AutoZone sells it. I ordered a Vortex cat back kit and substituted a Flowmaster 80 series muffler. Everything slid together and the only problem I had was tryin to fit the pipe up over the rear axle. I bent the hanger a bit and it fit. Topped off with band clamps, been on the car for 2 years now. Everything was stainless mandrel bent and is lifetime warrantied.

I didnt know they made a vortex cat-back. This isnt the one you got, is it?

http://www.cherrybomb.com/cars_new.a...yno_Only=False

Also, how much did it cost at autozone?? And is the flange that connects to the catalytic convertor 3" with the ball and socket type?? Thanks.

The 2006 catalog I have shows different part numbers, but it looks the same. Everything was 2 3/4" ID I think. The tailpipes were less than $20 a piece and the pipe from the cat to the muffler was less then $50. The flange was the ball and socket type and bolted to my stock cat no problems.I did my whole systems for around $215, which included the Flowmaster 80 series muffler and the clamps. The down side to this kit is you have to order the pieces separate. But, if one piece fails due to damage or rust, you can order just that piece, and everything was lifetime warrantied. I can double check at the store this weekend to see if the old part numbers are still good.

Here's the page from the 2006 catalog. My kit is the top pic, 83-85-"H" engine code.

Thanks for the picture. I dont think the part # is valid anymore, because I think Cherry Bomb bought out "Vortex" and added it to their priduct line. Now, it would be called the "cherry bomb" cat-back like I showed you, and would use a chambered muffler similar to the flowmaster.

I wish a 3" catback could still be had for that cheap. I mean one that you could put a flowmaster in, with no customization, cutting, or welding.

The day is coming soon ... Magnaflow's new systems should fall in line with the existing 4th gen LT1/4 offerings.

Here is a listing from a vendor listed at Magnaflow's website

15620 93-97 Camaro


$407.41$407.41
Free Shipping on orders over $50.00!

All items discounted 10.5%! Recalculate Order


Sub Total:$407.41Store Wide Discount:-$42.78Sub Total:$364.63

to your door.

yeah, thats real nice, but I would have to pull out the magnaflow muffler for something else louder.

if anyone finds a clip of this muffler on a 1st gen motor post it up, all i find on the net is dodge clips and crap like that. im looking for a fairly raw sound but not farm truck straight pipe sound. This muffler may be just right, who knows.

Here is the best clip of a magnaflow catback I could find. Basically stock motor, just headers, cat, and exhaust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LHQAwcJr_Q

im sorry, i was talking about the cherry bomb extreme