I GOT A SET OF 1 7/8 HEDMAN HEADERS LAST YEAR FROM JET-HOT COATINGS. THESE HEADERS ARE AWFUL!!!!!! THEY HIT THE OIL PAN ON THE RIGHT SIDE AT 2 SPOTS PUSHING THE FLANGE OUT OVER 1 1/2 INCHES. THEY CANNOT BE BOLTED ONTO THE MOTOR. I CALLED JET-HOT, AS THAT IS WHO I BOUGHT EM FROM, AND THEY SAID WELL THEY ARE OVER 90 DAYS OLD SO THEY HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO DO ANYTHING!!!!!! THAT IS JUST TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!!! SCREW THEM!!!!! JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS HAD THIS PROBLEM AND TO WARN EVERYONE HERE AS THE HEADERS WERE SUPPOSEDLY MADE FOR OUR CARS!!!

is that the only issue? because while i would expect a better fit for as much as they probably cost, that is fixable with some fab work. what oil pan are you running? that may have something to do with it.

Did they send you the wrong headers? Did YOU order the wrong headers?

i called jet-hot and said i needed 1 7/8 headers for my 89 camaro. they did ALL of the ordering and part numbers. we are gonna cut the tube and weld in a new section to how it should be. i have a moroso oil pan on the motor, but they hit a stock pan too!!!

Did they send you big block headers? Small headers? Did you specify small o big block?

Just wondering if they sent you the "correct" headers for the car, just not for the engine. Got a pic of them?

I agree with blue, What oil pan are you running? It sound like a problem with your combination of parts, not the headers

What p/n Hedmans are we talking about? I didn't think they made 1-7/8" headers for 3rd gens.

From what little I can see in this thread, you're bashing two good companies for something that is not their fault.

YES THEY SAID THEY WERE FOR A SMALL BLOCK, AND THE PART NUMBER MATCHED WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR MY CAR. LIKE I SAID THEY WOULD HAVE HIT A STOCK OIL PAN

So you have an aftermarket oil pan?

yes i have a moroso pan on the motor. but it would hit a stock one too. im just pissed at their customer service at jet-hot. sayin well they are over 90 days old so sell em and buy something else if they dont fit. be nice if i sold em on here knowin they dont fit right??? i couldnt sell em to someone knowing that. how is it not their fault???? i didnt weld up the headers!!!

1 7/8 headers are very large headers, they are going to be tough to fit in these cars but hitting the oil pan seems odd unless you have a wide kickout oil pan. I dont see how they would come close to the stock oil pan.

Check the part number again, and make sure they are exactly what is specified for these cars. They may have screwed up. 65160 hedman hustlers is what i'm coming up with.

i have ordered from jethot many times and always had a good experience. Coatings were nice and seemed to last, although my last set dulled rather quickly.

the pan does have a large kickout but it isnt hitting there is is lower on the pan. there are no part numbers on the headers so i cant tell if they sent the right ones. where they hit kicked out the flange 1 1/2 inches on the bottom.

Did they have a order reciept? That probably matches but without a part number on the header its hard to tell what was sent.
But if the majority of the header fits then sounds like they got a right part number, its just a shame its not fitting 100% now. Not sure why, any pics of whats goin on?

What heads are you running? What motor mounts? Something positioning the headers differently?

Post pics of the headers and where they hit the oil pan. If your running an oil pan with a kickout I would say the problem is with the combination of parts.

brm k member, dart pt even to the point pro 1 heads. they are hittin on the engine stand!!! not even to the point of trying to fit em in the damn car

You got Hedman #65170, only 1 7/8" they make for our car; there are a few footnotes of problems you might be experiencing: 32,65 and 69. None of which are Jet Hot or Hedmans fault.

32 - Designed for stock mounts in stock location and stock-width oil pan.
51 - Under-chassis exit.
65 - Must use remote oil filter.
66 - Racecar header, flat-style collector.
68 - Racecar header, slip-on collector. For adjustable, see accessory listing.
69 - Flange may need to be cut between ports to install. Do not cut between twin ports.
80 - Headers come with sub-flange.
105 - Fits new angle plug heads with raised exhaust ports.
151 - Must use TCI-type mini starter.

thanks joe, could be it! but none of those contribute to them hitting the oil pan. we are tying to mount them with the engine on the stand!!!

How does that not apply?

32 - Designed for stock mounts in stock location and stock-width oil pan.


Foot note says for use with stock width pan, You are using a pan with a kickout, it does not matter if the engine is in the car or on the stand, if the oilpan is to wide its gonna hit

that is the thing. it isnt hittin at the kickout, it is lower on the pan. as i have said, it hits a stock pan too. think they were just welded up wrong. i am in contact with hedman right now. not that i think they will take care of it, but who knows. the mounts are in the stock location.

stock port location on the heads?

yes they are

That would be quite a trick to get BBC exhaust on a SBC.

3 1/2" collector could be the issue too. your sump is 10 1/4" wide correct?

yeah that is another issue, getting a starter on the motor under those collectors. im thinkin im gonna just buy a set of super comps and be dont with it

well i got a chance to look at another third gen with the same headers, and mine is ABSOLUTELY!!!! made wrong. the inside pipe is 3 inches closer to the block than on his car which is causing the problem. now i have to try to get it fixed!!!!!

Take as many pictures as you can of the car with them on there, and then send them to hedman. They should be more willing to help when you can prove to them that they screwed up.

Honestly, you couldnt have picked worse headers to buy for clearance and functionality. Hopefully you get it worked out with Hedman if they were mfg wrong. headers are a tough decision for these year Camaros. There are better alternatives for 1 7/8 headers out there that aren't over priced.

well we have found out the problem. when they were welded, the collector tabs were put in the wrong spot. well when they bolted it all together it tweaked the inner tube and caused it to hit the pan. now ill call hedman and see if they stand by their product.