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Old 11-26-2006, 05:26 PM   #1
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Nicest 3rd gen Trans Am you can buy for $1800. New paint and engine. LOOK! Quick sale

UPDATE: Car has been moved to Springfield, VA (was previously in PA when I posted this ad). It is titled, registered, and insured. I just drove this car on a 3 hour highway trip and had zero problems!!
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For sale: 1983 Firebird, 1985-90 Trans am body kit, hood, and bumpers added, body work done to get car super straight, fresh single stage urethane white paint (amateur paint job that shines and looks great but does have some runs that can easily be sanded and buffed out), brand new rebuilt 305 roller engine, 700R4 auto, runs and drives excellent. -->>$1800 Firm<<-- The extremely low price is due to my loss of storage space and I need to sell this car NOW, like last week! Please ONLY call or PM me if you really are interested. I would love to answer any questions you have if you are serious. (203) 868-6203 Steve. Call any time from 7am to 11pm. I also have a forged internal low mileage 327 engine (currently in the red car in my sig) that I am pulling for a 355. It is a powerful, flawless engine, fully ported & polished stock iron heads, etc. I can make you an unbelievable deal if you want the 327 and the trans am. I was planning on putting the 327 in the TA but just have too much else going on right now. The 327 runs high 13s in the Camaro right now with no traction, it would be really fast in the TA.
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PICTURES: Although I was in a hurry spraying paint, it sure does shine, and looks pretty darn good!
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Now for the long winded version:

I have a ton of time and money invested in this car but recently moved out of state to a new apartment and need to sell off some of my pleasure cars.

I started with a 95% rust free 1983 base model Firebird 6 cylinder 5 spd car. I rebuilt a 1987 305 TPI high output long block and equipped it with the correct-for-1983 model year CCC Quadrajet. I also spent many months scrounging ebay and salvage yards to equip this engine with ALL emissions equipment and electronic components that the 1983 305 V8 should have. The ECU is correct for a 1983 V8, is fully functioning, and runs with NO check engine lights. EVERYTHING including AIR, cat, etc all are functional. This car will pass a visual emissions inspection and it WILL pass the sniffer test. I built it assuming I would have to pass all emissions tests, so everything is factory correct for the 1983 model year. The engine is freshly rebuilt at standard bore. It is a roller cam 305 and runs very strong and smooth. The car will spin the tires no problem from a stop--it is responsive. The CCC Qjet is tuned well and works well. The 700R4 transmission came from a known good donor car and shifts flawlessly, it is really perfect. I converted the pedals and console over to automatic, you can't tell this was a 5 spd car from the interior. I bolted a delete plate over the floor hump hole where the 5 spd shifter originally was. You can easily unbolt it if you ever want to bring this car back to 5spd.

The body was straight but had the usual parking lot dings. I also deleted all of the body trim and welded the holes shut, and then did body work to make sure all panels are perfectly flat. I did not skimp on the body work -- this is not your typical MAACO job, I did it all myself in my shop. I'm an amateur but I do very good body work. I used a long board to keep all of the filler straight. I also sprayed 6 total coats of 2K catalyzed high build primer and blocked in between coats. You can look down the doors and they are dead straight, no waves at all. I purchased all of the 1985-90 trans am plastic body parts and associated brackets, and aligned and installed them myself. The body trim alignment is very good (not perfect but better than a lot of factory stuff I've seen!).

The blue interior is clean and in good shape. The front seats have covers that actually match the interior very well, you wouldn't know they are covers unless you look closely. The back seat has typical rips on top where you fold it down.

The paint is fresh Martin Senour 5.0 Urethane single stage. I also sprayed it myself with an HVLP setup. The pictures make the paint look a lot better than it is. It is a presentable paint job, but there are visible runs and dirt in the paint in a few areas. I spent a lot of time getting the body work perfect, and then I had to rush and paint the car in the garage because I had my wedding upcoming, and I had to move everything. I couldn't leave the car in primer, so I rushed painting it. It is very glossy and looks generally very good. The runs can be sanded and buffed out easily, and then the paint will look excellent. I painted all of the body trim off the car (the right way to do things! Not sprayed all together) and even hand blocked the urethane bumpers in high build primer to get it very straight before paint.

***UPDATE** ALL 4 TIRES ARE BRAND NEW. 225/60/15 fronts, 235/60/15 rears. The wheels are 15x7 front, 15x8 rear ARE wheels. They were originally blacked out centers, polished lip. I stripped all black paint and clearcoat in anticipation of repainting them. This hasn't happened yet. You can easily polish the lips and leave the centers bare aluminum, or repaint your choice of color if you wish.

I installed WS6 rear springs and brand new rear struts. I have new front struts and WS6 front springs that are included, but not installed yet. The rear is 3.42 open. The exhaust system is brand new OEM type front to rear. It has a 3" mandrel bent mid pipe (350 TPI setup), BRAND NEW 3" cat, new stock type Walker muffler.

I basically replaced EVERYTHING on this car when I converted it from the base model 1983 Firebird to a 1985-90 TA clone. I was intending to keep this car for many years, so I did not cut corners.

I am offering it for quick sale at $1800. This price is FIRM. I will NOT negotiate. I need to sell this car very, very quick, so I am taking many times the sale price in loss. The car is located in Springfield, VA, near Alexandria. It is registered, insured, and titled. It is what I described and nothing more, nothing less. It's not perfect, but you can't find a car that looks this good and runs this great for $1800, anywhere.
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:07 PM   #2
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Bump. Lots of views and no questions? The car is available for viewing if you let me know, I can have my friend who is local to where it is garaged show it. I will answer questions and I don't bite, I swear! I do have to sell this car fast if I am to sell it, otherwise I will go through the hassle of reregistering and transporting it from PA to VA, and then garage it here.
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Old 12-04-2006, 10:40 PM   #3
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I might be intrested. I would have to sell my dads el camino but its hard to convince him to switch since he wanted to restore that too. Ill keep in touch. Im in south jersey and i have a place to store it if i do buy it
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Old 12-04-2006, 10:51 PM   #4
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Hi, thanks for your interest. This is a short-term-only sale. If I don't sell the car in the next few weeks I am going to keep it. I'll go through the trouble to insure and move it to VA, where it will get the 327 coming out of my 77 Camaro. I took the car out last weekend, and it is such a great driving car I really don't want to sell unless it is out of convenience.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:15 PM   #5
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Very interested... how much for it with the 327?
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:04 AM   #6
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Bump to the top. Note that the car is now in Springfield, VA. I drove it 3 hrs from Philly, PA with zero problems. Car drives great. It is currently titled, registered, and insured. Ready for you to drive home!
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:13 AM   #7
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no pics of the motor? no pics of the interior ? And white best paint to hint body work and the cheapest color to spray HUMMMMMMM................. Wondering why??? Did you do the body work or all pro done ? and was the car orginal white or another color?
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:21 AM   #8
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Thanks for the snide comments. I did the body work. There is nothing to hide in the body work, it is better than you'd get from a pro shop doing a production quality job. The paint is not as good as the body work but it is as-stated. It's good driver quality paint. The car was originally white and the color is very close to original, genius. Ever heard of keeping the original color?

This is a frieking $1800 car, not a $20,000 car (it is a 3rd gen after all). It is very nice for what it is. I have engine bay and interior pics but won't waste my time on tire kickers like yourself.

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Old 01-08-2007, 09:38 AM   #9
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Here are some pics of the body after I had just sprayed it (before the ground effects and trim were installed), still in the process of removing window masking paper. Gives a better picture of the paint texture/gloss than the outdoor pics.
http://members.aol.com/bondospecial/...m/painted2.jpg
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And here's a couple pics under flourescent lighting after I had just finished installing the ground effects:
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Old 01-09-2007, 04:19 AM   #10
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I do body work for a living GENIUS,

2 common reason to change the body color to white
A hind bad body work
B white is the cheapest to buy at the paint store.

Do you do body work for a living if not then I would not call the body work better than a pro shop, BUt then I have seen some new guys at my shop that could not fix a straight panel to shave the ***. So you just picked a white out of a book? You did not even get the same color code white ?
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:36 AM   #11
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If you do collision work, I'd say you are the least qualified to be doing a good paint job. Collision work is about doing a very mediocre paint job at a very high output rate, that is just good enough that the average, uninformed consumer won't bring it back. I have enough experience with collision body shops to know this. I have seen better paint jobs come out of skilled amateur's garages and home made paint booths than I have seen come out of a lot of "pro" body shops. A monkey can wield a d/a sander, who cares.

I'm glad you are cynical about the quality of my hard work. I'm not going to argue about this, get a life. We all know a great paint job in today's world costs $10k or more. Hence this not being a $10k car. The body work is very straight and the paint is presentable. I think I'd be better off donating this car to charity than having to field rude remarks from "experts" who don't have anything better to do than hassle me over what condition they think a 24 year old car that GM made millions of is in. I don't care!

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Old 01-09-2007, 11:39 AM   #12
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I just do not think that it is the nicest 3rd gen? Yes i see you point , but you still have not put up any pics of the interior or or the engine bay. And as soon as I do I will saw the guy at work that is very interest in your car, but he wants to know if the interior is as good looking as the exterior
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:59 AM   #13
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Notice the title, nicest third gen you can buy for $1800. $1800 does not usually buy very much car. It's a great driver for that kinda money.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:59 PM   #14
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I'm waiting to see he interior and engine bay myself. It says rebuilt 305. Considering you are 2 hours away do you do any side work rebuilding 305"s.
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Wow..The guy is only asking $1800 for what looks to be like a very nice car and your giving him a hard time.Geez..

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Old 01-10-2007, 06:41 AM   #16
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Mitsumark, tell me about it. I just sold a $17,000 car for zero hassle, and then people give me such a hard time about a cheap car. People want to pick and choose how little they can spend and how much they can get. Rideon, I am not a machine shop. I do engine rebuilds for myself and friends but all of the shop work has to be done elsewhere. I PM'ed you about an engine I may have for you. I am going to look for interior pics I should have on my laptop. I'm not hurting to sell this car anymore due to lack of storage space, I moved it somewhere I have enough parking space and I don't need the money. If someone is really interested I will still accomodate their interest.

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Old 01-10-2007, 08:23 AM   #17
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yeah $1800 buck is a cheap. From what we see of the pics, the car looks great. Its funny how many perfectionist we have in the world. Although I learned alot from this post, when I sell my car I'm not going to mention I changed my own oil, due to the fact to someone asking me if I'm Jiffy Lube certified..
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:54 AM   #18
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But the funny thing is that you would do a better job than Jiffy Lube. Being a perfectionist is fine, but be willing to pay for it. I just bought a used car that I paid $21,000 for. I expected that it would be near brand new perfect at that price, and it is.
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Yea I bought the original transmission that was in this car, and saw this car before anything was done to it. First off, it was a plain jane firebird that didn't look very nice, but did not have any body problems. It was NOT hit in any area of the body, and there was very minimal to no rust that I saw, and this was before anything was done to the car. He made this car rock compared to the original status. I am half considering purchasing this car, just because I know that it was solid before he made it look this nice. And honestly those comments were out of line, and if you want to ask someone those questions in that way, at least do it in a PM so you don't look like such an ***.
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Bump. Lots of views and no questions? The car is available for viewing if you let me know, I can have my friend who is local to where it is garaged show it. I will answer questions and I don't bite, I swear! I do have to sell this car fast if I am to sell it, otherwise I will go through the hassle of reregistering and transporting it from PA to VA, and then garage it here.
I thin that car looks GREAT ! Though Iwould like to see the interior. Can ya post pics to show us? I would buy it if I was looking for another one.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:34 PM   #21
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Here are some underhood pics I just froze my butt off to take:

http://members.aol.com/bondospecial/...underhood1.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bondospecial/...underhood2.jpg

Every single piece of factory emissions equipment and computer controlled equipment is 100% functional. The car runs with no check engine lights and will pass the emissions sniffer test. This isn't your typical tampered with F body where someone threw out all the emissions equipment because they thought it would make their 305 faster. When I did the V8 conversion I made sure that every single emissions device was accounted for and functioning. The ECU harness had the appropriate pins added for V8 specific parts (although 95% of the wiring V6 to V8 was the same, I had to add only the following pins/wiring: VSS, 4th gear switch, TCC output, TCC brake switch, and auto shifter park/neutral switch). All of the multi-piece plastic under-car air dam parts are intact and in great shape. I had to get replacements for these, which are typically missing on most 3rd gens because they crack.

Too dark and too cold to take interior pics, I will try to get those up tomorrow night.

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Old 01-21-2007, 02:05 PM   #22
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The car is no longer available for sale. Despite all the idiots I had to deal with, I got my asking price.
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Glad you got what you wanted. I know what it is like having a car that you are trying to sell cheap and having people being a jerk about every little thing. Just because you were selling it cheap doesn't mean you were trying to hide anything. Some people I guess don't anything better to do.
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After seeing those engine bay pics, That about the wrost paint job I seen, That sure id a lot of OVER SPRAY on the res bottle, and I would hate to see what the rest of the jams look like. So back to what I orgonal said that is not PRO paint job.
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Dude, go away. The only thing I claimed was done comparable to a pro shop was the body work. It is as-stated in the description that the paint job was amateur. Go to hell.
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I did the body work. There is nothing to hide in the body work, it is better than you'd get from a pro shop doing a production quality job.

THis is your own reply, This paint job is better then what you get from a pro shop, My a s s !!! Learn how to mask a car up, or better take the the car to a true body shop.
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After seeing those engine bay pics, That about the wrost paint job I seen, That sure id a lot of OVER SPRAY on the res bottle, and I would hate to see what the rest of the jams look like. So back to what I orgonal said that is not PRO paint job.

dude get out of his thread with your nonsense...its a 1800 dollar car!!!! not a show car or anything else.... its a budget car brought up to a good condition before sale.... a great deal for that money. you simply wont find many thirdgens of that price in as good condition/quality as that one is. I would be proud to have it as a project base.

Congrats on the sale man!
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Old 01-21-2007, 05:54 PM   #28
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let's see , I bought my 92 camaro For 1000.00 dollars and that had a better garage paint job then what he gave that car. I feel sorry for the person he sold the car too. it will take some serious work to get all that over spray off.
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Old 01-21-2007, 05:58 PM   #29
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wow...I can't believe the B.S. in this thread over an $1800 car...the car looks great for the money and is sold leave it alone