[RI] IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
06-08-2014, 07:35 PM
#1
IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
Complete & in good used condition; no cracks, no holes, all studs intact, $100 + shipping.
( if you don't need the black "filler" panels the lenses are $75 + shipping )
Send me a PM with your Zip coe if you're interested and need a shipping quote.
( if you don't need the black "filler" panels the lenses are $75 + shipping )
Send me a PM with your Zip coe if you're interested and need a shipping quote.
06-13-2014, 09:13 PM
#2
Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
Would you do 100.00 shipped? And I would want you to pack them perfect. I sent a set to hawks third gen for restoration and they were damaged during shipment. Thats the only reason I'm needing yours. Please feel free to call me 256-244-2636 my zip is 35016
06-25-2014, 07:47 PM
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Dont buy **** from this guy. I bought these lights. They arrived clearly broken. I attempted a pm to which no reply. Made paypal dispute. He replys thanks thats my only income now its locked. Then claims these lights were only worth 28.00 but charged me 115.00 shipped. Refuses to make refund and calls me a liar. Says I'm passing my lights off as his. Well I didn't have no f****** lights thats why i bought these. Why in the blue f**k would I buy your lights and then try to f*** you out of them? I have 20 grand in this build. I would pay 500 for a good set. But I won't just waste money of no kind.
He knew they were broken the lens was busted in the center. No way it happened in shipping. I am the one getting the golden goose here.
If I have to spend 10 grand John in RI to take my 115.00 back I will. Bet on it...
He knew they were broken the lens was busted in the center. No way it happened in shipping. I am the one getting the golden goose here.
If I have to spend 10 grand John in RI to take my 115.00 back I will. Bet on it...
06-26-2014, 03:12 PM
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Claims that I intentionally shipped him busted lenses;and that I KNEW they were busted when I shipped them. I handled those lenses for 45 minutes while packing them up "super padded" to insure they arrived safe. There's NO WAY I'm sending you a fulll refund for your busted parts dude.
Here is what he claims I shipped him;
I'll be fully detailing my transaction with Dale once I get back so folks here see ALL the info and can make the call as to who the fraud is.
P.S. I'm interested to hear from Hawks; if they see this thread - feel free to comment on your taillight transaction with Dale.
Here is what he claims I shipped him;
I'll be fully detailing my transaction with Dale once I get back so folks here see ALL the info and can make the call as to who the fraud is.
P.S. I'm interested to hear from Hawks; if they see this thread - feel free to comment on your taillight transaction with Dale.
06-26-2014, 03:21 PM
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That is what you shipped me. I dont have any tails but the ones you shipped me. Mine are still at Hawks. They arrived there busted *******. The only ****ing lights I have are yours.
I have never in all my years had one issue.
I sent a guy some door panels that got lost or he got and said he didn't, guess what? I refunded his money. I may have got screwed because I never got the panels back but he didnt get screwed.
These are your lights John Agli of (insert your address here). I meant what I said about I will spend 10 grand to take my 115.00 back. Money isnt the issue. Its the fact they were packed so well and arrived with a crack that I know you knew. Why the hell would I raise a big fuss over these lights if I were trying to pass mine off as yours. Mine are in EASLEY SC!!!!!!!!
DON'T CALL ME A THIEF OR A LIAR AGAIN. You sir are the one doing the screwing.
I promise on my family these are your
Junk busted junkyard tail lights that you sold me.
I have never in all my years had one issue.
I sent a guy some door panels that got lost or he got and said he didn't, guess what? I refunded his money. I may have got screwed because I never got the panels back but he didnt get screwed.
These are your lights John Agli of (insert your address here). I meant what I said about I will spend 10 grand to take my 115.00 back. Money isnt the issue. Its the fact they were packed so well and arrived with a crack that I know you knew. Why the hell would I raise a big fuss over these lights if I were trying to pass mine off as yours. Mine are in EASLEY SC!!!!!!!!
DON'T CALL ME A THIEF OR A LIAR AGAIN. You sir are the one doing the screwing.
I promise on my family these are your
Junk busted junkyard tail lights that you sold me.
06-26-2014, 03:33 PM
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You insured the package. I still have the box it came in with the sticker on top.
Why wouldn't you say "sorry man no worries I will refund your money send them back and I will take care of it"?
To simple. I would send them back in
The same box and boom. Done.
Why? Because youre a shady ****er and you know it.
I will not go silently into the night.
Dale
Why wouldn't you say "sorry man no worries I will refund your money send them back and I will take care of it"?
To simple. I would send them back in
The same box and boom. Done.
Why? Because youre a shady ****er and you know it.
I will not go silently into the night.
Dale
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06-28-2014, 07:55 PM
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This is the comment this guy sent to paypal. Explain to me how I paid 115.00 for a tail light he says is only worth 28.00. All lies John....
6/25/2014 04:56 PDT - Seller: The tail lights I shipped are/were EXACTLY as described. "Complete & in good used condition; no cracks, no holes, all studs intact " ( I have NEVER - and will NEVER - call used parts "MINT"). The taillights I sent to Dale are the taillights that were pictured and their condition was EXACTLY as advertised. Buyer trying to claim his original (broken) parts are the parts I shipped him. Here is the original add: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/exte...ights.htmlThis is the picture Dale sent me of his cracked lens - Claiming that It was the lens that I shipped him "already broken".http://www.berlinetta.info/temp/MullinsTail1.jpgIt's quite obvious that there was a past attempt to repair & restore the lens he pictured. (crack is not a clean crack thru the Black grid- it has been smoothed out and the lens shows a bad ( bubbling ) re-paint. This is NOT the lens I sold to him, this is NOT the lens I shipped him. Here is the Insurance tag showing shipping costs: http://www.berlinetta.info/temp/Slip.jpgThere are 4 parts to a complete set of lenses, 2 Lenses and 2 filler panels. Shipping $23.502 Fillers = $252 Lenses - $56.60He paid $28.30 for each lens. He also claims 1 lens was shipped already cracked. However he is demanding that I issue a FULL refund PLUS extra $$ so he can ship his broken parts to me.I've been a member in good standing @ the website this transaction originated from for over a decade without a single incident. It is ludicrous to believe that I would jeopardize a stellar reputation over a $28 taillight. For reference, here is my feedback from other buyers there over the years. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/itrader.php?u=884: The lens he claims was shipped to him 'already broken' is his old lens. I will not be issuing Dale a full refund, He received the tail lights that he paid for.John in RI
6/25/2014 04:56 PDT - Seller: The tail lights I shipped are/were EXACTLY as described. "Complete & in good used condition; no cracks, no holes, all studs intact " ( I have NEVER - and will NEVER - call used parts "MINT"). The taillights I sent to Dale are the taillights that were pictured and their condition was EXACTLY as advertised. Buyer trying to claim his original (broken) parts are the parts I shipped him. Here is the original add: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/exte...ights.htmlThis is the picture Dale sent me of his cracked lens - Claiming that It was the lens that I shipped him "already broken".http://www.berlinetta.info/temp/MullinsTail1.jpgIt's quite obvious that there was a past attempt to repair & restore the lens he pictured. (crack is not a clean crack thru the Black grid- it has been smoothed out and the lens shows a bad ( bubbling ) re-paint. This is NOT the lens I sold to him, this is NOT the lens I shipped him. Here is the Insurance tag showing shipping costs: http://www.berlinetta.info/temp/Slip.jpgThere are 4 parts to a complete set of lenses, 2 Lenses and 2 filler panels. Shipping $23.502 Fillers = $252 Lenses - $56.60He paid $28.30 for each lens. He also claims 1 lens was shipped already cracked. However he is demanding that I issue a FULL refund PLUS extra $$ so he can ship his broken parts to me.I've been a member in good standing @ the website this transaction originated from for over a decade without a single incident. It is ludicrous to believe that I would jeopardize a stellar reputation over a $28 taillight. For reference, here is my feedback from other buyers there over the years. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/itrader.php?u=884: The lens he claims was shipped to him 'already broken' is his old lens. I will not be issuing Dale a full refund, He received the tail lights that he paid for.John in RI
06-29-2014, 12:14 AM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
From your quote I looked that the shipping receipt. It looks like in the right hand column in the box that says "insurance coverage," that it was insured for $100.
The $20.92 is for postage and the 2.60 was additional paid for insurance -with the postage total & fees = $23.52.
Is it possible the tail light was damaged in shipping? Do you still have the box that it was shipped in?
If the box was damaged, then it would help with insurance paying out the claim. Sometimes they come out to inspect the package as well.
The $20.92 is for postage and the 2.60 was additional paid for insurance -with the postage total & fees = $23.52.
Is it possible the tail light was damaged in shipping? Do you still have the box that it was shipped in?
If the box was damaged, then it would help with insurance paying out the claim. Sometimes they come out to inspect the package as well.
06-29-2014, 05:49 AM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
From your quote I looked that the shipping receipt. It looks like in the right hand column in the box that says "insurance coverage," that it was insured for $100.
The $20.92 is for postage and the 2.60 was additional paid for insurance -with the postage total & fees = $23.52.
Is it possible the tail light was damaged in shipping? Do you still have the box that it was shipped in?
If the box was damaged, then it would help with insurance paying out the claim. Sometimes they come out to inspect the package as well.
The $20.92 is for postage and the 2.60 was additional paid for insurance -with the postage total & fees = $23.52.
Is it possible the tail light was damaged in shipping? Do you still have the box that it was shipped in?
If the box was damaged, then it would help with insurance paying out the claim. Sometimes they come out to inspect the package as well.
That's why we insure things- even if you don't believe a person, you make a claim with insurance, and move on. Losing your reputation is not worth digging your heels in.
Beth
06-29-2014, 07:12 AM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
A good solution would be claim it on insurance once he sends the tail back and replace it. You get paid for the 2nd tail and he doesn't get cash back, just another tail. If he is trying to pull a fast one, it wouldn't be satisfactory to him. If all he want's is a good part, it should please everyone involved. I've seen my share of shipping damage in getting parts. I have also seen nothing but good references about John. Him and Beth are the two main sellers here I will tell people to go to. I don't believe for one second he intentionally sent, or even accidentally, a damaged part.
06-30-2014, 04:33 PM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
115. That is the # of great reviews he has. Not one negative review. Do you think after all those reviews he'd finally go well to make a hundred bucks on some tail lights I will post good lights and send crap lights....no.
Where as Dale has only been a member of this site for 8 months, only has 10 posts. And no reputation to protect.
That is all I need to see
Where as Dale has only been a member of this site for 8 months, only has 10 posts. And no reputation to protect.
That is all I need to see
06-30-2014, 04:42 PM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
[quote=UnderCover89TBI;5785625 Dale has only been a member of this site for 8 months, only has 10 posts. And no reputation to protect.[/quote]
Let's not forget to mention five of those posts are in this thread.
Let's not forget to mention five of those posts are in this thread.
06-30-2014, 04:52 PM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
115. That is the # of great reviews he has. Not one negative review. Do you think after all those reviews he'd finally go well to make a hundred bucks on some tail lights I will post good lights and send crap lights....no.
Where as Dale has only been a member of this site for 8 months, only has 10 posts. And no reputation to protect.
That is all I need to see
Where as Dale has only been a member of this site for 8 months, only has 10 posts. And no reputation to protect.
That is all I need to see
07-07-2014, 09:27 PM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
From your quote I looked that the shipping receipt. It looks like in the right hand column in the box that says "insurance coverage," that it was insured for $100.
The $20.92 is for postage and the 2.60 was additional paid for insurance -with the postage total & fees = $23.52.
Is it possible the tail light was damaged in shipping? Do you still have the box that it was shipped in?
If the box was damaged, then it would help with insurance paying out the claim. Sometimes they come out to inspect the package as well.
The $20.92 is for postage and the 2.60 was additional paid for insurance -with the postage total & fees = $23.52.
Is it possible the tail light was damaged in shipping? Do you still have the box that it was shipped in?
If the box was damaged, then it would help with insurance paying out the claim. Sometimes they come out to inspect the package as well.
Here's what he returned to me for his FULL REFUND.
Updates here for anyone that might care to know the kind of guy Frank is:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/clas...ml#post5788980
07-07-2014, 11:06 PM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
115. That is the # of great reviews he has. Not one negative review. Do you think after all those reviews he'd finally go well to make a hundred bucks on some tail lights I will post good lights and send crap lights....no.
Where as Dale has only been a member of this site for 8 months, only has 10 posts. And no reputation to protect.
That is all I need to see
Where as Dale has only been a member of this site for 8 months, only has 10 posts. And no reputation to protect.
That is all I need to see
Just because I been lurking here reading not posting because I have a life doesn't mean I'm the bad guy. Those lights are the ones he sent. I am not pulling nothing. I recieved them. Opened them, seen the damage and immediately contacted him. He ignored me. Its easy to change a time stamp when copy and pasting.
I asked him to refund my money plus return shipping. Why should I be out any money for parts clearly not what I paid for?
Why dont you stop judging and think about it.
07-07-2014, 11:15 PM
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All I wanted was a clean set of lights. It pisses me off that I paid for these and they arrived cracked. I shouldn't have to defend myself. It is what it is.
Im done. Whatever happens its gonna happen. Im done.
07-08-2014, 01:13 AM
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Wow. And I thought I was an *******. Just stop bitching about the damn lights you ****ing crybaby. If you have that kind of money to sink into a car. Then why not just buy reproductions from classic industries or another company? Your really going to waste your time arguing over this kind of stuff when you have that kind of money to throw around?
If money is no issue as you say then why don't you send me $20,000 for my third gen? I could use that money. hell while your at it why don't you just send us all on here $20,000 if money is no issue then? You cant and you know why? your a liar and a piece of **** con man trying to screw over someone who is trying to make an honest living and sell something online.
But your to good for us hard working people who don't have $20,000+ to spend on our cars. You know what I take that back. Your not a just a con man. Your a rich lonely ******* who has nothing better to do then waste our time. So back to your rich *******s and your con men buddies and leave us honest people alone. And don't threaten someone you don't know buddy. Anyone can threaten someone online.
And you know what? most of them are a bunch of ******* who act tough online but couldn't hurt a fly little long one of us on here. So get the hell out of here now before you **** someone off and they come after you. Take your bullshit somewhere else to someone who gives a **** you ****ing *******.
If money is no issue as you say then why don't you send me $20,000 for my third gen? I could use that money. hell while your at it why don't you just send us all on here $20,000 if money is no issue then? You cant and you know why? your a liar and a piece of **** con man trying to screw over someone who is trying to make an honest living and sell something online.
But your to good for us hard working people who don't have $20,000+ to spend on our cars. You know what I take that back. Your not a just a con man. Your a rich lonely ******* who has nothing better to do then waste our time. So back to your rich *******s and your con men buddies and leave us honest people alone. And don't threaten someone you don't know buddy. Anyone can threaten someone online.
And you know what? most of them are a bunch of ******* who act tough online but couldn't hurt a fly little long one of us on here. So get the hell out of here now before you **** someone off and they come after you. Take your bullshit somewhere else to someone who gives a **** you ****ing *******.
I am tough. Fought in Iraq. Infantry.
Im not conning anyone. Its me who got screwed.
**** ****Al. Thats my address.
You dont scare me. Come see how tough you think I am.....
F*ck you. F*ck John and f*ck those Goldman lights.
Today 7-8-11 marks 3 years since my brother died. This car is what I am building in his memory.
I am not a liar. I am not a thief. I am not a con.
I can bet good money you are the *****......
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07-08-2014, 01:19 AM
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And for arguments sake its not about the money. Its about being called a liar and a thief. Niether of which am I. Its about principle.
Period. Now Knight Prowler you have my name and my address and my phone number.
Ask me if I'm the least bit scared..... I'm one good day away from eating a bullet anyways. This ****ing deal.
You can't get repos ******* I looked. Why the hell you think I bought these to restore....
Period. Now Knight Prowler you have my name and my address and my phone number.
Ask me if I'm the least bit scared..... I'm one good day away from eating a bullet anyways. This ****ing deal.
You can't get repos ******* I looked. Why the hell you think I bought these to restore....
07-08-2014, 02:31 AM
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Apology is fine. Accepted.
This whole ordeal has just disgusted me.
I knew about those links you shared. I called on them. They are discontinued. No known supplier to. Reproduce. Thats why they say out of stock. Believe me I would have rather went that way....
This whole ordeal has just disgusted me.
I knew about those links you shared. I called on them. They are discontinued. No known supplier to. Reproduce. Thats why they say out of stock. Believe me I would have rather went that way....
07-15-2014, 10:43 AM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
Long story - short,.....
A claim was filed against me over this transaction.
I escalated the claim to a dispute.
PayPal sided with the buyer and he was granted a full refund.
Items were returned - destroyed.
Appeal was filed with Paypal.
PayPal accepted the appeal and most of the funds were recovered.
Paypal dispute is now CLOSED.
Sure wish that things turned out different; NO ONE is happy with the way it worked out in the end.
A claim was filed against me over this transaction.
I escalated the claim to a dispute.
PayPal sided with the buyer and he was granted a full refund.
Items were returned - destroyed.
Appeal was filed with Paypal.
PayPal accepted the appeal and most of the funds were recovered.
Paypal dispute is now CLOSED.
Sure wish that things turned out different; NO ONE is happy with the way it worked out in the end.
07-15-2014, 10:53 AM
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Re: IROC Grid Tail Lights Checkerboard Taillights
I'm glad you didn't get totally screwed, and it shows very clearly that just returning the items isn't enough, you have to return them in the same condition you received them
Glad it mostly worked out for you. You didn't get the full amount back, but you didn't get totally screwed either.
Glad it mostly worked out for you. You didn't get the full amount back, but you didn't get totally screwed either.
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