oscarsrs

ok this is another members car,sorry to use your car but is the best pic i could find with the right angle for photoshop. the other pic is the mercedez truck as you can see the bottom of the bumber is very square like ours, i figure this can be done... a little cut here a little fiber glass over there and boom! a more modern bumber keeping the same lines. what do you guys think ?

irock88

different, could you not install tips into your bumper along with some chrome bezels

oscarsrs

what keeping the bumber in stock form? nah i dont like the way it looks it looks cheap by just cutting holes in it. this gives it a more modern look.

duckmanquacker

I asume you're refering to the mini rollpan.

83 Crossfire TA

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I like it... I think it will be more work to do than you expect, but I like the idea...

Mathius

The front valance works better with its ability to flex because it often comes into contact with curbs, things in the road, etc.

But the rear doesn't really have to flex all that much because it sits up very high and is really only going to be contacted in a legit accident (unless you just screw up and back into something).

Having said that I think you could get away with making a fiberglass rear valance. If you look at the "Flush Rear Bumper" thread, there's a link to fiberglass forums.com where you can learn all about this stuff.

I've always wondered if there were any special requirements for dealing with heat from the exhaust. They always put a heat shield on from the factory, but they generally don't last the life of the car so I've always wondered just how necessary they are or what purpose they're really meant to serve.

Mathius

oscarsrs

well what i was thinking was finding the bumper(mercedez) at a junk yard and just cut the bottom piece and since is square and the ends just like ours it should be able to go over our stock gfx with no problem. i dont think the stock one will require any mod other than the cut out for the tips so that the piece lines up. my car is going to get new paint so prep would take care of any imperfections which should be minimum.

Dante93GTZ

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Not a fan of it replacing (or being at the same level) as the stock bumper. If it dropped down a little bit over stock I'd be more for it. Nothing clunky, just maybe a low profile add on to the stocker, even if you trimmed a little bit of the stock bumper to fit, but not even that you sink the inlay part into the whole bumper.

irock88

This is what I was referring to IMO I think it looks good

oscarsrs

oh dont get me wrong it looks good but it does look like it was done back in 92. i want for it to look newer am also doing other minor touches to other parts of the car so when is done it will flow.

i tried to make the picture bigger..the more i look at it i like more and more

duckmanquacker

I like it because the outer edges match the angle of the taillights.

Larry 89GTA

I think I'd rather see it flipped upside down so the outer edges matched the contour of the bumper/gfx, but that's just me.

duckmanquacker

looks like the GFX kicks out at the bottom to me even on all 3 of my cars, Upsidedown would be the opposite of the GFX shape.

DeanJ

Here's my version. and as someone said, it's alot MORE WORK than you would expect.

oscarsrs

upside down is not an option, am not building this piece...the idea is to cut it off a junk yard piece and put it over the stock GFX, if you look at the benz pic i would only be using the very bottom piece as far as hard work is all cosmetics, my body guy is great with things like this so no worries.

CaliChevyLover

i kinda like it...just good look finding such a new car in a junkyard...let alone a very expensive mercedes.

FSTFBDYOLD

I like it. Even painted body color would be a nice touch. As for finding one. Car parts dot Com

oscarsrs

man live in south florida....driving down here is like driving in china town is not rare to see new cars trashed so by the time i get to doing the mod am sure ill find something.

Mathius

Have you even checked the dimensions yet to see if it will fit like you think it will? I'm just saying. I've thought the headlights from a Saturn Vue would make a nice different replacement for camaro headlamps, but without having both in front of me and a tape measure they won't necessarily work. Same with some of the side markers I've looked at over the years. You get an idea in your head, but if the dimensions aren't right it's not going to look how you picture. If it's too wide or too narrow you're gonna have to do some more work beyond mounting it.

If it DOES fit, then you're going to have to figure out a way to mount it from behind without damaging the outer panel, which is something none of us can offer you advice on unless either A. Someone here has a that particular SUV you posted, or B. You post pics of how it mounted from stock or the inside of the panel at least.

Mathius

oscarsrs

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the edges would have to be molded in, but is just an idea at this time, my guy does a lot of imports body kits and stuff so his pretty good molding stuff
I have seen crazy stuff at his shop, so it would be his problem to get it done...lol thats if i dont change my mind before then. lets see.
I mostly wanted feed back on the looks, I know people on this board are a tough crowd lol and give it to you as it is.

Stephen

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Good luck doing it, to a 'bird at least. I've looked under mine then found the inner metal bumper structure under the bumper cover. You'll find that there is only like 1" you cut up, before you get the the metal bumper structure. That would hafta be cut, notched & then reinforced.

Not saying it impossible. Not by a long shot. Just saying it is more than just urethane & paint work involved.

oscarsrs

Noo... the stock bumber would not need to be cut or worked in any way,all the work is on the GFX for tip clearence and the piece coming from the benz so that it doesn't look like the piece was just slapped on.

Stephen

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You misunderstood me.

On 'birds, like my GTA, there is only 1 INCH of bumper cover lower than the metal bumper structure under it. So putting the Benz oiece would have to be shorter tan 1". Unless you were to put less than 1" of that thing on a 'bird, you would HAVE to cut the bumper structure to fit the exhaust tips. Or use REALLY short tips.

oscarsrs

really? to be honest I have not looked under yet, I have to take a look at it now that you point that out, you see this is why I love TGO! thanks man !

Stephen

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Maybe the Camaros hang lower. Don't recall. Been too long since I've had one.

oscarsrs

so on a Bird if you wanted to have tips cut outs on each side of the bumber is not possible? that sucks I thing the pic below looks so slick...by the way sorry to whom ever is the owner of the car, I just used it for an example.

Stephen

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It could be done, sure. But you'd have to cut some of the metal bumper structure as well, then probably want to reinforce where you m made the cuts.

I had thought about using a 4th gen WS6 rear piece at one time & made this Photoshop.

DeanJ

There would be more work than just the inner metal bumper structure. Look up at my other post in this thread, where the exhaust comes through the center of the bumper. I had to cut the trunk well and raise it up 6" to have room for the pipes and tips. The well actually hangs lower than the bumper. Not trying to discourage, I'm just saying It's a LOT of work. So, if you will be doing this yourself be prepared. If you hire someone to do it, be prepared $$$$. Dean.

DeanJ

I like the late WS6 bomper treatment. The Mercedes style is a little to "busy" for me.
Dean

Stephen

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With center exhaust, yeah.

With notches out to the sides, you'd have more luck getting the exhaust pipe around the sides of the trunk well & not having to go through it, and still having the tips fit in the notches.

I had the corny idea at one time, of wondering what it would look like if you moved the license plate up like it is on Camaros then exiting your exhaust through where the license plate used to be.

duckmanquacker

I like that look stephen, but the headache to get there.

Badrs2810

I think the Mercedes rear exhalst clip looks sick on both bird and cam, intact I think I'm going to try it. I think u should go for it, that's nasty

slowmaro87

im am not at all one to allow things like this on a thirdgen...........but damn man ..i gotta be honest ...congrats on the idea i love it on both cars ...but me having a soft spot for a t/a ........F&*K that looks insane!!!!!

Duane's 91 Z/28

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It looks great on the T/A but I have to think about it on the Camaro.