http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard Questions about your suspension? Need chassis advice? en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:01:25 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550251-subframe-connectors.html Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:28:55 GMT I need advice on which subframe connectors to purchase and which ones to avoid. I am new to the 3rd gen camaro world and there is much more selection... I need advice on which subframe connectors to purchase and which ones to avoid. I am new to the 3rd gen camaro world and there is much more selection that I am used to :)

Investigating, it seems SummitRacing sells connectors from as low as $99 up to $250. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CEE-3046/

Spohn connectors run at $199
http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-...me-Connectors/

I will be welding them to the frame (even if they are bolt-on style). So what is the real difference? Or is it just brand name vs generic? Can I get a recommendation of what to look for and what to avoid? ]]> Suspension / Chassis marmieej http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550251-subframe-connectors.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550177-parachute-mount.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:25:43 GMT does anyone make a bolt in parachute mount for our cars??? wolfe racecraft does for the 4th gen but not sure it it will fit on ours. thanks in... does anyone make a bolt in parachute mount for our cars??? wolfe racecraft does for the 4th gen but not sure it it will fit on ours. thanks in advance!!!! ]]> Suspension / Chassis badbilly http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550177-parachute-mount.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550165-s-w-subframe-into.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:51:51 GMT well, my winter project is to tackle the rust on the car and redo all of the stock-old undercoating underneath. i began by pulling up the carpet,... well, my winter project is to tackle the rust on the car and redo all of the stock-old undercoating underneath. i began by pulling up the carpet, after taking out the seats, center console, radio, moving wires, etc. i looked around online, carpets for the pass cabin go for under $200, so i think i'll scrap this 23 year old carpet for a new one...



looking at the floor pans i noticed that everywhere is rust free in the car, EXCEPT THE DRIVERS SIDE FLOORPAN AND KICK PANEL AREA. damn. i knew i had to attack it now before it spreads.





]]> Suspension / Chassis IROCZman15 http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550165-s-w-subframe-into.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550164-broken-k-member-problems.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:25:48 GMT My roomate has an 89 firebird formula, and we just did a cam, carb, distributor swap and about to do posi rearend and shift kit. we were underneath... My roomate has an 89 firebird formula, and we just did a cam, carb, distributor swap and about to do posi rearend and shift kit. we were underneath the front end doin an oil change and i noticed that the lower control arm on the driver side had broke away from the frame now we have another k member all ready to go in but i cant find any info on how to swap it, my roomate is a collision tech and im an auto tech so we have the tools and common sense to do it once i have an idea of what all needs to come off before it can come out. so any ideas please help im planning on doing this on saturday mornin.. ]]> Suspension / Chassis TS87GTA http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550164-broken-k-member-problems.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550148-heavy-knocking-when-drive.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:56:40 GMT Perhaps I should have put this in the engine section but im posting it here based on what I have heard. When i shift my car from park to drive or... Perhaps I should have put this in the engine section but im posting it here based on what I have heard. When i shift my car from park to drive or reverse i get a loud violent knocking along with the car jolting heavily, in newer cars I know you have to have your foot on the break to shift out of park but with my 85 TA I don't, and if I shift without my foot on the break it engage hard enough to chirp the tires and the car will jolt forward, anyways I was told it could be the torque bar in the rear end of the car or the torque bar running down the car allong the driveshaft, it dosnt look like there is anything visualy wrong with them. To be honest its like shifting out of park when your RPM's are too high, my engine idles at roughly 750-850 RPM.

If someone could give me some more insight on this it would be great

Trent ]]> Suspension / Chassis 85TransAmDude http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550148-heavy-knocking-when-drive.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550013-ladder-bar-converted-3-a.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:10:29 GMT I already have a ladder bar car currently. The suspension was done over 15 years ago when cars had to make the choice of being all out drag or... I already have a ladder bar car currently. The suspension was done over 15 years ago when cars had to make the choice of being all out drag or other. But now I want it to be streetable, so am considering some enhancements. This is my first car so the sentimental value rules out starting over with another car.

For now, i think that I will leave the ladders in and change the front mount to accommodate a Spohn Del-Sphere. But later, could I use the ladder bar links to connect a LCA and then either some version of a torque arm or four link? The concern I have is that the ladder links are closer to the pumpkin. Would having much longer LCAs mounted closer to the pumpkin be good or bad? I have a 9" rear right now, so it would be more work to use the stock LCA locations, but not impossible.

I have lots to do before this, but I just wanted to get my thought down on cyber paper. ]]> Suspension / Chassis graebz28 http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/550013-ladder-bar-converted-3-a.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549994-rear-bilsteins.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:52:25 GMT Played sick from work so I can have my rear Bilsteins installed. Went to a local shop and had them do it. They showed me the old shocks. They were... Played sick from work so I can have my rear Bilsteins installed. Went to a local shop and had them do it. They showed me the old shocks. They were the original ones that were installed with the car back when they built it. Once I got my car on the road, what a major difference! Not only because the old shocks were junk but the ride is absolutly perfect. No problems with feeling every crack on the road and awesome cornering. Then again, I have the Ronal R15 wheels on. ]]> Suspension / Chassis MY87LT http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549994-rear-bilsteins.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549937-air-bag-suspension-universal.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:22:49 GMT I was wondering if air bags can be used universally on certain cars, because our cars have a lot of room that looks like you can just bolt up any... I was wondering if air bags can be used universally on certain cars, because our cars have a lot of room that looks like you can just bolt up any bags to the suspension wire it up and it will work. I have a friend who has a kit that complete with bags wiring switches and tank that came off a 70 mustang but were not made for a 70 mustang, made for something like a civic or jetta he beieves. The brackets attached to 2 of the bags closely resemble the strut part of front shocks ( I have a 91 camaro ) and the rear looks pretty simple does anyone have any information, do you think it could be done. ]]> Suspension / Chassis C305 http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549937-air-bag-suspension-universal.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549894-drag-center-link-position.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:25:27 GMT I'm an F-Body newbie and I wasn't paying attention. My oh so bad...

When looking underneath the car from the front, should the drag-link be in front of the tie-rods or behind them? ]]> Suspension / Chassis cybrslider http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549894-drag-center-link-position.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549869-what-replace-improve-ride.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:35:20 GMT the 92 camaro rs we have has the original suspension, everything on it is from the factory and it rides rough. i know they are supposed to ride like... the 92 camaro rs we have has the original suspension, everything on it is from the factory and it rides rough. i know they are supposed to ride like bricks but there is quite a bit of play in the steering and over bumps and railroad tracks it doesnt feel very solid. it has 130k miles on it and we are pretty sure its had at least one teenage owner before we got it. it was pretty poorly mantained so were wondering what you would all recommend should be done to make this car ride like new again? ]]> Suspension / Chassis J91Camaro http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549869-what-replace-improve-ride.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549867-something-think-about-low.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:30:18 GMT I have a 86 Iroc that sits very low to the ground. I had it up on the rack yesterday and realized something most people dont think about when... I have a 86 Iroc that sits very low to the ground. I had it up on the rack yesterday and realized something most people dont think about when lowering a car. Limiting straps! Most of the time these are used on 4wheelers so they dont over extend expensive shocks on thier rig. Well with my camaro lifted by the frame, the rear axle drops so far the the rear springs practically fall out! While its not often, on occasion havin to back out of a steep driveway at an angle I lift a rear wheel, never thought anything of it untill I realized what happens to the springs!

Anyone have any ideas or thoughts on installing limiting straps to a lowered thirdgen? ]]> Suspension / Chassis IROCK ZZ http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549867-something-think-about-low.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549816-arm-bushing-concern-safety.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:07:05 GMT i just repalced my front struts, springs, strut mounts and ball joints... guess what i forgot..... the front control arm bushings!!!!! so naturally,... i just repalced my front struts, springs, strut mounts and ball joints... guess what i forgot..... the front control arm bushings!!!!! so naturally, guess what i don't want to do again?

so, is there a way (a semi-safe way) to remove the rear of the control arm to replace the bushings without having to go through the process again of removing the spindle, springs, struts???

any ideas?
i thought of supporting the arm with a jack and lowering slowly to remove bushing but concerned about the spring having to much force to keep it steady...

also, when i do it, i'm torn between rubber or poly... i want decent handling but a comfortable ride with minimal bumpiness... it is an 89 iroc, moog 5662 (stock spring), kyb gr-2 struts/mounts, poly sway buskings and end links, poly trans mount, spohn ball joints. i am about to also get the spohn front end kit (tie rods, idler, center link). what are thounghts on bushing type for application? if heard good/bad both ways... ]]> Suspension / Chassis jjskibbs http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549816-arm-bushing-concern-safety.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549802-dropping-car-1-5-a.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:46:45 GMT I have a 1983 Trans Am and have been thinking about dropping the car 1.5 or so inches. I was planning on buying a 1 inch lowering springs and cutting... I have a 1983 Trans Am and have been thinking about dropping the car 1.5 or so inches. I was planning on buying a 1 inch lowering springs and cutting some of the spring off. I would like to know if I put these springs in will I have to do anything else? Will my ride down the road be bumpier? Any tips or suggestions on dropping my car would be greatly appreciated. ]]> Suspension / Chassis lbarile1991 http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549802-dropping-car-1-5-a.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549755-power-steering-question.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:23:40 GMT I am getting ready to upgrade my power steering and my question is in relation to the pump. I have a 600 series box which is much smaller and... I am getting ready to upgrade my power steering and my question is in relation to the pump. I have a 600 series box which is much smaller and lighter than the 800 series box...it also has much better internals as well. In addition I will use a March power steering pulley along with a new flaming River shaft.

Does the GM Type II pump that is used on the LT1's work on our application? What I mean is will that pump and reservoir fit onto our bracket assembly in the stock location?

That is the last piece I want to upgrade before putting it all together. ]]> Suspension / Chassis david auster http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549755-power-steering-question.html http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549670-drag-suspension.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:40:33 GMT Ok the season is over and we did alot of good with our brand new 3rd gen. my fiance got 4th in points in her fist yr and i also drove in other... Ok the season is over and we did alot of good with our brand new 3rd gen. my fiance got 4th in points in her fist yr and i also drove in other classes and got alot of win lights.its a street legal car that alot of people here said wouldnt hold together. we only broke one thing on the last race which was the gears think it knocked off two teeth. anyway were lookin to upgrade this winter and im searching for some ideas. forgot to mention was a factory v6 car and has all factory v6 suspension still. looks great with the rake in it. i can send pics in anyone is interested.

Current:motor-388 stroker on 93 pump gas. made 416hp and 468 ft lbs tq
trans-built 350 turbo with 3500 stall tci converter B&M zgate shifter in factory location which looks great!
driveline- factory drive shaft factory rear end housing with 4.10 gears and mini spool. 10.5x29 slicks
chassis- STOCK! no joke all original. swap trans crossmember and drive shaft loop thats it.

ok for upgrades i already have factory alum driveshaft to lighten rotatin wieght. removin factory gas tank goin to fuel cell and electric pump. we are cagin the car and cuttin out some wieght as well. all we took out was back seat spare and jack. im open to all ideas but this is a budget car kinda so if somethin could be made please i would love to know. i am open to some machines to fab material up. also i heard these cars came out factory disc rear brake how hard would it be to swap? thanks i know its a long post but all help is appreciated. ]]> Suspension / Chassis flying89 http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/suspension-chassis/549670-drag-suspension.html