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Old 10-06-2009, 09:37 PM   #101
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there you go, now this question never has to be asked again
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That has got to be the funniest thing I've read all year. You know how many times pics like that have been posted, yet people STILL ask, instead of searching & finding the pic already posted?
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:32 PM   #102
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you know it will be

in a few days.. maybe even hours
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:48 PM   #103
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there is always hope, have to think positively.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:37 PM   #104
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I cut the hole for access to my fuel pump but i dont have the room to take it out pull the pump all the way out im wondering how you guys did that part?
Last week my sender goes death. Thinking about the standard procedure of emptying, lowering the tank, the dif, brakes etc... that is not going to happen, never, forget it. Then I cut the famous access hole and... surprise... the lines goes over and around the tank.
The pics are pretty self explanatory. First cut the lines by hand using a hacksaw, then another inch on the lose lines with a mini pipe cuter to get some room. DON,T EVEN THINK ABOUT USING AN ELECTRIC TOOL ON THE LINES, YOU DON,T WANT ANY SPARKS FLYING AT TIS POINT. Cut the wires and splice with blade connectors. I use hi quality fuel injection hose because it stays flexible, cheap fuel hose tend to get hard as a pipe and have to break it each time you disassemble the thing.
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:59 PM   #105
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Re: FUEL PUMP ACCESS HOLE

Here used an industrial coating over the scratches and edges.
The strainer was in bad shape so removed and put a 3/8 hose, a little longer and angled so the tip seat horizontal in the bottom.
I happen to have a nice aluminum plate with some sort of "noise dampening material". Fixed with a small line of window silicone around the edge, just enough to leave the fumes outside and the next repair it just pry of easily. Don't want to drill screws because cutting over the tank was scary enough. Unless you are planing to carry a stove in the rear there is no need for screws, the carpet is so thick that it is not going anywhere.
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:09 PM   #106
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Re: FUEL PUMP ACCESS HOLE

The perfect crime...

And my needle is happy again...

!!! Puerto Rico lo hace mejor !!!
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:46 PM   #107
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ok so this is how it is supposed to look without a gasket. i will have to paint this again - i have taken it on and off so many times i need to paint it again. which i have now sanded and done again. but you will not get a picture of it again.
Very nice job and I like the fasteners



Is that trazodone on the pic...

I think it read at the bottom "Don't operate hevy machinery or cut over fuel tanks wile using this medication"...

Just joking, don't take me bad, I have aripiprazole on mine.

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Old 10-28-2009, 06:57 PM   #108
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Re: FUEL PUMP ACCESS HOLE

I agree with arrow it takes me 2-3 hours to change a pump out in a thridgen. Buddy of mine and I have the record in about an hour with using air tools and hour 30 on the ground. With little tools and a dying flashlght. The bolts consist of mostly 7mm, 10mm, 13,mm 14mm, 15mm and 18mm. Granted that time frame doesn't take into acount for cars that have never been torn apart rusted to crap suspension parts. Even at that, it would be a good time tto upgrade that stuff also. Being as it is prolly shot also.

That was funny has hell that night at the car show. Being heckled by a bunch of e-list I signed every paycheck over to have my car built for me pricks. While having the complete pump changed out in 1.5 hours start to finish.

BTW Uncle Tom I do know what huck bolts are and use many of them a day. They aren't rivets. Rivets are shot with an impact/rivet gun and huck bolts are pulled.

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Old 11-01-2009, 04:26 PM   #109
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Re: FUEL PUMP ACCESS HOLE

I was thinking about doing this but would like to use compression fittings on the lines so I could unhook them easily, does anyone know what size the fuel lines are so I can get the correct fittings? Or does anyone know a easier way of doing it except for using rubber hose and clamps because if I am not mistaken one of those lines are high pressure
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:54 AM   #110
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Re: FUEL PUMP ACCESS HOLE

Main supply => 3/8"
Return side => 5/16"
Vapor Canister line => 1/4"

The fourth line appears to be some kind of pressure vent.
For better or worse, I just plugged this one.

Lowe's/H-D don't have a very good selection of 5/16 fittings.
Probably have better luck at an independent Ace Hardware store.

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Old 11-03-2009, 01:21 AM   #111
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:02 AM   #112
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Re: FUEL PUMP ACCESS HOLE

This is always a funny subject. Half the people yell "No!" the other half yell "Yes!"

Personally I admit I did do this to my 92 RS. However I had just converted from TBI to HSR, built the motor from scratch, ran into a TON of problems, and in the end I still had to swap the pump.

After all that work, dropping the tank was the last thing I wanted to do. So I cut the famous hole.

Now I am a mechanic, and No I would not do this to other people's vehicles. Unless it was a close friend with consent to do so. That was not the case though. After 30 minutes the pump was in and ready to go. Total life saver IMO.
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Old 11-14-2009, 03:32 PM   #113
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This is always a funny subject. Half the people yell "No!" the other half yell "Yes!"
Ever read the power window motor install thread? People were ready to kill...lol! Good times.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/bo...tall-easy.html (Window motor install.......THE EASY WAY....the tech article is bogus!)
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:33 PM   #114
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Jeez, there sure is a lot of haters in this post.

I like it. Thanks for taking the time and making the effort to add some good tech to the site. Rest assured that it will help someone in the future.
I concur!
I blew out the original 305 (nice motor but when you have to power merge on to a highway from a stand still and car are going over 70mph and after 15 minutes you have to get on the highway somewhere down Georgia, loaded with your honey and luggage for your trip to the Fl Keys. 0 to 70 just takes a long time.) could not find another 305, so I seen a junk yard in NJ with a 350 TBI off a 92 RoadMaster(cool name, lots of torque)) estate wagon, Converted it back to a Carb Setup for my pretty little Quadrajet. Now I have this noise in the rear of my car when fuel is low and I make a sharp turn. "CLANK, CLANK, CLANK, CLANK, CLANK, CLANK".
It goes on till I get more gas in the car. I have an external fuel pump by the tank. I wanted to get a internal one for the tank but I was intimidated into dropping the tank and puting a new one in. I read a thread that said one member drooped his tank for time in one year with pumps from autozone and advance autoparts. so I didn't wanna go thru that.

This is a great Idea you got, thanks for turning on unused brain cells. My interstate transportation capsule will be even more easier to service and that is one less thing to worry about when your going on 4000 to 5000 mile round trips, a couple of times a year
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:42 PM   #115
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Re: FUEL PUMP ACCESS HOLE

Heck yeah!I love this mod!!I did mine on my 91-z before tony posted this.Got my info from that tta thread.If you ask me,this is the (right)way!
But all you purists out there including the ones that said I was doing a hack job back then and just love the idea now..haha!!
Next time I need shocks,maybe I should drop the fuel tank first.That would make the upper bolts easier to gain access with an open end wrench...
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